Wednesday 21 September: The country has come together – and now it needs to stay together

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718 thoughts on “Wednesday 21 September: The country has come together – and now it needs to stay together

  1. The country has come together – and now it needs to stay together

    Well apart from Leicester and Birmingham and London

    1. The recent waves of immigrants have arrived in such numbers that there is no desire or necessity to integrate into British society. They therefore hang on to their native culture, even to second generation and beyond. Many, if not most, do not regard themselves as British. With an attitude like this, there can be no unity.

      1. There will be civil war when their numbers reach critical mass. We are seeing that on a smaller scale right now.

          1. Long ago, I saved money with the B&B for seven years. When I applied for a mortgage, they told me that their annual allocation “had been allocated”. However, John Rutherford, the Scottish stand-off, had just gone into the mortgage business and I got one from him.

  2. 356323+ up ticks,

    Morning Each,

    Wednesday 21 September: The country has come together – and now it needs to stay together

    As a total, wishful thinking methinks, the last time the peoples came together for a good honest reason was the referendum then promptly returned to supporting the very same parties that made it a dire necessity to have a referendum initially.

    Start to face facts time for many, harvest time is upon us, so areaping we must go.

    https://twitter.com/AgainBraine/status/1572350236428996608?s=20&t=FtczfFLhh6t-dFChTrrORw

  3. Truss’s challenge: Tackle the bloated and failing public sector. 21 September 2022.

    I have argued that the challenges facing this country go well beyond the economic, and perhaps the key is to control the runaway state that, despite accounting for almost half the entire economy and regulating into every nook and cranny of life, is generally unbelievably incompetent in what it does. In almost all respects, everything the State touches falters quickly into failure, overspend, regulatory slight and queues.

    A good government will not only cut the scope of the state but markedly increase the bang for the buck in terms of both service and outcome. In today’s Britain such a task is urgent given the chronic productivity and service failure offered currently.

    There is not the remotest chance of Truss cutting the Public Service Sector. In fairness no government could do this since they are part and parcel of this system. The very word “Cut” is inadequate for the measures needed. What is required is an earthquake that swallows 80% of the totally useless bureaucracy that sucks the lifeblood out of innovation and experiment in the UK. Only complete collapse can bring this about. One suspects that rather than putting this off Truss’s measures will actually accelerate this process. Hers is the last throw of the Neoliberal Dice before the toxic chickens that the Elites have hatched over the last twenty years finally come to the abattoir!

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/our-public-sector-numbers-are-out-of-control/

    1. One has to wonder why taxes have gone up since the time of Mrs Thatcher. Having sold off all nationalised assets, one would have thought that theState would have needed less money, given the annual reduction of defence spending?

    1. Depending on the subject of Dr. Julia’s qualification, maybe vested interests enter the equation.

      1. We teach all our kids, ad infinitum and ad nauseam, about the evils of Na ism and proclaim Never again”. And then we watch as Hi ler’s thugs’ tactics are replicated in front of our noses, supported by those who think they are “on the right side of history” and who don’t even realise that 80 years ago, they would have be the ones doing the beating up, book burning and gassing. You really couldn’t make it up.

        1. Most people have learned nothing. If it doesn’t have a sw as tika on it, they don’t recognise it for what it is.

  4. I think Ms Bedford got her envelopes mixed up. This was meant for the DVLA shurely.

    […]
    I attended Specsavers, where I had my eyes tested by a young man who had completed his training four months earlier. His opinion was accepted by the DVLA and my licence renewed.

    Interestingly, however, the opinion of my cataract surgeon (a professor with more than 35 years’ experience in eye surgery), who stated that I was fit to drive, was not considered acceptable. Is there an explanation?
    Jennie Bedford

    The complaints dept probably got her DT voucher payments or something.

  5. SIR – Our dear Queen dies and, in the space of less than two weeks, world leaders have attended a stunning state funeral and more than a quarter of a million mourners have united in a queue to pay their respects.

    Compare this with the two months it took the Conservative Party to choose a new leader (with much in-fighting along the way), while the economy disintegrated.

    Roger Seymour
    Ashtead, Surrey

    Fair point!

  6. 356323+ up ticks,

    Q,
    Who stood the sentries down initially
    A,
    anthony charlie lynton ….. (lab)
    Q,
    What in time did the wretch cameron do in reply.
    A,
    He pledged to control the incoming numbers & promptly increased them ( tory)

    The clear to see coalition was formed and as dangerously dire as it was, has found favour with the electorate majority for decades.

    We are now currently, and have been for a number of years suffering the consequences
    seemingly ALL on account of a counterfeit party NAMES.

  7. What is Hindu nationalism and how does it relate to trouble in Leicester? 21 september 2022.

    Hindutva is the predominant form in India and has been associated with rightwing extremism.

    The Hindu nationalist ideology has also recently begun to rear its head in the UK. In November 2019, British Hindus were targeted with WhatsApp messages, which included videos by far-right anti-Muslim activists.

    Over the weekend, violence erupted in Leicester between Hindu and Muslim communities, which began after a group of Hindu men marched through the streets of the city shouting “jai shri Ram”, a Hindu greeting that has become a clarion call for Hindutva mobs and perpetrators of anti-Muslim violence in India. The situation quickly escalated, with a Hindu flag burned and another torn down from outside a temple.

    The Guardian cannot bear the thought that even an Ancient Enmity born before the first Englishman set foot in India can be other than an evil plot by the Far right! Lol.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/20/what-is-hindu-nationalism-and-who-are-the-rss

      1. It’s incredibly patronising and racist, suggesting that hindus are weak-minded tools of white far right wingers.

    1. So let’s get this straight. According to the Guardian, muslims attacked a Hindu temple because

      1. Evil Far Right White People
      2. Hindus
      3. Nothing else to see here, move on…

    2. Well, didn’t we invent that Satanic game – Cricket, so surely must be responsible for all the unrest. I seem to recall the game was exported to Afghanistan and look where that got us, the Russians and the US!

  8. SIR – I recently visited my mother in Yorkshire and arranged her Covid booster for her using the telephone booking service. I eventually spoke to an operator and an appointment was made at a local pharmacy for the day of the late Queen’s funeral.

    On phoning the pharmacy to check it was open, I was told that nobody would be there as it was a bank holiday, so I rang the booking service back, only to find that the system was down.

    Looking online, I found there was a drop-in booster service at the Great Yorkshire Showground, and we were in, jabbed and out within an hour.

    Meanwhile I had two texts from the NHS – one confirming that vaccination centres would be open on the bank holiday (they weren’t) and a second confirming my mother’s now redundant pharmacy appointment.

    Mark Calvin
    Tretower, Brecknockshire

    I think, Mr Calvin, that this was nature’s way of trying to keep you away from a booster!

  9. Our new PM, Ms Truss, is off to the US to visit President Biden. The purported reason for the visit is to discuss trade. One has to wonder why President Biden did not simply stay on here for a few days. The real reason is that Biden is going to lecture Truss about Northern Ireland. No doubt he will threaten the UK in the same way that Senator George Mitchell did, with sending in US “peacekeepers” willy nilly.
    Biden will no doubt also demand more support for the Ukraine.
    What a willing lapdog our new Prime Minister is.

      1. As for trade, I can think of nothing that is manufactured in the United States that I would wish to buy*. I only buy orange juice and sweetcorn which may originate there.

        * A small private jet might be nice, if I were immensely rich. I’d also make an exception for a Jeep Wrangler.

      1. Another of the many organisations we’d be well out of. Membership costs us £125m a year*, and I guarantee that not one member would come to our aid any more than the League of Nations helped Abyssinia.

        *Not including foreign aid contributions (billions).

      2. Thanks for that. I have looked it up. According to AOL, MsTruss is going to say, amongst other things, ““The story of 2022 could have been that of an authoritarian state rolling its tanks over the border of a peaceful neighbor and subjugating its people. Instead, it is the story of freedom fighting back. … But this must not be a one-off.”

        Lord save us, if that is the style of diplomacy she intends to adopt. Has no one advised her that there are some parties who might take her at face value?

    1. Biden is an arch socialist who is intent on creating a planned economy. This is why the US is in such doodoo.

  10. SIR – I used to get very bored with people extolling the virtues of their Aga cookers (Letters, September 19).

    Then, when I remarried, my new husband said we should have one. I put an advertisement in a local magazine for an Aga that did not use solid fuel. The next morning I had a phone call from a man with such an Aga. It cost little, but I had to pay for its removal and re-installation.

    It was a very old, former solid-fuel Aga that had been converted to oil. I am now very boring, as it is wonderful. Recently I upgraded it to electric – very successfully, despite its 50-plus years of age – and all four ovens still work beautifully.

    Penelope Fairclough
    Tattenhall, Cheshire

    I can’t think how Mrs H J and I have survived with just one oven at the previous house and one and a half at our present home. Are we doing something wrong? Should we feel deprived in view of all this smugness??

    1. Morning all.

      Don’t worry, Hugh, it just means they will have four ovens that don’t work when the leccy is switched off!

      1. Agreed, I believe Mrs Fairclough was so busy virtue-signaling that she failed to notice the massive hole in her future heating/cooking plan.

  11. An interesting BTL comment…there is hope yet!

    Colin Harrow
    2 HRS AGO
    The best story to come out of America on the Queen’s funeral was the total flattening of Afro- American CNN TV anchor Don Lemon after he raised the subject of reparations being paid by Britain for the slave trade with US Royal commentator Hilary Fordwich.
    Lemon had asked her why the descendants of slaves were “suffering” when the UK and the Royal Family have all that “vast wealth?” and he visibly brightened when she initially responded by saying she thought he was “totally right about reparations” if people wanted them.
    But he paled somewhat, if that’s the right word, when she went on to add after pointing out that Britain was the first nation to abolish slavery, that if people wanted reparations they needed “to go back to the beginning of the supply chain.”
    And where that was she added, immediately providing the historically accurate but far from “woke” answer, was with “ the African kings who were rounding up their own people and had them waiting on the beaches in cages.”
    She then rubbed salt in the wound by suggesting families of the 2,000 British navy men who died on the high seas trying to stop slavery “should receive something too.” This response immediately silenced Lemon who abruptly concluded the interview.
    Following on from the vile comments made about the Queen by certain Afro -American academics and commentators in recent days this was a wonderful and honest rebuttal by Ms. Fordwich of which, no doubt, Queen Elizabeth herself would have approved.
    (You can find,this interview on YouTube and for confirmation of Ms.Fordwich’s comments you might like the following link:)
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-53444752 .

    1. He was let off lightly. It was in 2015 that the UK finally paid off the debt that we incurred carrying all that out, including compensation to slave owners. Slaves were lucky to get it, the alternative was death or castration (if sent North). (Or worse, working a 14 hour day in a cotton mill in Northern England, tee-hee.) The number of sailors of the Preventive Squadron who died was around 17,000*.

      “Sweet Water and Bitter” by Sian Rees

      1. I’d also recommend “Royal Navy Versus the Slave Traders – enforcing abolition at sea 1808 – 1898” by Bernard Edwards

      2. Don’t forget the late campaigns off the East of Africa in the Indian Ocean specifically targeted against the surviving Arab Slave Trade where a several times Great-uncle of mine lost his life, apparently boarding a slaving dhow.

  12. SIR – Four years ago, my family met Swedish friends in Lubeck,

    northern Germany, for a holiday. For spending money we took euros, as

    well as our usual payment cards. Sweden had effectively become cashless a

    few months previously, and the Swedes had only cards with them.

    Over the four days we spent together, our euros paid for the group

    several times in cafés and restaurants, most of which seemed not to

    trust card payments. Cash was in use everywhere we went, which was very

    irritating for the progressive Swedes.

    Chris Andrews

    Doncaster, South Yorkshire

    This letter explains why when i went to my bank yesterday there were no tellers. This is being forced on us.

    Which countries are going cashless?

    Norway, Finland and New Zealand
    are the three countries closest to becoming cashless societies,
    followed by Hong Kong, Sweden, Denmark, Switzerland, the UK, Singapore
    and the Netherlands, according to research published by Merchant
    Machine.16 Aug 2022

    As with the samey response to covid globally we are now being forced to go cashless. We are not being ruled by our government. We are ruled by globalists.

      1. I made number of business visits to Germany in the late 80s/early 90s. It was always cash. I remember a German customer taking out his wallet and it was stuffed with 500 mark notes.

        1. My son was working at a McDonalds in Germany for a few months only a couple of years ago, and most people were still paying in cash, he said.

    1. I don’t go to businesses that don’t accept cash. It is a bit hardline, but so is removing cash.
      I hope that the change of coins might spark a revival among younger people of interest in cash. Problem is, most of them are too darn lazy to figure out what to do with change. They’ll never know the joy of finding a fiver down the side of the sofa cushions…

      1. Speaking of coins, if anyone is interested in collectables, apparently the Royal Mint had already struck and were already selling 2023 coins with HM on the back.
        There are photos online, so some people have already had deliveries, not sure if they’re still being sold or not.

        1. Why on earth did they make those? There can’t be a shortage of coins in circulation, given that so many people don’t use them now (where are they all btw). Brenda was hardly likely to live many more years – they should have been making Charles’ coins ready for circulation.

          1. Not normal coins – the ones I saw were I think 2oz pure silver Tudor Beasts ones.

            They should at least have the portrait of Charles ready, so they can start stamping blanks with it.
            Charles coins could be very rare in the future, as the CBDC is ready to launch, they are just waiting for the hyper-inflation to collapse the pound, which is likely to kick off within the next twelve months at some point.
            It’s also possible that Charles won’t outlast the great reset attempt because he’s so personally involved in it, so his reign may be quite short.

          2. A lot of them are in my purse 🙂 I prefer to use cash (although I’ve made a lot of card purchases today).

          1. Love that design, but don’t want to give my details to the website. The mint seems to be out, though they have a couple of other free commemorative things. I am a bit of a magpie for shiny stuff, have to hold myself back!

    2. Good morning Phizz, and other Nottlers.
      I chuckled at the idea of the ‘Swedish friends’ being unable to pay by using a card, because Swedes and Aberdonians are rumoured to have something in common.

    3. Utter bollocks! If you believe that shit you’ll believe anything. Sweden is NOT a “cashless” society! Cash is freely obtainable and still frequently used. Yes, card transactions are the most popular way of using money here (no one has used cheques for 30 years) but I can obtain and use cash anywhere I wish. I have also visited Lübeck and had no trouble, whatsoever, buying anything with my card.

      1. Merchant Machine also mentions that the only people using cash are either for small purchases or the elderly. That’s you that is… :@)

        1. I live in the far south of Sweden but that doesn’t make me a southerner! I don’t spend money because being a skinflint comes naturally to me.

          1. It does make you a Southerner !!! :@)
            Nothing wrong with being careful about money but good service should always be rewarded.

          2. If I visited you, would you introduce me to your friends and neighbours as a fellow southerner? Or would I still be some Northern Monkey who escaped?

          3. My neighbours and friends are mostly escapees from the North. Who wouldn’t want to spend their retirement in a bungalow on the South coast of England. Glorious weather and the Sea of course.

            But, yes, if you were to honour me with your presence i would still introduce you as a Northern Monkey. :@)

    1. Did they jump the queue? If they did, they stand up for the consequences of that. It’s bad form. Likely expedient for the cameras but bad form. They sell an image of the ‘everyman’. This shows they’re not – and they’re not.

      If folk somehow think they should have – given the choice, would they not have? Of course they would. Was it wrong? That 2 people went ahead of thousands of others? No. Does it show a hypocrisy? Of course. Welcome to telly land. The whole thing is a fantasy.

      1. Of course they jumped the queue. That’s why they are bleating – because they have been caught out.

        1. They were caught out and then made to look worse as that blackguard Beckham stood in line with the rest of the queue, apparently saying it was how his grandfather would have behaved.

          Schofield really hasn’t mastered the art of timing. He ‘bravely’ came out – i.e. jumped the gun before his boyfriend could spill the beans to the meeja – just as the country went into lockdown. Now he and Miss Willowbooby have been shown up and have given the lamest of ‘working’ excuses of why they did so.

          The Domino’s jest will not be the last. I’ve already seen one showing the not so dynamic duo sat in wheelchairs as they intend to jump the queues at Alton Towers.

      2. Of course they jumped the queue. That’s why they are bleating – because they have been caught out.

  13. Good Moaning.
    Nasty little nip in the air.
    (Hope PayPal don’t read this; they could close my non-existent account.)

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/09/20/paypal-shuts-accounts-free-speech-union/

    ” PayPal shuts down accounts of Free Speech Union

    Decision by US payments company was a ‘sinister form of cancel culture’, claims founder of the lobby group

    20 September 2022 • 9:27pm

    PayPal has shut down the account of the Free Speech Union, an organisation which defends gender-critical academics and people who have lost work for expressing opinions.

    The US payments company shut down the accounts of the Free Speech Union, its founder Toby Young, and his opinion and news website the Daily Sceptic with no clear explanation last week, The Telegraph can reveal.

    Mr Young said he suspected the action was driven by political motives and was a “sinister form of cancel culture”.

    He was told last week that PayPal was shutting down the accounts because of violations of PayPal’s “Acceptable Use Policy”. He is unaware of any possible ways he or the organisation could have breached the policy, which lists banned transactions such as those which are illegal or support ponzi schemes.

    A spokesman for PayPal said it could not comment on individual customers, but said that PayPal “regularly assesses activity against our long-standing Acceptable Use Policy and will discontinue our relationship with account holders who are found to violate our policies”.

    He added: “Achieving the balance between protecting the ideals of tolerance, diversity and respect for people of all backgrounds and upholding the values of free expression and open dialogue can be difficult, but we do our best to achieve it.”

    The Free Speech Union, founded by Mr Young two years ago, has recently called on the Government to ensure children aren’t politically indoctrinated at school, citing the teaching of “radical gender theory” through Drag queen story hours in schools.

    The organisation has helped to defend people who claim they have lost work for expressing opinions, for example Gillian Philip, the author who said her contract was terminated because she stood up for JK Rowling on Twitter amid a row over transgender rights. It has also challenged universities that have “no-platformed” gender-critical academics.

    Mr Young said: “If PayPal had shut down just one of these accounts it’s conceivable it could be because it had violated the company’s Acceptable Use Policy. But it closed all three accounts within minutes of each other, suggesting there’s a more sinister reason.

    “I suspect it’s because in reality PayPal doesn’t value free expression and open dialogue or the people and organisations that stand up for those principles.”

    Trans rights activists

    He said he suspected the closure of the Free Speech Union’s account could have been a response to complaints from trans rights activists.

    Earlier this year, PayPal shut down the account of Colin Wright, an American evolutionary biologist, for unclear reasons, after he received a backlash from activists over his arguments that biological sex is real and there are only two sexes.

    PayPal also reportedly suspended the accounts of two anti-war US media organisations, Consortium News and Mint Press, without a clear explanation.

    The move by PayPal to shut down the Free Speech Union’s account has caused a significant challenge for the organisation because about a third of its 9,500 members have their recurring membership fees processed by PayPal.

    The union charges members £2.49 a month and accepts donations.

    Mr Young said: “Withdrawing financial services from dissidents and non-conformists and those who dare to defend them is the new frontline in the ongoing war against free speech.

    “The Free Speech Union will be lobbying the Government to put new laws in to prevent companies like PayPal demonetising organisations and individuals because their employees disapprove of their views.” “

    1. There is a group of hardcore trans activists who are nasty little fascists that want to club all opposition to their ideas to death. Not all trans people are the same, but there’s an element that came out of left wing political groups.

    2. They didn’t like what he said, so want to cut off funding. It’s fecking tiresome now. Sue them.

      1. That the school allowed this is an abomination. That we have become so afraid of litigation in the face of common sense is idiotic.

        That a teacher considered this acceptable is moronic.

        We had a few girls in our CDT classes. They were instructed to tie their hair back and to wear suitable clothing and aprons, tied securely. That this did wonders for Helen Taggart’s (yep, I and all others of 7a remember her) bust was a side issue. It’s plain safety.

        1. I agree. No way is this man genuinely trying to pass as a woman, he is just taking the piss at the children’s expense. I thought this photo was a hoax when I first saw it, but apparently it’s genuine.

  14. I have now emailed the CEO of FedEx UK, whose team have promised to attempt delivery again today, when we have appointments to attend, to tell him how unhappy I am with his firm. I wonder if I’ll get a reply? We have wasted 3 days waiting for this delivery!

    1. I messaged Evri to say that as they didn’t provide a tracking number their every single method of communication blocked me from speaking to them to get a tracking number.

      I also asked Amazon to ask the Turkish delivery driver to not leave expensive hardware right outside the front door, but to leave it with a neighbour. Then someone said they were paid peanuts per delivery. Which ponders a priority service on top of prime. I’d happily pay a couple of quid more on a £70 unit to get it delivered by someone who waited for me to answer the door/delivered during working hours.

      1. A good point – chatting to one of our much more reliable drivers it seems that to get the peanuts they have to work an almost impossible schedule. I often see notifications along the lines of “your driver is currently making delivery 12 of 114; you are number 78” – simple maths and a map suggest that will be almost impossible to achieve.

        1. I was responsible for deliveries to trade customers in the South of England. The company decided to make a special offer to shareholders of a case of wine. As all the shareholders were private individuals the deliveries were to private addresses. I took a delivery van out a couple of times to assess what was going on. Many of the deliveries were to roads where there were no numbers and no names visible from the road as the houses were well set back in big gardens. It was a nightmare. I therefore decided to outsource the whole exercise to a courier business, and save my drivers going nuts.

          1. We are in a rather large postcode area, with house names very much more common than numbers – there is also some “doubling up” of names, which doesn’t help. However, in our case, we are right on the road and the house name is carved into a stone that forms part of the wall by the front door – in big letters too! Being so accessible also means we often get asked for help by delivery drivers!

  15. 356323+ up ticks,

    Does this chap question tainted angels future actions ?

    Gerard Batten
    @gjb2021
    ·
    22h
    Charles III is a puppet of the World Economic Forum. He will run Britain’s Constitutional Monarchy into the ground.

    He will enjoy a honeymoon period due to the memory of Elizabeth II, but when the energy & food shortages kick in, & economic & financial crises hit, people will have to decide if they buy the WEF Corporate World Fascism solution or not.

    https://gettr.com/post/p1rho6f1b87

    Charles has nailed his colours to their mast.

    1. Loads of people will listen to him until the last, and follow him into slavery because he’s royal.

      1. 356323+ up ticks,

        Morning BB2,
        I do believe in the monarchy but that is does not mean they are immune from being questioned on their actions.
        I agree peoples will follow without questioning the final destination even when that becomes glaringly obvious.

        On par with the majority of voters.

  16. ‘Morning All

    Funny Old World

    Peaceful Free Speech protests,Antilockdown protests Police in full riot gear going hard with batons and pepper spray,Police Horses and long batons deployed

    Moslem and Hindu mass riots,arson and violence??

    Not so much………..

    https://twitter.com/Wayne57072607/status/1572313342919966720

    https://twitter.com/petersingh206/status/1572302165397610496

    https://twitter.com/MartinDaubney/status/1572321590188331008
    TBH I have no idea of the rights and wrongs of these disputes as the MSM info is pretty sparse but one thing has become clear.Violent Moslem mobs are positioning themselves as the victims here…….
    Again

      1. A couple of days ago I looked at the top senior ranks in the Leicestershire Constabulary i.e. CC, DCC and one ACC: all hideously white.

    1. While I agree, Billy, that those trainers this clownish couple are wearing look silly; I wear trainers exclusively, these days, due to my incapability to wear other footwear (except slippers). This morning I posted this comment on that very thread:

      “I wear pure black, Reebok training shoes exclusively, no matter my attire (I have six pairs, all polished with Kiwi). A combination of congenital fallen arches (flat feet) and painful arthritis means that I can wear no other style, nor manufacture, of shoe.”

        1. Nah. You’d have to look clearly at my footwear to see that there are, in fact, trainers. All black with no white bits are logos.

        1. I’ve not found any other make that has flat soles inside. All others, apart from Reebok, have shaped soles which give me intense pain.

      1. I have a nice pair of pale green Vans, one for each foot. It’s my sole concession to green-ness.

      2. I have a nice pair of pale green Vans, one for each foot. It’s my sole concession to green-ness.

    2. Maman is at the age where vertiginous stilettos are uncomfortable and serious painkillers are needed to walk any distance..

    3. This holding of hands in public for the cameras of those in the public eye is very infra dig. As well as Macron and Brigitte, Harry and Migraine, and Biden and his wife, Johnson and his squeeze are guilty. I am not au fait with the etiquette but are homosexual couples meant to hold hands in public?

  17. Here is my response that I have just posted on True Belle’s thread, of yesterday, on a video of police officers (from all over the UK, incidentally) who were on duty at Monday’s State Funeral of H.M. The Queen:

    1919 was the only occasion that the British police ever went on strike, and it lasted just 24 hours. During that time serious and widespread rioting and looting took place in many English cities. The 1919 Police Act was hurriedly brought in and it prevented, by law, police officers from taking industrial action ever again.

    The facts are clear: remove law enforcement and anarchy takes over with immediate effect.

    1. In Britain, we are just cruising on the expectation of law and order. There is no meaningful police support in rural areas.
      I hope everyone who lives in a rural area has their house secure and anything worth stealing, including firewood out of sight.

      1. The last time we saw a police officer here was in 2013, when my OH looked out of the window and saw our next door neighbour’s ladder (which he uses as well) being stolen. The woman police officer came round that afternoon, but it was beginning to snow a little, so she rushed off in case she got stuck here on the hill. Later on I spotted the ladder abandoned on a grassy patch about a mile away, so Kevin, our neighbour, was able to retrieve it.

        1. Long retired I was standing in the street outside my house, sometime in the early 2000s, when I saw a uniformed police officer walking down the street (in Norfolk). I simply stood there staring at him with open mouth. He saw me and said, “Good morning.” I told him that I was in shock since I had not see his like all the time I had lived there. We had a short chat, about this and that, and I told him that he could call at my house for a cuppa any time he was on duty.

          I never saw him, nor any of his colleagues, again!

          1. The ladder incident was amazing beccause the police actually did come, altough they did nothing else. The last time before that incident was in January 1997, when a couple of police came round to tell us there had been some cat burglary incidents and could they use our house as a stake out – we weren’t keen but reluctantly agreed. We heard no more about it. They were in uniform, so appeared to be genuine.

          2. A company in Reading was raided. They left with four switching boards worth £500,000 each. The gang were subsequently arrested. They had all the uniforms and general Police regalia. Plus dogs !

            What the gang didn’t know was when the boards were installed and activated they sent a message home from embedded chips.

            The businesses in India pleaded innocence and said they bought the boards through a broker.

            Con artists can be very convincing.

          3. There are police cars speeding up and down Shepherds Bush Road every day with their sirens blasting. Why, heaven only knows. Being an old cynic, I aslways assume that if they’re heading towards Shepherds Bush, there must have been a crime commited in Hammersmith and vice versa.

          4. They will be telling other traffic to get out of the way because they are late for their breakfast/dinner/tea/supper. 🤣

          5. The tea spot used to be important, but nowadays I see policemen parking at supermarkets to buy junk food.

          6. I am a creature of my time. I simply could not do the job today. I would be sacked in a trice for insubordination: a concept that would have been utterly alien to me back in the 1970s and 1980s when discipline was still the bond.

      2. I was quite shocked today; I had to go into town to get some supplies to redecorate and I was followed up the arcade by a pair of PCSOs!

        1. Gosh, that Furedi article is depressing, because true!

          “Conservative and neoliberal critics of the cultural values transmitted through identity politics deceived themselves into believing they had matters under control during the Reagan-Thatcher years. Yet it was precisely during this era when right-wing governments were in power that adversary culture gained ascendancy. ”

          Britain will have to forge a new identity. It’ll either be majority (i.e. Celtic/Anglo Saxon) like the old one, which will be joined by everyone who integrates, or it’ll be islamic.

          1. Anybody who rocks up here can be British these days – I prefer to say I’m English. As were all my ancestors except the Welsh ones.

      1. Apparently when Kensington Palace was used to accommodate surplus female Royals, Prince Charles called it “the Aunt Heap”.

  18. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4ef59caec0d3d185938154a5f708722f7d5b17e40979e6e89fb231b056ace07c.png I was given a teddy bear (“Cuthbert”) 40 years ago, by my then wife, who brought it home to me from a collection that had been given to the children in-patients at Sheffield Children’s Hospital, where she worked was a radiographer.

    The reason I was given it was that it had been languishing there for well over three years since the patients and, in particular, their parents, had deemed “Cuthbert” to be far too ugly to be considered as a “suitable” teddy bear. His crime was that he looks like a real bear, replete with muzzle-shaped nose and face. The only teddy bears deemed acceptable for the children (and their parents) were gruesome, flat-faced, anthropomorphic objects that more closely resembled human babies than proper bears.

    No one wanted “ugly” Cuthbert, so I gave him a home and he has put a smile on my face for decades.

      1. I am being ruthless (for me) in disposing of books. (Getting rid of one book rips out my soul.)
        If I haven’t read it in the last 30 or 40 years, it’s unlikely I’ll re-read it in the near future. And classics come cheaply in paperbacks if the urge ever strikes.
        But …. that does not apply to my children’s books. Will I ever read The Family From One End Street again? Eagle Annual 1956? Jennings and Darbyshire? Ballet Shoes? And heaven knows how many pony books from the inevitable girlie stage I went through.

        1. I have just bought about a dozen books (air warfare in WW2) from a charity shop. I shall have to take a break from nottling to get through them!

        2. If you are worried about EAGLE Annual 1956, Annie, you can happy send it to the charity shop. I have a complete collection of the annuals and will gladly loan you the 1956 one should you ever wish to read it at a later date.

      1. “All your bears”? My bedroom is like a menagerie. Apart from Cuthy (bear) and Chuck (raccoon) there are two more bears, a giant panda, two koalas, a fox, a kangaroo (and its joey), a moose, a horse and three wombats.

        1. I have two bears (from my childhood), a koala (from Oz), a corgi (from HMY Britannia) and a couple of dogs (one from the USA).

    1. Didn’t have a bear: they were rare during WW2. My father was in a convoy travelling to the USA when I was born, and on his return I got a blue and white furry towelling cat that he’d bought at Sachs. I still have it, though it’s pretty bald now and a dirty grey colour: I’m pleased to say I still have my hair intact. I suppose Tibby is my equivalent to the picture in the attic.

    2. Didn’t have a bear: they were rare during WW2. My father was in a convoy travelling to the USA when I was born, and on his return I got a blue and white furry towelling cat that he’d bought at Sachs. I still have it, though it’s pretty bald now and a dirty grey colour: I’m pleased to say I still have my hair intact. I suppose Tibby is my equivalent to the picture in the attic.

    1. Do the PTB seriously expect us to respect the law?

      And if the indigenous population do not respect it then what hope is there that any of our invaders will respect it?

  19. ‘Now is the Winter of our discontent,
    Made glorious somehow by the sons of Woke’

    (With apols to William S)

    “Following Putin’s address, Russia’s minister of defense Sergei Shoigu also delivered a nationwide TV address, in which he said that the battlefield conditions in Ukraine as “difficult.”

    “We are not fighting with Ukraine, but with the collective west ” he said, noting mobilization will be gradual, not one-time. He also added more nuclear threats: “All types of arms, including the nuclear triad, are fulfilling their tasks.”

    Some more highlights from Shoigu’s address:

    Calling up the reserves adds about 300,000 men to Russia’s forces
    “These are not people who’ve never seen or heard anything about the army.”
    Students are exempt and “only 1% of mobilization potential” will be used
    Following the partial mobilization announcement, oil and gold surged.”

    1. Can anybody still doubt that Britain would have been far better off if Trump had remained president?

      And yet our MSM and many of our politicians from both sides of the House of Commons and the House of Lords were so deliberately stupid and blind that they could not – or would not – see it.

  20. Leicester violence spreads to Birmingham as 200-strong masked mob surround Hindu temple: Riot police are pelted with bottles during protest after weeks of unrest between Muslims and Hindus ‘fuelled by false claims of kidnap and mosque attacks’
    Video shows group of 200 men believed to be Muslim surround Hindu temple
    West Midlands Police were on scene in riot gear to disperse the large crowd
    It follows days of sectarian violence in Leicester where 47 people were arrested

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11234085/Leicester-violence-spreads-Birmingham-200-strong-masked-mob-surround-Hindu-temple.html

    England has relied heavily on migrants as a route to obscene profit .. cheap labour .. Britain’s multiculturism has failed .. you cannot import people to the UK with historical grievances .. and now the British taxpayer has to finance an internal Asian civil war.

    This is the result of trickle down economics .. now we have to finance the mistake all governments have made

    1. Get a secure prison with impenetrable fences around it. Arm all of the Muslims and Hindus invoved in the troubles with knives. Leave them to it.

      Pick up the debris afterwards.

        1. But the new ‘cultural homelands’ must be on unpopulated islands far from the UK’s coasts.

          (Or maybe on icebergs which will melt owing to climate change and global warming!)

    2. 47 arrested. The police should be on comedy shows. Hundreds should have been arrested. They were not. That is because the price cannot or will not do it. We abolished the Riot Act. That was a pity

    1. Amazing how people cannot see what is going on under their noses.

      By August 1066 he had assembled a force of 4,000–7,000 knights and foot soldiers, but unfavourable winds detained his transports for eight weeks. Finally, on September 27, while Harold was occupied in the north, the winds changed, and William crossed the Channel immediately.

      And today the weather still dictates when the invading army sets off from France! However the potential troops which have arrived so far this year on England’s south coat (over 30,000) far outnumber the numbers William brought with him.

    1. But the vaccines could be rather more effective if they succeeded in achieving a higher mortality rate. Bill Gates and Big Pharma are working on it.

    1. It’s probably a minority view, but I see Meghan as a bit tragic. She’s like a figure from Greek mythology who had everything in her hands, but let it slip through due to greed and lack of compassion.

      Maybe she’ll find her niche like Sarah Ferguson (reading children’s stories and writing M&B novels!), but I doubt it – she’s destined to want more than she has for the rest of her life.

      Several stories come to mind, though none is an exact parallel. Icarus, Midas, that Russian tale of the old woman in hell.

  21. No chance, Mr Johnston…

    Even Mrs Thatcher ducked radical NHS reforms. Liz Truss must be braver

    For decades the health service’s funding model has been untouchable, but soon it will become untenable

    PHILIP JOHNSTON • 20 September 2022 • 9:00pm

    We are about to learn the details of yet another attempt to get to grips with the NHS. Therese Coffey, the new Health Secretary and deputy PM, is the latest in a long line of Ministers to be handed the poisoned chalice.

    We know little as yet of what she plans beyond an ABCD of priorities denoting ambulances, backlogs, care, doctors, and dentists. (I have deliberately used the Oxford comma in the last sentence just to annoy her since she has told staff that it is strictly forbidden, which seems to be the least of her worries).

    Since this is a government in a hurry, we might expect something more than a grammar lesson or a sticking plaster taped over a gaping wound, though I wouldn’t bet on it. We have, after all, been here before. It is exactly 40 years since what was arguably one of the great missed opportunities of post-war British politics. In September 1982, the Central Policy Review Staff (CPRS), the so-called “Think Tank”, presented a report to the Cabinet proposing radical reforms of the NHS.

    They would end free universal healthcare and move to an insurance-based system of the sort that operated in many other countries. The paper spelled out the consequences: “For the majority the change would represent the abolition of the NHS. This would be immensely controversial.” You can say that again. In his memoirs, Nigel Lawson, at the time Energy Secretary, said it caused “the nearest thing to a Cabinet riot” that he could remember. Unusually in an era when leaks were far less commonplace than they are today, the report was soon in the hands of The Economist magazine, and caused consternation on publication. Even Mrs Thatcher, the Great Reformer, baulked at the backlash and felt compelled to use her speech to the Conservative Party conference in Brighton that year to declare the NHS is “safe with us”.

    In doing so she shut down any debate over how the NHS is funded, focusing attention, as it has been ever since, on how it is structured. Rather than inject private sector disciplines into the system through a vibrant social insurance market, ministers ever since have just poured money into the NHS and tried, unsuccessfully, to make it more efficient.

    We are now reaping the whirlwind of that approach. When ambulances don’t arrive for an hour to an emergency, or not at all, you have a health system that is failing at its most basic level.

    Even back in 1982, someone collapsing from a heart attack or a stroke would be in hospital pretty sharpish. The most recent NHS England figures show the average ambulance response time for what is known as a Category 2 emergency call – a stroke or heart attack – is just under an hour. Even if it turns up, problems await when it gets to the hospital. If beds are unavailable, ambulances are parked up outside the A&E with patients on board. This means they are not available for another emergency. The knock-on effect right through the system is profound. One big problem is that beds in the hospitals are taken up by many older patients who should no longer be there but there is no-one to care for them outside.

    It is hardly surprising that we now have record backlogs for treatment and excess deaths substantially above the average which have nothing to do with Covid. More people are dying early because they are not getting treated in time or their diagnoses for serious illnesses are delayed until it is too late. Consultants are reporting a growing number of patients coming to them with advanced cancers that might have been more easily treated had they been spotted sooner. The reason they aren’t is principally down to the failures of primary care.

    The system is broken from top to bottom and yet when Ms Coffey makes her statement to MPs tomorrow, will she offer anything that will make a real difference? Money is not the issue anymore. Back in 1982 the NHS was underfunded compared to other health systems but that is not the case now.

    Total current healthcare expenditure (NHS and private) in the UK in 2021 was £277 billion, equating to around £4,000 per person and accounting for 12 per cent of GDP, up from 10 per cent in 2019. Partly the increase was down to the pandemic but is not being withdrawn. Total health spending compares favourably with other EU countries which have far better outcomes than us. But most of our funding – 83 percent – is provided through taxes whereas in other countries there is a greater mix of state and private provision.

    Spending more money on the NHS might be justifiable if it produced top quality universal care. But to see it getting worse even as the funding increases is to expose the flaws at the heart of a nationalised system whose founding principle is to establish equity of access even if it means lower standards of outcomes.

    We know that messing about with the organisational structure does not work because it has been tried umpteen times since 1982. There is even another going on right now following the promulgation a few weeks ago of the Health and Care Act. This introduced integrated care boards to take statutory control over budgets and marks the biggest legislative restructure of the NHS in England for 10 years.

    It moves away from an emphasis on internal competition to a new framework that supports collaboration and provides for a “unified, national leadership”, with more powers for the Health Secretary to intervene in decisions and direct strategy. At least if they are going to be blamed for its shortcomings the Government may as well try to control it.

    But will any of this make a scrap of difference if the real problem is much more fundamental? If Ms Coffey wants to show she has a radical streak then let her reintroduce tax breaks for private medical insurance, which despite the 1982 backlash were pursued by the Thatcher government and came into force in 1990, only to be abolished by Labour in 1997. Such relief exists in other countries like Ireland which have better health outcomes than us.

    MPs always lament the politicisation of the NHS but that is a function of its failure. Rather than fixate on the free, universal delivery of an expensive but sub-standard service, the best way to remove the politics from health care is to make sure it works.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/09/20/even-mrs-thatcher-ducked-radical-nhs-reforms-liz-truss-must/

    PS The Oxford comma is less of an irritation than ‘vibrant’ and ‘parking up’…

    1. I was under the impression that the required response time for heart attack/stroke was ten minutes, if anything is to be done.

      1. The “golden hour” in emergencies, I believe. Here, waits of four hours are commonplace. People have died and a good friend nearly died.

  22. No chance, Mr Johnston…

    Even Mrs Thatcher ducked radical NHS reforms. Liz Truss must be braver

    For decades the health service’s funding model has been untouchable, but soon it will become untenable

    PHILIP JOHNSTON • 20 September 2022 • 9:00pm

    We are about to learn the details of yet another attempt to get to grips with the NHS. Therese Coffey, the new Health Secretary and deputy PM, is the latest in a long line of Ministers to be handed the poisoned chalice.

    We know little as yet of what she plans beyond an ABCD of priorities denoting ambulances, backlogs, care, doctors, and dentists. (I have deliberately used the Oxford comma in the last sentence just to annoy her since she has told staff that it is strictly forbidden, which seems to be the least of her worries).

    Since this is a government in a hurry, we might expect something more than a grammar lesson or a sticking plaster taped over a gaping wound, though I wouldn’t bet on it. We have, after all, been here before. It is exactly 40 years since what was arguably one of the great missed opportunities of post-war British politics. In September 1982, the Central Policy Review Staff (CPRS), the so-called “Think Tank”, presented a report to the Cabinet proposing radical reforms of the NHS.

    They would end free universal healthcare and move to an insurance-based system of the sort that operated in many other countries. The paper spelled out the consequences: “For the majority the change would represent the abolition of the NHS. This would be immensely controversial.” You can say that again. In his memoirs, Nigel Lawson, at the time Energy Secretary, said it caused “the nearest thing to a Cabinet riot” that he could remember. Unusually in an era when leaks were far less commonplace than they are today, the report was soon in the hands of The Economist magazine, and caused consternation on publication. Even Mrs Thatcher, the Great Reformer, baulked at the backlash and felt compelled to use her speech to the Conservative Party conference in Brighton that year to declare the NHS is “safe with us”.

    In doing so she shut down any debate over how the NHS is funded, focusing attention, as it has been ever since, on how it is structured. Rather than inject private sector disciplines into the system through a vibrant social insurance market, ministers ever since have just poured money into the NHS and tried, unsuccessfully, to make it more efficient.

    We are now reaping the whirlwind of that approach. When ambulances don’t arrive for an hour to an emergency, or not at all, you have a health system that is failing at its most basic level.

    Even back in 1982, someone collapsing from a heart attack or a stroke would be in hospital pretty sharpish. The most recent NHS England figures show the average ambulance response time for what is known as a Category 2 emergency call – a stroke or heart attack – is just under an hour. Even if it turns up, problems await when it gets to the hospital. If beds are unavailable, ambulances are parked up outside the A&E with patients on board. This means they are not available for another emergency. The knock-on effect right through the system is profound. One big problem is that beds in the hospitals are taken up by many older patients who should no longer be there but there is no-one to care for them outside.

    It is hardly surprising that we now have record backlogs for treatment and excess deaths substantially above the average which have nothing to do with Covid. More people are dying early because they are not getting treated in time or their diagnoses for serious illnesses are delayed until it is too late. Consultants are reporting a growing number of patients coming to them with advanced cancers that might have been more easily treated had they been spotted sooner. The reason they aren’t is principally down to the failures of primary care.

    The system is broken from top to bottom and yet when Ms Coffey makes her statement to MPs tomorrow, will she offer anything that will make a real difference? Money is not the issue anymore. Back in 1982 the NHS was underfunded compared to other health systems but that is not the case now.

    Total current healthcare expenditure (NHS and private) in the UK in 2021 was £277 billion, equating to around £4,000 per person and accounting for 12 per cent of GDP, up from 10 per cent in 2019. Partly the increase was down to the pandemic but is not being withdrawn. Total health spending compares favourably with other EU countries which have far better outcomes than us. But most of our funding – 83 percent – is provided through taxes whereas in other countries there is a greater mix of state and private provision.

    Spending more money on the NHS might be justifiable if it produced top quality universal care. But to see it getting worse even as the funding increases is to expose the flaws at the heart of a nationalised system whose founding principle is to establish equity of access even if it means lower standards of outcomes.

    We know that messing about with the organisational structure does not work because it has been tried umpteen times since 1982. There is even another going on right now following the promulgation a few weeks ago of the Health and Care Act. This introduced integrated care boards to take statutory control over budgets and marks the biggest legislative restructure of the NHS in England for 10 years.

    It moves away from an emphasis on internal competition to a new framework that supports collaboration and provides for a “unified, national leadership”, with more powers for the Health Secretary to intervene in decisions and direct strategy. At least if they are going to be blamed for its shortcomings the Government may as well try to control it.

    But will any of this make a scrap of difference if the real problem is much more fundamental? If Ms Coffey wants to show she has a radical streak then let her reintroduce tax breaks for private medical insurance, which despite the 1982 backlash were pursued by the Thatcher government and came into force in 1990, only to be abolished by Labour in 1997. Such relief exists in other countries like Ireland which have better health outcomes than us.

    MPs always lament the politicisation of the NHS but that is a function of its failure. Rather than fixate on the free, universal delivery of an expensive but sub-standard service, the best way to remove the politics from health care is to make sure it works.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/09/20/even-mrs-thatcher-ducked-radical-nhs-reforms-liz-truss-must/

    PS The Oxford comma is less of an irritation than ‘vibrant’ and ‘parking up’…

    1. I believe somebody wrote a book about a happy little black boy who was always smiling and tried to have it published in the hope that it would do as well as Little Black Sambo. It was rejected by the publishers because they said that its title The Adventures of Nigbert the Nog was considered to be offensive.

    2. Can the ladies in front hear him? At 32 sec the lady next in front but one assumes a strange expression, as in “I’d like to turn round to have look, but obviously cannot”.

      1. I think that ‘lady’ might be Carrion. In another shot it looked like she and the bumbling fool were very close in front of the gurning black.

          1. Yes. At about 32 seconds into the clip she tries to look behind her, without moving her head.

  23. Just had my six monthly call from the Vampire Doctor. She wants more of my blurd.

    What was interesting about the call was the last two times i was admitted to hospital (once for suspected heart attack and once where they had to keep me in over night on a potassium drip) were not in my medical records. As if it didn’t happen. It also means my GP is unaware.

    1. It didn’t happen. You imagined it.

      Maybe….

      I too gave blood. Lots of it. In many vials. And a big bladder thing. Apparently for research purposes and donation sot the anaemic folk.

      1. They took a pint every 3 or 4 weeks for 6 months to alleviate a sticky blood condition. They couldn’t use it for anyone else and incinerated it.

        1. I forget what the term is actually called. I’ve the same condition.

          You don’t want you blood lying around. What if someone were to drink it and turn into a super hero?

      1. THAT reminds me of the heart people muddling up MB’s results with a ‘retired paratrooper’.
        As we read the letter, question marks were forming already above our heads; those two words were the clincher.
        The medication was totally different and the results could literally have been fatal. And we’re assuming the wrong letters were a direct swap; imagine if there had been several faulty ones sent out. The root of the problem was a wrong case number.

        1. The wonderful computer model of the NHS. Random systems and very few can communicate with each other, more than 50 miles.

  24. There must be some scratching of heads in government today as Vlad promises nuclear war. There have been statements from ministers so as not to scare the horses but how would the West react to a tactical strike by Russia in Ukraine. Would the US reply, thus risking a nuclear retaliation on Europe. Not sure our iPhone loving snoflakes would be too happpy with the result. I dont have the answer but I dont think that Vlad worries too much about popular opinion at home. Perhaps he will just lie low until the impending financial catastrophy seriously affects westerners and their comfy lives this winter.

    1. Depends on the views of those around him. Are they still a favoured Praetorian Guard whose life style is unaffected by the war, or are they looking beyond titivating the dacha?

    1. I did wonder why someone would write such a stupid article but then I realised it was the Grauniad!

      1. It has an agenda to make a specific point on it’s own irrational terms for it’s readership who don’t want to be told it’s Pakistan’s problem, but a bunch of bleeding heart Lefty wasters looking to assuage their guilt through pomposity.

    2. A lot of the problem there was caused by lack of dredging of the river and deforestation which made the water lie on the ground instead of being absorbed by trees,

    3. Ras Koh Hills
      Chagai-I was Pakistan’s first public test of nuclear weapons.

      Chagai-I
      Country Pakistan
      Test site Ras Koh Hills, Chagai, Balochistan, Pakistan
      Period 28 May 1998
      Number of tests 5

    4. Not our carbon emissions. Not even related to carbon, either. Far more likely their building on flood plains, quarrying and industry, hydro dams and being plain ignorant of the environmental consequences of increasing their population ten times over.

    5. How convenient that someone has made up a reason why it’s our fault! I suppose it never rained in Pakistan before the internal combustion engine was invented?

      1. I am convinced that the liberal use of the cat o’ nine tails and the birch rod is an effective cure for hypocrisy.

        1. In public, on the bare backside. The humiliation should be enough but a good birching by a hefty plod should just endorse the humiliation.

  25. A lot of adverts annoy me, but at the moment one of the most annoying is for Alpro – 100% plant based “milk”. The advert makes no mention of the excessive water used in producing this “milk” or the effects on the local landscape of the large scale cultivation of the nuts. Anyway – surely you could argue that real milk is “plant based” as cows eat grass?

    1. Like many things Left, it ignores the real costs under the pretence of another issue. It’s plain hypocrisy.

    2. A former boss of mine at Aunty once argued that cows produce milk because they eat grass. She wouldn’t have it that it has anything to do with feeding their calves.

    3. This morning I bought some milk. “Whole Milk”, not skimmed, half-fat, or a nutty concoction. The label said “Suitable for Vegetarians”. I was baffled. Having now checked with Wiki, the label should maybe say, “Suitable for Lacto-Vegetarians”.
      Or maybe ‘Nutters”?

  26. Migrant gives double thumbs-up as group including babies and young children arrive on RNLI lifeboat: Asylum seekers rescued from the Channel board waiting buses in Kent – a day after 93 landed in UK
    Groups of young men, women and children were pictured being transported to land on Kent coast by the RNLI
    Wrapped in blankets, they were ushered out of the water and walked up the beach before boarding a bus
    It came after more arrivals yesterday, which followed a brief pause in crossings due to windy sea conditions https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11234471/Migrant-gives-double-thumbs-group-including-babies-young-children-arrive-RNLI-lifeboat.html

    1. Put them in the bus. Lock the bus firmly, Go to the ferry terminal. Go to Calais and dump them there.

    2. If the politicians wanted to get rid of illegal immigrants they would do so.

      We are side-tracked into asking ‘But how can this be done’ – the question should be “Why isn’t it being done?”

      “How” can be easily solved if there is the will – the relevant question is “Why Not”.

        1. The sytem is rigged. When the candidates are a gorilla, an orangutan and a chimpanzee, you elect an ape.

  27. Britain needs more Grenadier Guards – and we need them now
    We love to bask in the glittering glory of our Armed Forces, but they are shamefully starved of manpower

    ALLISON PEARSON https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2022/09/20/britain-needs-grenadier-guards-need-now/

    Great comment here

    Pause For Thought
    16 MIN AGO
    The primary duty of government is to protect the country from external aggression. To-day, most of our tax payments are spent on welfare payments: 6 million on Universal credit; 3 million on housing benefit; 1.6 million on disability benefit; a third of UK households on in-work benefits of one kind or another. Our welfare system has evolved from being one which acts as a safety net for those who fall on hard times (loss of a job, serious illness) to one which increasingly facilitates a lifestyle choice i.e. I’m a single mum: I need income support, I need housing support and so on and so forth. And then look at the number of tax payers who actually make a net positive contribution to the Exchequer.
    Our system is unaffordable, does not work and yet we still refuse to face up to it.

    1. Zuby, on GB News yesterday, described how the ‘safety net’ has become a ‘hammock’ for many.

        1. He is an excellent, clever and amusing man. He has a First Class honours degree in Computer Technology from Oxford University which endears him to me because my second son has recently achieved a distinction in his Masters’ Degree in the same subject.

    2. Totally agree. However, it slightly annoys me that “we still refuse to face up to it”. It’s government who refuses to face up to it.

      I would think most people on this site have known this for a long time and despair of our government ever doing anything about it. Indeed, we all are outraged about the ceaseless arrival of gimmegrunts who we have to pay for.

      When will government do something!

    3. Men evolved to protect the boundaries, to provide a safe environment for weaker members of the group.
      Women evolved to care for babies.

      The above changes happened after women got the vote. There has never been a serious attempt to understand what the long term result of that would be.

    4. Our cleaner has a daughter who sprogged 3x by an ‘abusive partner’. Plus cleaner’s other half has COPD and peripheral neuropathy.
      Listening to her discussing the ins and outs of the benefit system is like learning a whole new language.

    5. Been saying that for ages. We cannot afford the sort of welfare state we have (particularly with unlimited immigration of people who don’t contribute).

      1. Some will. Marcus was preaching to a full church yesterday evening. Founders Day at St Barts, the anniversay of the death of Prior Rahere, who founded both the church and the hospital. One of the NHS bosses did a reading and his accent reminded me of Liz Truss. Where is she from?

          1. The derivation of chester is, “Middle English chestre, from Old English ceaster, a borrowing from Latin castrum”. I think I prefer Mancastrum.

          2. I am a Cestrefeldian. But not an ‘Old Cestrefeldian’: that is reserved for alumni of Chesterfield School.

          3. There is a place in Cambridgeshire called Godmanchester. My father always referred to it, as Christliverpool.

      2. I’m hoping the one I’m going to will be. It’s the rescheduled Battle of Britain service at an RAF station.

    1. The trouble with CoE priests is that too many of them try too hard to be too trendy and too ‘with it’.

      I remember that when the New English Bible (NEB) was published in 1961 the School Chaplain instructed us all to get our own copies. The main purpose of the NEB as far as we could see was to remove all the splendour, beauty and dignity from the the King James Authorised Version and we boys at Blundell’s hated it.

      But this odious version of the Bible spread as did the suppression of the Book of Common Prayer in favour of a horrible series of prayer books which abandoned the traditional liturgy. I am sure that my parents were not alone in deciding only to go to church when the KJV and the Book of Common Prayer would be used.

      1. The NEB and its ignoble companions just sound clunking.
        I believe the Papists are having the same trouble with their priests – and particularly the High Heid Yin.

        1. Yes. The answer to the question,”Is the Pope a Catholic?” is not as clear cut as we’d like. There is some ongoing debate on this subject. Considering his actions and pronouncements, his harsh treatment of traditionalists, his”woke” approach, I’m tending to say “no”.

        2. Yes. The answer to the question,”Is the Pope a Catholic?” is not as clear cut as we’d like. There is some ongoing debate on this subject. Considering his actions and pronouncements, his harsh treatment of traditionalists, his”woke” approach, I’m tending to say “no”.

    2. Sadly, NOT “across Britain”.

      Finding a church where the BCP and King James Bible are routine is extremely difficult.

      1. Except in London where we have All Saints Margaret Street, the Temple Chuch, St Barts and possibly others though when I escaped what had become Janet and John Do Church in Fulham, I wasn’t prepared to risk any but these three and opted for Barts having followed Marcus on Twatter.

        1. Think yourself a VERY lucky girl.

          In Narfurk – Janet and John rule….everywhere. Our church clls itself a BCP one – but, some years ago, a retired priest gave himself the task of doing little pamphlets for Matins and Evensong – in J & J-ese. The Bible was – natch – a tawdry modern one, too.

          These were some of the reasons that I gave up.

          1. Even our BCP service has modern versions of the readings. If I’m given warning of what I’m to read, I copy my KJV bible passage.

      1. My sister and persuaded her, after five years of reluctance, to replace her wholly inadequate kitchen earlier this year. She now loves it and has decided to modernise the bathroom too.

        It didn’t go so well though because her friends had told her it would be about £3,000, my sister and I estimated more like £4500 – 5000. The first quote we have had has been between £6-7000. I don’t think she’ll do it if it’ll cost that much, although she’s got bags of money. V annoying.

    1. Lovely here. Going to go and repot a Thyme plant I bought yesterday.
      Also making chicken stock.

          1. Strip all the chicken away and make stock from the carcass.

            I had an email from Pipers farm this morning about ordering a Christmas turkey. Free range Bronze which are undoubtedly the best. A one kilo rolled turkey breast for £27. I’m going to Iceland (shop) instead.

  28. I used to go out with a girl who punched me in the face when she orgasmed.
    I didn’t mind too much until I found out she was faking them….

  29. One for the blood pressure.
    Just received an NHS notification – via a letter – to book my clot shot. (Polite reaction; stick it!)
    That was bad enough.
    It gets better! Out of the 5 pages, 3 of them were translations into multiple languages and scripts.

  30. 356323+ up ticks,
    Maybe seeing the country so evilly
    wounded, raped & abused, in the main by
    foreigners with a good % of indigenous peoples, being the current trend could we not
    as remaining decent peoples turn a profit
    ( tent folding finance ) by an advertising campaign worldwide to aggressive nations NOT to despoil their own lands but fight out their aggression in urban / countryside areas in varying weather conditions here.

    ALL casualties will be treated by the host state, hotel accommodation provided.

    See England and die …… maybe.

  31. I have mentioned the “hole in the ground” that was dug near our house on Monday – today we received a letter from Severn Trent advising us that the work would be taking place on 19 September! Since the team left on Monday afternoon, having seemingly replaced what was broken, there has been no work done at all on the site, although two “Highway Maintenance” lorries have driven past! The road is supposed to reopen tomorrow!

      1. I use an exercycle while commenting on here. 5 miles and it goes in minutes. Mostly because of my knowledgeable and humourous posts.

          1. Four old men are bragging about their sons
            The first says, “My son is a bishop, and when he enters the room people say, Your Excellency”.

            The second says, “My son is an archbishop, and when he enters the room people say, Your Grace”.

            The third says, “My son is a cardinal, and when he enters the room people say, Your Eminence”.

            “My son is 7 feet tall, and 500 pounds,” says the fourth man.

            “And when he enters the room, people say, ‘My God !’

  32. In the Beginning ….the Heav’ns and Earth
    Rose out of CHAOS:

    [Milton out of Genesis]

    South African economy crippled as decrepit power plants trigger escalating blackouts
    Years of neglect are catching up with country’s fleet of dilapidated coal power stations

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/09/21/south-african-economy-crippled-decrepit-power-plants-trigger/

    And so the most industrially efficient country in Africa has been crippled just as its neighbour Rhodesia Zimbabwe, once the ‘breadbasket of Africa’, has become a starving wasteland.

    It is almost impressive to see just how very quickly the indigenous politicians in Africa can turn Order into Chaos.

  33. In the Beginning ….the Heav’ns and Earth
    Rose out of CHAOS:

    [Milton out of Genesis]

    South African economy crippled as decrepit power plants trigger escalating blackouts
    Years of neglect are catching up with country’s fleet of dilapidated coal power stations

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/09/21/south-african-economy-crippled-decrepit-power-plants-trigger/

    And so the most industrially efficient country in Africa has been crippled just as its neighbour Rhodesia Zimbabwe, once the ‘breadbasket of Africa’, has become a starving wasteland.

    It is almost impressive to see just how very quickly the indigenous politicians in Africa can turn Order into Chaos.

  34. I quite often use the Met Office forecast site before heading out for a walk – it’s not that accurate at times, but can be useful. I hadn’t noticed before but there are now little “i” markers scattered around to give you more information. Using this facility I now realise that, for example, the section marked “chance of precipitation” actually refers to the, er, chance of precipitation falling at any given time!! “Temperature” apparently refers to the temperature at the time!! To be fair the “Visibility” explanation actually does explain the various abbreviations, so M [medium] shows that you can expect to see an object clearly between 4.1 and 10 Km, which is at least useful.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/dbf00e2b1912fc6b78d32a2bb5de00ccc94ea2c7227c54ef456f3654547ea715.png

    1. “you can expect to see an object clearly between 4.1 and 10 Km” – does taht mean they will come round and lend me a telescope? Close to blind as a mole, me.

  35. Article by Melanie Phillips:

    An inflection point for Iran?

    A young woman’s death after arrest by the morality police has sparked huge protests

    Melanie Phillips

    Sep 21

    Protest in Tehran over death of Mahsa Amini

    There have been amazing scenes in Iran. Women have been burning their headscarves and cutting off their hair in protest at the death of 22 year-old Mahsa Amini following her arrest by Tehran’s morality police.

    Amini died after three days in a coma. Witnesses have claimed she was beaten on the head with a baton while being dragged into a police van to be taken to a detention centre for not wearing a headscarf.

    Since Iran’s Islamic revolutionary regime came to power in 1979, women have not only been required to wear headscarves but have also been banned from wearing tight trousers, ripped jeans, brightly coloured outfits or clothing that reveals the knee.

    Tehran’s police chief, General Hossein Rahimi, said Amini had violated the dress code. The police have rebutted the accusations of brutality and claimed she died of a heart attack. But Col. Ahmed Mirzaei, the head of the moral security police of Greater Tehran, has reportedly been suspended.

    The move failed to prevent massive unrest which has now been going on for four days. The Telegraph reports:

    Videos posted on social media showed protesters setting fire to hijabs while chanting promises to “take revenge” for “our sister” Amini, who died in hospital on Friday after three days in a coma following her arrest during a visit to the capital…

    Videos of women cutting their hair to express their anger at women’s treatment at the hands of the police have also been shared widely on social media, while Googoosh — arguably the country’s most famous female singer — gave an emotional tribute to Amini at a concert in Frankfurt…

    Police in the capital used tear gas and batons to disperse crowds of protesters chanting slogans denouncing the morality police — the enforcers of the Islamic republic’s draconian laws requiring women to wear headscarves in public.

    Several hundred people gathered on Tehran’s hijab street — or headscarf street —chanting “Death to the Islamic republic!” as they removed their headscarves.

    As ever, the courage of those protesting against Iran’s fanatical Islamic regime is astonishing. According to local rights groups, at least five people were killed and hundreds more injured on Monday when security forces opened fire on protesting crowds in Iran’s Kurdish region, with two of the deaths reportedly occurring in Amini’s home city of Saqez. Social media videos appeared to show protesters running from gunfire in the town of Divandarreh, in Kurdistan province. Protests have also broken out in several universities in Tehran and in Iran’s second city Mashhad.

    Witnesses said demonstrators poured into Tehran’s Keshavarz Boulevard, a central thoroughfare, chanting, “Death to the dictator”. They also chanted against the police and damaged a police vehicle.

    As has been demonstrated by the suspension of the head of the morality police and the announcement of an inquiry into Amini’s death, the Iranian tyrants have been showing nervousness at this fresh eruption of street protest. As well they might: few know better than a revolutionary regime how fragile is the control it wields through brutality. If enough people have the courage to face that down, the regime falls.

    Until now, the protests that have periodically erupted and have been viciously suppressed — including the “Green Revolution” that followed the disputed 2009 presidential elections — haven’t achieved the critical mass necessary to bring the regime down. But under the hardline president Ebrahim Raisi — who has presided over the execution of more than 300 people this year for political crimes — and the increasing privations of economic collapse, with an approximately 300 per cent increase in the cost of basic goods, public fury and desperation have been increasing.

    For months now, there have been repeated massive demonstrations in which the protesters have somehow managed to communicate with each other even though the regime shuts down the internet.

    Moreover, the Iranian people — who according to expert commentators are adept at reading the runes, as well as incubating theories about both real and imaginary conspiracies — may be sensing that the regime is weakening.

    They can see it is suffering one calamity after another — senior Revolutionary Guards and officials involved in Iran’s nuclear programme being mysteriously killed, equally mysterious explosions at sensitive military plants — which defy the laughable explanations of accident or malfunction that the regime is offering up. Believing that Israel is one of the most powerful countries in the world, people are speculating that Israel is behind these developments and that it is preparing to attack the regime directly.

    They can see that senior figures in the security establishment are now publicly blaming each other for these calamities. Since Iranians don’t squabble in public, this is being viewed as a further sign of the regime’s weakness and internal dissension.

    Excited questions were also asked about an apparently extraordinary event on Iranian TV. In early June, the night before the anniversary of the death of Ayatollah Khomeini who had led the 1979 Islamic revolution, all nine Persian-language foreign TV channels broadcasting into Iran aired simultaneously an hour-long live interview with Reza Pahlavi, the son of the last Shah, who is the only opposition figure known to all Iranians. Since these TV channels reportedly all loathe each other, people speculated that this live simulcast suggested a decision had been taken somewhere to “greenlight” Reza Pahlavi as the symbolic or actual leader of the overthrow of the regime.

    Whether any of this speculation is plausible or true is beside the point. For a popular insurrection against a tyranny to succeed, the people involved have to be sure that they have powerful backing. Absent that, they cannot sustain a revolt in which they will unavoidably suffer many casualties.

    Maybe this latest revolt will peter out like all the rest. But if the oppressed and suffering Iranian people have decided that the regime is on its last legs and that powerful forces elsewhere in the world now have their back, this might just be the inflection point for which so many of us have hoped for so long.”

    1. Good God, in Islam, she’s just an inferior woman. The Morality Police are only doing their job…

      …and they’re always right, innit?

    2. Women in Iran are burning their hijabs while Muslim women in the UK make a point of wearing theirs. Funny old world, isn’t it?
      Edit: missed out the UK bit originally.

    3. Women in Iran are burning their hijabs while Muslim women in the UK make a point of wearing theirs. Funny old world, isn’t it?
      Edit: missed out the UK bit originally.

    4. Women in Iran are burning their hijabs while Muslim women in the UK make a point of wearing theirs. Funny old world, isn’t it?
      Edit: missed out the UK bit originally.

    5. It is a good lesson in revolutionary tactics. For us to do it against the current totalitarian redgime, we need to find sufficient dissident armed forces to ensure that we can follow through with any armed uprising against our own Stasi Police.

  36. Article by Melanie Phillips:

    An inflection point for Iran?

    A young woman’s death after arrest by the morality police has sparked huge protests

    Melanie Phillips

    Sep 21

    Protest in Tehran over death of Mahsa Amini

    There have been amazing scenes in Iran. Women have been burning their headscarves and cutting off their hair in protest at the death of 22 year-old Mahsa Amini following her arrest by Tehran’s morality police.

    Amini died after three days in a coma. Witnesses have claimed she was beaten on the head with a baton while being dragged into a police van to be taken to a detention centre for not wearing a headscarf.

    Since Iran’s Islamic revolutionary regime came to power in 1979, women have not only been required to wear headscarves but have also been banned from wearing tight trousers, ripped jeans, brightly coloured outfits or clothing that reveals the knee.

    Tehran’s police chief, General Hossein Rahimi, said Amini had violated the dress code. The police have rebutted the accusations of brutality and claimed she died of a heart attack. But Col. Ahmed Mirzaei, the head of the moral security police of Greater Tehran, has reportedly been suspended.

    The move failed to prevent massive unrest which has now been going on for four days. The Telegraph reports:

    Videos posted on social media showed protesters setting fire to hijabs while chanting promises to “take revenge” for “our sister” Amini, who died in hospital on Friday after three days in a coma following her arrest during a visit to the capital…

    Videos of women cutting their hair to express their anger at women’s treatment at the hands of the police have also been shared widely on social media, while Googoosh — arguably the country’s most famous female singer — gave an emotional tribute to Amini at a concert in Frankfurt…

    Police in the capital used tear gas and batons to disperse crowds of protesters chanting slogans denouncing the morality police — the enforcers of the Islamic republic’s draconian laws requiring women to wear headscarves in public.

    Several hundred people gathered on Tehran’s hijab street — or headscarf street —chanting “Death to the Islamic republic!” as they removed their headscarves.

    As ever, the courage of those protesting against Iran’s fanatical Islamic regime is astonishing. According to local rights groups, at least five people were killed and hundreds more injured on Monday when security forces opened fire on protesting crowds in Iran’s Kurdish region, with two of the deaths reportedly occurring in Amini’s home city of Saqez. Social media videos appeared to show protesters running from gunfire in the town of Divandarreh, in Kurdistan province. Protests have also broken out in several universities in Tehran and in Iran’s second city Mashhad.

    Witnesses said demonstrators poured into Tehran’s Keshavarz Boulevard, a central thoroughfare, chanting, “Death to the dictator”. They also chanted against the police and damaged a police vehicle.

    As has been demonstrated by the suspension of the head of the morality police and the announcement of an inquiry into Amini’s death, the Iranian tyrants have been showing nervousness at this fresh eruption of street protest. As well they might: few know better than a revolutionary regime how fragile is the control it wields through brutality. If enough people have the courage to face that down, the regime falls.

    Until now, the protests that have periodically erupted and have been viciously suppressed — including the “Green Revolution” that followed the disputed 2009 presidential elections — haven’t achieved the critical mass necessary to bring the regime down. But under the hardline president Ebrahim Raisi — who has presided over the execution of more than 300 people this year for political crimes — and the increasing privations of economic collapse, with an approximately 300 per cent increase in the cost of basic goods, public fury and desperation have been increasing.

    For months now, there have been repeated massive demonstrations in which the protesters have somehow managed to communicate with each other even though the regime shuts down the internet.

    Moreover, the Iranian people — who according to expert commentators are adept at reading the runes, as well as incubating theories about both real and imaginary conspiracies — may be sensing that the regime is weakening.

    They can see it is suffering one calamity after another — senior Revolutionary Guards and officials involved in Iran’s nuclear programme being mysteriously killed, equally mysterious explosions at sensitive military plants — which defy the laughable explanations of accident or malfunction that the regime is offering up. Believing that Israel is one of the most powerful countries in the world, people are speculating that Israel is behind these developments and that it is preparing to attack the regime directly.

    They can see that senior figures in the security establishment are now publicly blaming each other for these calamities. Since Iranians don’t squabble in public, this is being viewed as a further sign of the regime’s weakness and internal dissension.

    Excited questions were also asked about an apparently extraordinary event on Iranian TV. In early June, the night before the anniversary of the death of Ayatollah Khomeini who had led the 1979 Islamic revolution, all nine Persian-language foreign TV channels broadcasting into Iran aired simultaneously an hour-long live interview with Reza Pahlavi, the son of the last Shah, who is the only opposition figure known to all Iranians. Since these TV channels reportedly all loathe each other, people speculated that this live simulcast suggested a decision had been taken somewhere to “greenlight” Reza Pahlavi as the symbolic or actual leader of the overthrow of the regime.

    Whether any of this speculation is plausible or true is beside the point. For a popular insurrection against a tyranny to succeed, the people involved have to be sure that they have powerful backing. Absent that, they cannot sustain a revolt in which they will unavoidably suffer many casualties.

    Maybe this latest revolt will peter out like all the rest. But if the oppressed and suffering Iranian people have decided that the regime is on its last legs and that powerful forces elsewhere in the world now have their back, this might just be the inflection point for which so many of us have hoped for so long.”

  37. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11233981/King-Charles-chooses-France-surprise-place-foreign-visit.html
    This article is a blatant description of how Charles is going to pursue his WEF agenda.
    His pledge to back down from his political activity was worth about as much as every other WEF leader’s promises to do what they know the public wants.
    Charles lies, just as he did when he pledged that Camilla would never become Queen (I don’t care whether she does or not, I do care that Charles lied to us when he intended all along that she would be).
    And look at the photo with Macron gripping Charles’s arm – he would never have tried that on with HM.

      1. Who is going to water all these trees once the bigwigs have departed? I don’t give much for their chances of survival.

      2. This is BS, and nothing new. After the Algerian independence, the government did a massive tree planting program in the 1970s to try and hold back the Sahara. Most of the trees died, but you can still see some of them.

  38. The seven miles turned into eight – as the MR wanted to inspect a field of potatoes to see whether harvesting had begun. It hadn’t.

    Bought some nice chicken from Martins Farm, Hindolveston – for supper with our own new potatoes and Cobra beans. Very nice weather for a ride. Almost still; mild but no sunshine. Feel better already….

    Did I miss anything?

        1. I had smoked salmon and scrambled eggs for breakfast. Strawbs, black cherry yogurt and grapes for lunch.

          One dose of fybogel and then five doses of gin & tonic while i read Bill’s posts. Oh how i larfed !

          1. I had a medium-rare rib-eye steak and two fried eggs at 1300hrs. That was my breakfast, dinner, tea and supper in one go.

            I’ll skip food completely tomorrow (just tea, coffee and water).

            On Friday I’ll have a dish of lamb stew … at 1300hrs … and that will be my breakfast, dinner, tea and supper.

          2. You shouldn’t starve yourself though – it’s not much fun cooking for one but eggs are easy and quick and nutritious.

          3. I find it difficult to be arsed to cook just for me when I’m alone. That’s what crispbread and cheese or ham and pickle were made for.

          4. No. I tend to have either two or three complete fasting days per week but there is no pattern to it. I have to say I’m enjoying it and I never feel hungry.

    1. I don’t like either of these two characters particularly, but it’s very unpleasant how everyone is piling in on them. Not this meme in particular, but articles in the Mail. Mail commenters can be vicious.

    1. Just add a ‘-ski’ or ‘-ov’ to the end of each word and shout. Russians are bound to understand you.

    1. Well, said Patrick Christys.

      But nobody in the three main political parties or the MSM has the guts or the integrity to say anything about it.

      Come on ogga. Form your own political party and give the British voting public a a voting alternative to Lib/Lab/Con. The last time I voted, it was for the Conservatives – but at that time Margaret Thatcher was their leader.

      1. 356323+ up ticks,

        Afternoon R,
        The lab/lib/con/current ukip have unfurled their true colours in no uncertain fashion and a future agenda of a poisonous nature.
        In my book still supporting them is strengthening their aims and prolonging the decent peoples suffering.
        I do believe that what is needed is the likes of
        L Fox / reclaim party, massive build program, stay dedicated
        to the party in ALL voting opportunities, NO tactical crap.

    2. The police have given in. They are forming lines and flapping their hands. They should be arresting everyone for affray, and whatever they else can add to the charges.
      However, they are probably aware that the judiciary have been asked to minimise the length of sentences as the prisons are full up.

      1. Stop building houses for the gimmegrants, build more prisons, lots more prisons.

        Employ Hindus to guard the Muslims and vice versa.

      2. 356323+ up ticks,

        Evening HP,
        To my mind much of our woes
        are orchestrated via westminster, after establishing that racism is highly taboo use it to counter any opposition to
        ” manufactured” odious issues
        it protects criminality in a no action to be taken manner.

  39. Apologies for a ‘weird thread’ but it’s bugging me.

    Recently Junior has been saying ‘Mongo wants a biscuit’ or somesuch. Now, I know and Junior knows that Mongo does not want a biscuit, he (Junior) does.

    Now, if the Warqueen handles this, she’ll give Mongo a biscuit. She doesn’t think about these things at the same level. That’ll make Mongo very ill (well, if he gets to a packet, yes as he doesn’t know *not* to eat. He eats what we give him, from celery to cheese.).

    I’ve tried the ‘Does Mongo really want that, or do you? and ‘You know, he probably doesn’t, but would you like a biscuit?’ I thought that’d give him the confidence to have whatever he likes as himself, but he’s persisting with this ‘Mongo would like…’

    I wondered if it comes from the Warqueen being rather stressed recently and drifting about in her own fugue. She poked me awake at 4am to have a discussion about our future (moving, wills, life costs and whether I still loved her or not. ‘Don’t want to/should make one/too expensive/long, long discussion – why is ‘yes’ ‘of course’ and ‘did you ever doubt it?’ not enough?

    1. I had a simple rule when my sons were young – no eating except at meals. And I meant it – and they knew that.

      1. I think the biscuit was an example.
        Also, when I was a child, I genuinely believed that helping myself to food between meals was stealing – I didn’t want my children to grow up feeling so uncomfortable in their own home, so we dropped the no eating between meals rule.

        1. In our house we had no eating. If you had a cooked meal at school you didn’t get a dinner in the evening.

        2. We simply told the children “that there’s no lock on the fridge”. Alas on those occasions when they now honour us with their presence, they have extended that to, “there’s no lock on the wine cupboard”.

          1. Mine don’t broach wine bottles, but if one is open, the level falls remarkably quickly – but always invisibly!

      2. Much obliged all – I;m worried about Junior turning into me and being a tubby lad. I was bullied until I got big enough that people were frightened to – now they do it out of ‘earshot’.

        I’m not a good role model either myself with my own biccie eating.

    2. Children go through these phases, I think. I’d try something like what you said “Mongo doesn’t look as though he wants a biscuit. Do you want a biscuit?” i.e let him know that you’re in charge, but let him have his biscuit.
      (*I’m just a parent of children with normal hang-ups)

    3. Junior needs a dose of reality. I think you are both indulging him and your dogs ! Send the WarQueen to a tropical Island all expenses paid for three months and then you will see an improvement in…………………yourself. ! :@)

  40. Oh the dilemma; Scotland is playing the Ukraine tonight.

    They can’t both lose, so a nil nil draw, with lots of players on both sides sent off so they can’t play in next next match is about the best I can hope for.

    1. If Scotland scores a couple of goals, then at half time, the Ukrainian captain will be on the phone to his mates in the US demanding more players and a few nuclear missiles.

    2. Like many people living in England, I have English, Scottish and Irish ancestry (I’m a mongrel), so I have no problem wishing the other home nations (this includes the Irish Republic) well in sporting events – as long as they are not playing against England.

      1. I too have Scottish antecedents, but the total hatred shown by Scottish supporters towards the English has changed my attitude.
        What was once a friendly rivalry has turned into something unpleasant. I may be biased, but I never feel the hostility at Wembley or Twickenham even gets close to that at Murrayfield or Hampden Park.
        Even their bloody “anthem” is directed against the English and the English alone.

          1. Indeed, but when have you ever heard it sung?

            In fact, where have you ever see it printed, apart from very old hymn books?

            Perhaps the England supporters should sing that verse instead of the first at all fixtures vs Scotland.

          2. There are no accounts of the extra verse ever being performed or sung and only a couple references in texts so it was a very short lived phenomenon. Also, it is important to note that the verse was never part of the National Anthem as this was not formalised until the early 19th Century. If anything it was a used as a temporary sing-along that would quickly have become irrelevant following the arrival of the Duke of Cumberland.

            https://cullodenbattlefield.wordpress.com/2017/09/22/the-mysterious-jacobite-verse-of-the-national-anthem/

          3. It is not in my “Scottish Students song Book” of 1897. There are just the three verses.

        1. In 1975, a nineteen-year old me was sent to my firm’s Glasgow office for a few weeks. The boss lived near to Hampden and one evening, he took me home to dinner with his family and afterwards, to a Scotland vs Portugal friendly at the stadium. The crowd booed the national anthem, which I just ignored.
          However in the second half, the English ref gave an unpopular call and the crowd began chanting: “We hate the F…..ing English!” The boss looked a bit embarrassed and I just kept my mouth shut for the rest of the game. I would cheer for the other home nations but not for Scotland.

        2. In 1975, a nineteen-year old me was sent to my firm’s Glasgow office for a few weeks. The boss lived near to Hampden and one evening, he took me home to dinner with his family and afterwards, to a Scotland vs Portugal friendly at the stadium. The crowd booed the national anthem, which I just ignored.
          However in the second half, the English ref gave an unpopular call and the crowd began chanting: “We hate the F…..ing English!” The boss looked a bit embarrassed and I just kept my mouth shut for the rest of the game. I would cheer for the other home nations but not for Scotland.

    1. To market to market
      To buy a fat fig*
      Home again, home again
      Jigitty jig

      *Woke moderated – so as not to offend….

      1. We moved into a flat. Our eldest was six at the time. We were wrangling the others when the thought occurred,”where is Jemima?”. Jemima had climbed to the top floor, the third, on the outside of the bannister. She waved to us, hanging on with one hand. “Please come down”, we said, fairly quietly. She did.

  41. Toby Young in the Spekkie.

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-has-paypal-cancelled-me-

    “Why has PayPal cancelled the Free Speech Union?

    I thought one of the benefits of being cancelled – I lost five positions in quick succession at the beginning of 2018 – is that it immunises you from being cancelled again. After all, what more dirt could be thrown at me? The offence archaeologists did such a thorough job four years ago, sifting through everything I’d said or written dating back to 1987, that there was nothing left to dig up. But it turns out that was naive. Last week I got cancelled again.

    The instrument of my downfall was PayPal, the technology company that supports online money transfers and operates as a payment processor for online businesses, auction sites and so on. At around 2 p.m. last Thursday I received an email from PayPal informing me that the company was ‘initiating closure’ of my personal account because I was ‘in violation’ of its ‘Acceptable Use Policy’. I looked up that policy and it covers a multitude of sins, but no clue was offered as to which one I’d committed. ‘If you have money in your PayPal balance, we’ll hold it for up to 180 days,’ it said. That was a bit annoying because I have over £600 in the account, but it wasn’t the end of the world. I mainly use it for receiving payments from European magazines I write for occasionally.

    Then it got serious. Within a few minutes of contacting me, PayPal sent the same message to the Daily Sceptic, the news publishing website I’ve been running for two-and-a-half years, and the Free Speech Union, the organisation I set up in 2020 to defend people threatened with cancellation. In both cases, PayPal was shutting down the accounts for the same reason – breaching the Acceptable Use Policy. No further details. To give you a sense of how serious this is, about a quarter of the Daily Sceptic’s donor revenue is processed by PayPal and about a third of the Free Speech Union’s 9,500 members pay their dues via PayPal.

    ‘So what?’ you might think. Just email all those people and advise them to use a different payment processor. I’ll do that, obviously, but it’s inevitable that some won’t bother – some of them won’t even open the emails – and the resulting loss of revenue will be hugely disruptive. The Daily Sceptic has four people on the payroll and the Free Speech Union has 15 and they both operate on tight margins. I was relying on PayPal to deliver the service it promised to perform when I first signed up and which I’ve been paying for until now (1.5 per cent commission on every transaction). I had no idea it could just whisk the rug out from under you, with no notice and without having to provide any proper explanation. In my case, the excuse offered was obviously bogus. How could all three accounts be guilty of ‘violating’ the same policy within minutes of each other?

    I tried appealing to customer services and got nowhere. I wrote to Vincent Belloc, the vice president of PayPal UK, and didn’t get a reply. I contacted the ‘corporate communications team’ in New York and London, telling them I was planning to write about what had happened and asking for a comment. Nothing. As so often when dealing with these Silicon Valley behemoths, it’s impossible to hold them to account. There is no redress if they decide to terminate your account.

    So why has PayPal cancelled me? I can only guess, but I suspect it’s because someone at the company isn’t very keen on free speech. I did some googling and discovered that numerous organisations and individuals with dissident political views have had their accounts closed by PayPal recently, particularly on the three issues you’re not allowed to be sceptical about: the lockdown policy and other Covid restrictions, the mRNA vaccines, and the ‘climate emergency’.

    The Daily Sceptic frequently publishes articles on those subjects and the Free Speech Union may have fallen foul of another taboo – defending people who’ve got into trouble with HR departments for refusing to declare their gender pronouns. PayPal, like most Big Tech companies, has sided with the trans-rights activists on that issue. A journalist called Colin Wright, an ex-academic with a PhD in biology and an outspoken critic of the view that sex is a social construct, lost his account in June.

    I expect the Daily Sceptic and the Free Speech Union will survive this attempt to demonetise them, but it’s left me wanting to do something about this insidious new way of cancelling people. As the switch to a cashless society gathers speed, we need to put some laws in place to protect people from being punished by companies like PayPal for saying something their employees disapprove of.”

    This article appears in this week’s Spectator, out tomorrow

    1. That’s the reason the PTB want a cashless society, to cancel and eventually starve those who offend them..

    2. He was doing so well until the last sentence.
      Do you also believe in Father Christmas, Toby?
      Listen to your pal Delingpole. The whole POINT of the CBDCs is so that they can control you and abolish free speech.

    1. If you are going to put an argument concerning historical facts, do your homework. Otherwise you end up with egg on your face.

        1. He didn’t do his homework. He just came out with a typical BLM spiel, demonstrating his ignorance.

          1. Ah, you’re talking about the black Lemon. ‘Twasn’t clear before, you seemed to be castigating Oberstleutnant.

          2. Ah, right. But OB replied to me showing his agreement, so he obviously knew I was talking about the TV host.

          3. I got the impression that you were referring to the TV host. It’s also a bit sad that so many prominent people don’t seem to know the facts already.

  42. Well, that’s been a busy day!
    Came back with Stepson and he stayed for a while giving me a hand up the “garden” getting one of the steps relocated.
    Also shifted the curved kerbstone I mentioned yesterday ready to be built into the wall.

    After he left I got a 2nd step reset and then began to do a cheese & onion sauce to go with the cauliflower I steamed t’other day.
    Just finishing off doing that when Ashes turned up so got her to make the teas and when I had finished went up the “garden” with our teas.

    She has now departed hence to her brother’s at Scunthorpe and I’ve enjoyed the cauliflower cheese with a rather nice minced beef pasty.

    I did offer to feed Ashes but she wanted to get to her brother’s.

    And what a voice!! VERY powerful.

    1. Jolly nice, rhe cauliflower cheese looked – I was sad to miss it.

      And Bob’s voice is bloody brilliant!

  43. Biden stirring things up. It is now looking very dangerous. Anything could now precipitate anything.

          1. It was repeated not long ago on the Sony/Great TV channel. Apparently six different Canadian huskies played the smart character.

      1. Are the staff and pupils so brainwashed that they can’t see anything wrong with him? Those nipples are revolting!

          1. He might not have been everyone’s cup of tea, but he certainly understood what was happening in the world!

      1. There are elections for school boards in a few weeks and there are some candidates standing against this crash stupidity.
        Needless to say, the woke lefties are out in force criticizing them for being anti democratic.

        1. Funny that Lefties view democracy as getting their own way and anything against that is evil and must be stopped.

          Ah, hypocrisy. Thy name is Left.

    1. The photo shows him working in the machine shop. Besides the hair not being tied back those falsies are not only a distraction to students, which could be dangerous, they are a danger to himself.

          1. Jolly fine thanks! Elder daughter and family off to the Algrave on Sunday, so we have Lyra coming to stay! Hector is very excited about his sister coming!

  44. Evening, all. Good ride today; Coolio was doing his level best to actually bend and use his hind legs! Got some nice trot work towards the end – rhythmical, forward and soft. He got extra Polos!

      1. That sort, definitely 🙂 It’s a vast improvement on the way he’s been going. He has a tendency to rush rather than keep an even pace.

    1. How do you train a horse to use specific leg movements? I have an image of you demonstrating with aerobic moves but surely not.

      It must be satisfying to see the success.

      1. As there are no mirrors, I can’t see the success 🙂 I have to rely on feel and the comments of my instructor on the ground. The horse’s impulsion comes from behind so you have to get him engaged – the back end working properly with his hind legs stepping under and not all his weight on his front end (the forehand). There are cetain exercises you can do to encourage this such as shoulder in, travers, leg yield, serpentines and varying diameters of circles (the smaller the circle, the more bend is required).

        1. As a casual observer who can ride a bit, I appreciate how much effort goes into it all.

          What made you choose dressage as your “horsey-hobby”?

          1. I no longer bounce 🙂 I used to three day event, hunt and show jump, but the older I got, the less appealing falling off became. I also did in-hand and ridden showing but I don’t have a horse to do that with, now. Dressage satisfies the inner pedant – getting it right gives me a great deal of satisfaction. Hitting the markers (the letters around the arena) exactly on the spot, remembering all the movements (that keeps my brain active for a start) and, done well, it’s like dancing (which I also enjoy).

  45. Wordle; am I the sole punter today?
    Birdie Three for me.

    Wordle 459 3/6
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    1. Wordle 459 5/6

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      1. Daily Quordle 240
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    2. No, I did it at lunchtime as usual.
      Wordle 459 3/6

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    3. Not quite as good

      Wordle 459 4/6

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      1. And for completeness Daily Quordle 240
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  46. Wordle; am I the sole punter today?
    Birdie Three for me.

    Wordle 459 3/6
    ⬜🟨🟨🟨⬜
    🟨🟨⬜⬜🟨
    🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

    1. The only problem with that image is the fact that our children and grandchildren will be shackled with the debt for a very long time

    1. Anyone who is foolish enough to support their country for their countrymen is automatically labelled far right.

      1. The answer may well be to help with rising energy costs the Licence fee will be scrapped and the BBC can prosper as an entertainment service only by subscription

          1. I was endeavouring to imply that it should not be allowed to present its ‘News’….i.e the one claimed to be the most trusted in the World!

          2. I never find BBC ‘News’ remotely funny. I despise the editors who create it presenting the trusting general public with half truths and concealing valid opposing opinions.

    2. How long before the UK requires the services of a new ‘Home Guard’ comprised of those who have served in the armed forces to assist the police in saturating areas where insurrection becomes an issue?

    3. Let’s just st chuck them all out, it’s never going to be changed or reconciled.
      They obviously don’t fit in.

    4. Let them carry on.
      The longer it carries on, the more likely it is that even the woke will realise that there really is a problem.

    5. But.. it is all the fault of the British. The British partitioned India and Pakistan in 1947, which caused thousands of deaths. So what is happening in Leicester is a continuation of the trouble caused by the partition.

      My arse!

      1. And of course Nothing to do with the ‘great book’.
        Everywhere you go, cause as much trouble and as many problems and make life as difficult as you can, for the kind people have taken you in.

      2. I expect there really are some who believe that Islam peacefully coexisted with the ancestral peoples of the lands it invaded before the evil British arrived. Islam reached what we know as Pakistan around 700, but didn’t claim large parts of India until the 11th century. It’s still our fault, though.

  47. I strongly recommend a visit to the Henry
    Moore foundation and sculpture Gardens.
    Perry Green.
    I’ve never been a fan of modern art. But today I was so impressed by the life and times of Henry Moore and his family.
    The preparation and work that goes into those monumental bronze structures is almost unbelievable.
    Plus we had a tour of the house they lived in.
    And it was quite an eye opener and actually remarkable. We stood in the family lounge and the guide recited the names of so many famous people who had been in that room. It filled me with a strange feeling of being frozen in time.
    A few of you live fairly close. Google it, you’ll love the visit. But you’ll need a dry day.

    1. I recommend Anish Kapoor.
      I thought “dreadful” from a few pieces, but the more I saw the more I appreciated his work.
      My understanding started at the Sydney Museum of modern art, wow! what an eye-opener that was.
      OK, the scale most certainly isn’t to everyone’s taste, but it truly fits its landscape.
      https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anish_Kapoor

      1. We might be going to Oz next year.
        I’d buy you a couple of coldies in the shadow of the opera house, circular Quay. 🙃🍻

  48. A lovely birthday day with my wife of 48 years.
    So tired and Much Haddam. (Perry Green)
    Go for it folks.
    Night all 😴😊

      1. Thanks Geoff. We have three Virgo birthdays close together (12th 20th 21st) in a row. And the Aussie waitress in the restaurant we went to last night. It’s her birthday tomorrow.
        And many thanks for what you do for us all. 😉

        1. There are lots of Virgo birthdays in my family, too (mine, my nephew’s, my uncle’s, my father’s), plus my old school friend, an old gardening friend and a fellow Mason. I blame all that Christmas cheer 🙂

          1. Ada (played by Les Dawson): We went to Blackpool for our honeymoon.

            Cissie (played by Roy Barraclough): Were you Virgo Intacta Ada?

            Ada (after a puzzled moment’s hesitation): No – bed and breakfast!

          1. Some confusion has occurred.
            I was mentioned my wife’s and our eldest sons birthday yesterday and the day before mine was on the 12th.
            But thanks 😊 anyway.

    1. But I have your birthday down as 12th September (rather than 21st September) and I thought I posted a trombone to mark your membership of the 76 Club? Is my list wrong – if so I am sorry.

      PLEASE would Nottlers let me know if there are any errors in my list so I can keep it up-to-date and accurate.

      I’ll put up the list tomorrow.

      1. My birthday is on the 12th but our eldest son was born on the 20th and it’s my wife’s, his mother, on the 21st.
        Typical Virgo, keep it tidy.

    1. I remember it well..with fondness..

      I had a boyfriend who owned an Austin Healey 3000, we had a lot of fun running around here there and everywhere.

      He took me to the theatre several times . one play i remember was at the Criterion , Iris Murdoch and JB Priestly’s A Severed Head..

      Life was easy and fun coupled with hard work studying in those days.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx06XNfDvk0

    2. 345323+ up ticks,

      O2O,
      Where did it go Oggs, it was lost in the main via fools not recognising reptiles in political pinstripe & holding allegiance to parties housing the political reptiles.

    3. 345323+ up ticks,

      O2O,
      Where did it go Oggs, it was lost in the main via fools not recognising reptiles in political pinstripe & holding allegiance to parties housing the political reptiles.

    4. 345323+ up ticks,

      O2O,
      Where did it go Oggs, it was lost in the main via fools not recognising reptiles in political pinstripe & holding allegiance to parties housing the political reptiles.

  49. Oh dear. Up to pump bilges and unable to get back to sleep.
    Poked my nose outside and it’s so dead calm out there this morning with not only owls hooting but also the faint whine from the refractory plant beside Harborough Rocks clearly heard.
    A clear, starry sky with 6°C and a few aircraft passing over.

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