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Good Morning All.
Morning Johnny, dull up here again and rain coming
We are 11C overcast with no wind.Dry.
Good Morning Folks,
Bright start here
Morning everyone.
Elderly man killed at London train station in ‘unprovoked and despicable’ attack. 28 February 2024.
An elderly man was killed in the early hours of Tuesday morning outside a railway station in an “unprovoked and despicable” attack.
British Transport Police (BTP) said the victim was found “badly hurt” by a member of staff outside Harold Wood Station in Havering, east London at around 4:30 am.
There seems to be some online suspicion that he was Jewish!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/27/elderly-man-killed-in-london-unprovoked-despicable-attack/
Member of staff? BR employee killed a customer?
Well he is probably not black or muslim, otherwise there would be huge headlines about racism.
Are the police waiting for the assailant to convert? His “Christian” name will be John Smith.
Are the police waiting for the assailant to convert? His “Christian” name will be John Smith.
That’s dreadful, the MSM won’t spread that around, it’s not in line with their current adgenda.
“A man has been arrested in connection with the incident and remains in police custody.”
An Elizabeth Line railway worker said the victim had been an “elderly man” but declined to provide any further information.
It is obvious that the assailant was not a white male Christian or they would have blazoned it in the headline.
No comments allowed under the article: surprise, surprise!
Good morrow, gentlefolk. Today’s (recycled) story
THE POWER OF PRAYER 2
In a Tottenham church on Sunday morning a preacher said, “Anyone with ‘special needs’ who wants to be prayed over, please come forward in front of the altar.”
With that, Leroy got in line, and when it was his turn, the Preacher asked, “Leroy, what do you want me to pray about for you?”
Leroy replied, “Preacher, I need you to pray for help with my hearing.” The preacher put one of his fingers in Leroy’s ear, then he took his other hand and placed it on top of Leroy’s head; and then he prayed and prayed and eventually the whole congregation joined in with great enthusiasm.
After a few minutes, the preacher removed his hands, stood back and asked, “Leroy, how is your hearing now?”
Leroy answered, “I don’t know. It ain’t ’til Thursday.” </spoiler
Good morning, all. Grey and foggy (outdoors, too).
Brought a smile to my face…..
https://twitter.com/i/status/1762357163693862934
Guards to patrol MPs’ events in £31m security drive in wake of anti-Semitic attacks. 28 February 2024.
Security guards are to be deployed at events held by MPs as part of a £31 million drive to protect politicians amid increased threats following the Israel-Hamas conflict.
MPs at risk will be able to use private security guards for constituency events or surgeries, in an announcement Home Secretary James Cleverly pledged would “safeguard the people, processes and institutions upon which our democracy relies”.
Our Democracy has joined Special Relationship in my Lexicon of Lies. It omits to tell you here for example that though the guards will be private the peasants will be paying for them and that you will not be getting any!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/02/28/guards-patrol-mp-events-31m-security-drive-anti-semitism/
Better the buggers that promoted the trouble feel it themselves rather than hiding behind security. Maybe they shouldn’t have encouraged all the worlds scum to come to live in the West? Just a thought.
The rest of us don’t get protection. We have to fend for ourselves, but without somebody else to pay for protection.
Edit: Spolling
MPs voting themselves protection from islam on public funds, while at the same time going along with the official narrative that muslims are victims and the ‘far right’ is a real threat.
This hypocrisy can’t be allowed to continue.
It’s just getting completely ridiculous. This cannot be ignored any longer.
Every man and his dog knows what Islam is trying to do to our country.
It’s got to be stopped.
Not all of us brits can move to Spain Portugal and France.
Rural areas are generally far better.- in France as well as in Britain.
Brittany is rural but Rennes – 50 miles south of where we live – is already polluted by culturally alien immigration.
I live in a fairly rural area but I see slammers in towns. Even here in the sticks is not safe.
BTL comments hint at a lack of sympathy.
“……..This hypocrisy can’t be allowed to continue.”
You’re right but it will..
Will those “private” security guards be armed?? because they’re of very limited use if they’re not…………
I read ex-SAS are already guarding some MP’s
Sad Khanage is always escorted by armed policemen when out and about
The right of self defence another right for them but heaven forfend the hoi-polloi should have the same rights………….
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‘Morning Minty
Good morning, chums. Stayed up late last night and overslept this morning. Now I’m off to Wordle,
Wordle 984 4/6
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Exhausted – going back for a few zeds.
I wish I could do the same, Sir Jasper. Maybe later. (Good morning, btw.)
LATER: After doing a bit of urgent shopping for a neighbour I finally decided to go back to bed for a short while until 11 am. I woke up at 2 pm! Now enjoying a cuppa before getting out into the garden for an hour to do a little more weeding. I obviously needed the Zeds but I think it will be an effort to get to sleep tonight.
#metoo.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/487136804e69f67a5f5b7d9d503a3ad57433004ac403a81ae225946a6f95a35a.png The logo on this photograph, from this morning’s DT, labels the device as a ‘specialist’ boring machine. Really? What other uses would it have? I used to work for the company that, for over a century, were the world leaders in manufacturing such ‘specialist’ units.
Is it ‘specialist’ in the same manner that a teapot is a ‘specialist’ means of mashing tea; a Rubber Johnny is a ‘specialist’ method of preventing pregnancies; or a bed is a ‘specialist’ device for sleeping and shagging on?
These ‘specialism’ tendencies could become a cult.
Good morning, Grizzly. I thought it was a specialist machine for making mincemeat of the man giving a demonstration at the top of the photo. Or perhaps for scalping the woman (?) with a long ponytail at the front of the photo.
Good morning, Auntie Elsie.
‘Mincemeat’? Is that a term pooftahs use when they’re on the pull?🤣
I agree it’s just all so boring!
Morning Grizz and all…
I dislike drill rap intensely…
Morning, SR. These devices were invariably known as Moles when we made them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTvpKkIdPIs
Is that because there was a certain amount of blind faith that when two started from opposite ends they would eventually meet exactly at the right spot?
and if they didn’t you got 2 tunnels for the price of one
Talking of moles our garden is overrun by the blighters – we have tried without success to get rid of them but none of the numerous methods of getting rid of them work for us.
The problem is that while you consider it to be your garden, the moles know that it is their garden.
I don’t think so, Grizzly. Molars are what I have in my mouth for chomping on my food at mealtimes.
You are very nearly correct, Auntie Elsie, but your molars are for grinding food, not ‘chomping’ it. Your incisors are for cutting through the food (i.e ‘chomping’ it), your canines are for shredding it and your premolars are for chewing it.
This column’s erstwhile fang-wrangler, PtV, will concur with this.😉
Moley holey you could be right.
Possible a use for it in Westminster.
To replace the specialist boring machinery already installed.
A specialist and very boring pedantry machine. {:^))
G’day all and the 77th,
Drizzly start at McPhee Towers, wind SSW, 6℃ warming to 10℃. by this evening – with the next band of rain.
Here is the catalyst for serious civil unrest in Britain if it comes to pass after the general election.
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/27/islamophobia-is-todays-blasphemy-wrong-speak-criminalised/
The tone of BTL comments would seem to indicate so.
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Does anyone disagree?
If the holder of the placard truly believes what is written on it, he/she is an idiot.
“Peace and love is Islam. And those that deny it will be killed!”
We come in peace – shoot to kill!
Good morning FM,
The rise and rise of sectarian politics is with us again .
We all remember the birth of the troubles in N Ireland , Liverpool sectarianism and football nonsense in Scotland .
It is so alarming to think we are going down that route again . We SHOULD be very fearful , and especially so if Labour come to power .
The glittering prize will be theirs . It is possible for a party to win with a largely ethnic or religious appeal.
https://thecritic.co.uk/the-rise-and-rise-of-sectarian-politics/
Is that a heart that’s been ripped out of a kefir’s warm corpse?
An example of the grip, reach and selectiveness of islam?
A couple of weeks ago I was at a social evening organised by a club of which I am a member. Attendees take their food and drink of choice and I chose, amongst other items, to take some sausage rolls that I’d made. On offering one to a woman on our table she declined, claiming to be a moselm and therefore not allowed to eat pork. I shrugged my shoulders and got on with listening to the music.
Later, I learned from an acquaintance, that many years ago the woman who had spurned my offer of a delicious 😇 home-made sausage roll had married a Turk and had moved to Turkey and lived there for a decade or so. I don’t know, nor care to know, whether she remains a practising member of that particular lifestyle but she was at an event where western music was being played and people, including this woman, were dancing and enjoying themselves. Now, I thought that western music/dancing was, as is pork, haram to practising moslems.
She could, of course, have merely declined my offer instead of making her particular point.
But was she a jazz muslim or a rock & roll muslim?
Music is haram to true believers.
She was pulling your leg.
Live singer performing pop music from the late 50s up to the 70s-80s with a country and western theme. Not really my choice but better than a disco. We’ve had a couple of good live bands and a rubbish one in the last year or so. She attends most events.
I trust she was veiled…
In the marina at Marmaris we met a very agreeable Turkish Muslim whose father had been the ambassador in Paris and who had been educated at a lycée in Paris and at university in the USA.
Ali used to sail over to Simi or Rhodes in order to restock his boat’s stores with whisky, gin, wine and pork.
He was what I call a CofE Muslim – he was nominally a Muslim but did not take his religion too seriously just as many people in the CofE are nominally Christian but don’t let their stated religion rule their lives!
Not on this site, Fiscal.
Reposted from late last night:
Wednesday 28th February, 2024
Jeremy Morfey
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and very many joyous returns of the day
Keep on singing and making perfect harmonies!
With best wishes,
Caroline and Rastus
Many happy returns, Jeremy Morfey!
Happy Birthday Jeremy and of course have 365 (just) Happy Unbirthdays, til the next one
366 this year.
Edit – you were one ahead of me here – of course next and last year, I had only 364 Unbirthdays!
And a Happy Birthday from me, Sir!
366 this year.
Edit – you were one ahead of me here – of course next and last year, I had only 364 Unbirthdays!
Happy Birthday Jeremy
🎶Happy Birthday to you JM🎶 🥂🍾 have a lovely day.
Happy birthday Jeremy
Wow , a youngster , as we all were when we first started contributing to Nottler. https://media4.giphy.com/media/3oD3YLAhcFJjgSTPX2/giphy-downsized-small.mp4
Mine is already attracting little fruit flies. I suppose we all get that way eventually.
Happy birthday, Jeremy! Hope it’s the best one yet!
Happy Birthday.
You, Youngster, You ……..
Many thanks to all for my birthday greetings! Today is also the half-centenary of me voting, having had a general election on my 18th birthday.
I have a choir rehearsal tonight, preparing a set of Eastern European music for a new organ that has been installed in Pershore Abbey, singing in Czech, Russian and Latin, but the M.D. bottled out of the Hungarian, so we are doing Jesus with the Traders in the Temple in English.
Otherwise, I am on my own pondering the housework that is piling up and will take all the springs I have left to make a dent into. My mother says I need a wife to sort out my cottage, but then she is 98 and of a generation when women did not feel offended by such a suggestion. My “wife” is Henry II, a plastic lump of tech with a smiley face. When Henry gets bolshie with the grime, then Henry III is in the shed waiting – bought before the EU reduced the suckery.
I think I’ll celebrate with a carvery in a pub over the river I went to last year, and then sleep it off. Right now, I am playing trees, having pulled down the honeysuckle swallowing up a pear tree, and now to be laid across an arch I built by the gate by tying together a hazel and a bay.
Grattis på födelsedagen, jM. Hope it’s a good ‘un.👍🏻
🎶Happy Birthday, Jeremy! Have a grand ☀️day! 🎉🥂🍾🍰🎉🎂🍷🎈🎉
I hate my job on the checkouts at a supermarket. It’s just one thing after another.
Good morning, all. Overcast last time I looked, around 06:30, with the patio showing signs of earlier light rain.
JRM coming late to the table and Bob Moran calling him out on another self-administered threat created by one, some or all of of the following predispositions that infect the political class: ideologically driven, inept, corrupt, lazy or uninterested in anything other than their position, salary, and of course, expenses.
https://twitter.com/bobscartoons/status/1762515021098049550
Whatever they may claim to be or believe in, it’s clear from the state the nation finds itself in, is that 650 elected representatives over recent decades have been in lock-step when it comes to making a balls-up of running the UK.
Other major problems these cretins have created: Net Zero and its implications, seemingly all-powerful mayors of major cities, crumbling infrastructure, HS2, criminal activity unchecked etc. etc.
On the horizon, food shortages as the attack on farms and farmers is intensified. Which MP of the 650 will be the first to bleat when the shit is, as near as makes no difference to the outcome, close to hitting the fan blades?
384009+ up ticks,
Morning KtK,
I do second everything in your post but I see it as the same sentiments being repeated these past near four decades.
Morning all 🙂😊
Three words to describe the weather, grey, fog, wet.
Three words to describe our politicians Absolutely King Useless.
Have a nice day.
Overcast, dry, chilly up here.
I keep seeing forecasts telling us we are going to have at least six inches of snow next month. How can this happen? Poor old Sir Dave has dedicated his later years to Climate Change. In every other paragraph he mentions it.
38009+ up ticks,
Morning Each,
Wednesday 28 February: Don’t blame baby boomers for politicians’ mismanagement of housing.
Baby Boomers 1946 / 1960 the remnants of real man / womanhood still reeling from a war protecting democracy and the home front.
Currently they can and are blamed for the state of these Isles today, via the thick as ox shit,
very dangerous, destructive, treacherous politico’s along with their hard core indigenous following minions.
Baby boomers AKA “the workforce” constructed a decent nation out of a damaged
battered nation,unified in their intent to rebuild a nation fit to raise a family in, and they succeeded in the extreme.
Those were the days / years of decency and self respect, and rationing until 1953.
Today we have the complete reverse, and in the main, as the voting pattern shows that is the requirements of the voters, decade on decade of deep shite governing factors pursuing a foreign criminal agenda.
Truly harvest time is with us and we are reaping what has been…….
Lazy American terminology creeping in again.
It is fashionable to lump in everyone born between the war and the 1960s as “boomers” because America did indeed have a baby boom throughout the 1950s. In Britain, however, there were two peaks with a slump in the mid-1950s – the time when I was born.
The post-war boom, who are now all retired, were the Beatles generation, the 1960s hedonists and student protesters who never had it so good, and much maligned by the generation that had lived through the Blitz and then sacrificed so much during rationing to rebuild.
Those born in the 1960s, contemporaries of Boris Johnson and David Cameron, grew up in the Thatcher era of materialism and upward mobility, where there was no such thing as society and the undeserving poor were just a nuisance and probably lazy and good-for-nothing, whatever the cause of their poverty.
Few consider the relatively few numbers born in the 1950s, who missed the Summer of Love, were too young for Vietnam, but hit the oil crisis and the subsequent inflation and recession head-on. My generation were all too aware that things that our elders took for granted (and so too the Thatcher generation) were running out and what remained needed to be conserved rather than wasted.
I celebrate today half a century of voting in a general election, yet what I have got to show for it?
Why should I be lumped in with the other two groups with the blanket term “boomers”?
Happy Birthday, jeremy! Have a great day! 🎂🥂🎉🍷
Happy Birthday! I too was born in the mid-50s. The yuppies of the Thatcher era were really upper middle class types who already had a head start. Social mobility died with the grammar schools.
Happy Birthday !
Many happy returns! You’ll be hard put to find someone decent to vote for these days.
Good Moaning.
A plea. I have lost the cartoon of the Chihuahua mirrored as a lion in a puddle. Could whoever posted it, please post it again.
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Nope.
I can find cats looking in puddles and seeing lions but not chihuahuas.
I think some one had doctored the pike.
Drat and double drat. Looks like I was too efficient. That’ll teach me to keep my laptop clear.
Corker of an article in TCW.
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/an-open-letter-to-mps-you-reap-what-you-sow/
Chances Grifters and Cowards.
Well that hits the proverbial nail right on the head.
And I hope it hurts.
………………..and read this one from the MSM:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/27/the-economic-case-for-mass-migration-has-finally-collapsed/?li_source=LI&li_medium=for_you
Good Morning, all
Dweeb
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Sadly he won’t see that.
Good morrow good people!
And a belated start this morning, I just did not want to get out of bed!!
A dry and overcast start with little wind and a tad above 0°C.
An X-Tw@ter post to Lee Anderson:-
https://twitter.com/BeardedBob7282/status/1762761772803543313
Let’s face the facts, these horrible vile creatures carry out these disgusting appalling acts on children because they know they will get away with it.
Because of our futile weaknesses and because of who they are.
Stand up straight and be counted you useless politicos. Oh you did, all nine of you.
‘Morning All
Medley
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And all so true.
Lee Anderson for PM.
One of very few politicians who speaks the truth.
Yet the media and political class so desperately want to keep the attention on the man, not the ball. None of them are prepared to discuss massive, uncontrolled muslim invasion. Not one.
And that is the reason why they are taking advantage of the lack of commitment to our established laws, that have protected our society for hundreds of years and has made it attractive to overseas visitors.
I think the state would be far happier just for those to go away and heir ‘new order’ to be the only one.
A man of integrity.
At least he’s honest.
Excellent comment that, by Thomas Sowell.
You can find him on You Tube. Well worth listening to.
Well,well well
First Van Tam to Moderna and now………..
https://twitter.com/MarkMasonDream/status/1762459129296089305?s=20
https://twitter.com/freddiesayers/status/1762451489472028787?t=LxU6or-CUZb77jZAiTqK_A&s=19
Rats deserting a sinking ship………..
Medicines regulator failed to flag Covid vaccine side effects and must be investigated, say MPs
All-party group believe MHRA were aware of heart and clotting issues
in February 2021 but did not highlight the problems for several months
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/27/mhra-covid-vaccine-side-effects-mps-all-party-parliamentary/
“You can’t hide the pile of bodies from excess deaths for ever” (The ONS is giving it a good try though)
https://www.sgtreport.com/2024/02/you-cant-hide-the-dead-bodies-edward-dowd-testifies-on-excess-deaths/
A fellow Nottler posted a short video of Katie Hopkins explaining that they have adopted a new way of counting unexpected and unexplained deaths in order to make the numbers seem less horrific.
“Truth’s a dog must to kennel; he must be whipped out …”
[King Lear]
Does a single day pass without our being sprayed by a shower of lies from the PTB and the MSM?
That seems pretty accurate ……… Oh … Institute.
Must go to Specsavers.
Now we know who was pulling his strings and this is his reward.
Politics latest news: Tories ‘tearing themselves to pieces’ over Lee Anderson row, says Nigel Farage
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/02/28/rishi-sunak-latest-news-tories-lee-anderson-farage-reform/
A thread of BTL comments:
Richard Tracey
Is it racist to criticise Christianity?
Is it racist to criticise Judaism?
Is it racist to criticise Buddhism?
Is it racist to criticise Hinduism? Is it racist to criticise Pantheism or Zoroastrianism?
We do not have blasphemy laws in the UK and we are free to say what we like about religions so why should Islam say that any criticism of it is racist? There are Christians, Jews and Muslims of assorted races and colours.
Reply to Richard Tracey by Steven Young.
But if you criticise the Jewish politicians or their actions you are immediately jumped on and classed as Anti-Semitic.
Reply to Richard Tracey by Arthur Dent.
True but people often use religious criticism to mask racism.
Vast majority of Muslims are of a different race.
Reply to Arthur Dent and Steven Young by Richard Tracey
I am a white Christian – is a white Muslim a different race to me? Is a black Muslim a different race to a white Muslim, an oriental Muslim or a Semitic Muslim.
Confusing race with religion is an old trick and it is high time people saw that it is a trick designed to create confusion and muddy the waters.
‘Race’ is a subjective term. We are all (at least, most of us) part of the human race. Whatever their traits, all breeds of dog are classified as Canis familiaris. For consistency one should use the word ‘breed’ rather than ‘race’ to describe variations in the outer appearance of human beings.
As the usurping Scottish king in Shakespeare’s play said to the nasty looking group of murderers he had employed to murder Banquo:
Ay, in the catalogue ye go for men,
As hounds and greyhounds, mongrels, spaniels, curs,
Shoughs, water-rugs, and demi-wolves are clept
All by the name of dogs.
Most of other people are silly breeders.
Have there been any terrorist attacks in Britain by Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Rastafarians? Yet most of the adherents of those religions are of different races, and not of the indigenous British. Racism used to be (and still is sometimes) used as a defence by Muslims against criticism of Islam. Use of the term ‘Islamophobia’ is now the preferred silencing mechanism.
Have there been any terrorist attacks in Britain by Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Rastafarians? Yet most of the adherents of those religions are of different races, and not of the indigenous British. Racism used to be (and still is sometimes) used as a defence by Muslims against criticism of Islam. Use of the term ‘Islamophobia’ is now the preferred silencing mechanism.
I remember having a conversation with an Irish student who could not be persuaded that being anti-Protestant was not racist. There was no way I could convince him that RC or Protestantism was a religion, not a race.
How Western boots on the ground in Ukraine could play out. 28 February 2024.
Nato allies swiftly closed ranks when Emmanuel Macron said what you are really not supposed to say.
His comments suggesting there could be “boots on the ground” in Ukraine broke a golden rule of not provoking Moscow.
The remarks triggered a predictable row about escalation. But troops in Ukraine don’t have to trigger a nuclear conflict.
Since the decision would be Putin’s you know this how? One of the surprises of this war is that it has not yet expanded. Vlad has ignored the vast materiel and military aid input into Ukraine which is the main reason that it is still going. I don’t think that he could realistically accept changes that might alter the end result.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/02/27/analysis-how-western-boots-in-ukraine-could-play-out/
The great tragedy and the great cruelty is that Ukraine would have secured a far better agreement with Putin before the war started.
The decision of Johnson and Biden to offer support to encourage and corrupt Zelensky to go to war with Russia was evil.
Maybe the Eastern region could have been given more autonomy and with the passage of time, people in the region could have moved political allegiance towards Russia or Europe. But it seems that death and destruction were the chosen route, an absolute tragedy for both sides.
The route was chosen by the Right wing Ukrainian political establishment, Nazis, literally. Blame is entirely on them, not Russia. The Russians would have even left the Russian areas of Ukraine alone if it had not been for the persecution of Russian speakers in those areas by Ukraine. The Ukrainian regime even went so far as to declare Russian an illegitimate language.
Yet, as a Polish friend of mine readily admitted, Ukranian is just a dialect of Russian.
The route was “encouraged” by the US and GB. Or, rather, egged on.
The route was chosen by the Right wing Ukrainian political establishment, Nazis, literally. Blame is entirely on them, not Russia. The Russians would have even left the Russian areas of Ukraine alone if it had not been for the persecution of Russian speakers in those areas by Ukraine who even went so far as to declare Russian an illegitimate language.
It is no surprise to me that this war has not expanded. I have said before that Russians say what they mean, no more and no less. It is built into the culture. They will not, for example give you a big smile and a glad to see you, if they are not. No false bonhomie, like Americans. So, when Putin said he had no intention of having this war spread and it was simply his intention to protect Russia from the predation of the West, he meant it, in the same way that everything he has said throughout this conflict, that is verifiable , turned out to be true. Unfortunately people in the West still live, psychologically, in the Soviet era when deceit and dishonesty were the norm. But let me remind you that Communism is a Western invention foisted on the Russians by people mostly educated in the West. Communists lie but true Russians are very straightforward. I’f you met my aunts Antoinette, or Camilla,, you would know within a couple of minutes, unless you were exceptionally dim witted, whether they liked you or not. And to any questio0n they would give you a blunt answer.
384009+ up ticks,
May one ask,
Is it monies well spent, when regarding the
£31 million protection package for the political overseers, macabre laughter with the ladder being pulled up on their supporting minions.
Having gripped the rabid tiger ( importation of criminals / terrorism)firmly by the tail they now find the rabid tiger wants a piece of their pin stripe clad arses.
The princess of horror HH suggest’s they could, the political overseers, work from home.
Glad to hear that MPs will be safe, slammer problem solved then.
384009+ up ticks,
Morning KP,
Only for a short while, once they give a lift to the alien enemas from the river to the sea, they in turn will be devoured.
New Zealand repeals world-first ban on young people ever being able to buy cigarettes
The law, due to come into effect in July, would have prevented anyone born after 1 January 2009 from buying tobacco products.
Tuesday 27 February 2024 11:59, UK
Why you can trust Sky News
New Zealand is today repealing what would have been a world-first ban on young people ever being able to buy cigarettes.
The law, due to come into effect in July, would have prevented anyone born after 1 January 2009 from buying tobacco products.
It would have also cut nicotine content in tobacco products and reduced the number of retailers by more than 90%.
But New Zealand’s new coalition government has now confirmed the toughest anti-tobacco measures in the world are being revoked.
Prime Minister Rishi Sunak also has similar plans and previously said that the New Zealand U-turn would not change his mind.
The change in position in New Zealand comes after a new coalition deal ended six weeks of negotiations following the general election on 14 October last year.
The election saw the country shift to the right, with a win for the Conservative National Party under Christopher Luxon ending six years of a Labour government.
Under New Zealand’s proportional voting system, parties typically need to form alliances to command a governing majority.
The government’s associate health minister Casey Costello said the coalition is committed to reducing smoking, but it is taking a different regulatory approach to discourage the habit and reduce harm caused.
The law, due to come into effect in July, would have prevented anyone born after 1 January 2009 from buying tobacco products – no it wouldn’t, it would just have made it a criminal act. After all, possession of unlicenced firearms has been “prevented” for years, but how’s the armed crime figures going again?
There should be no place for these dictators.
Michael Tomlinson, the minister for illegal migration,
I thought we had enough people entering illegally, without the need of a Minister for them.
The real problem, is that this chappie will break the Ministerial Code.
Get a Cabinet Seat; Cock Up the area you have been ‘put in charge of’
He will make sure numbers increase, they are housed, fed, mollycoddled and free to be Anti-Zionist
I despair
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/02/27/lee-anderson-comments-michael-tomlinson-nick-ferrari-lbc/
Niall Gooch
Lee Anderson is a convenient distraction
27 February 2024, 12:07pm
If some great challenge or difficulty is looming in the near future, it is human nature to want to change the subject, to busy ourselves with displacement activity to avoid the confrontation. This is perhaps even more true of groups than individuals. Everybody might be aware on some level that a crisis is brewing, but being the first to speak out is hard. Often we prefer calm and superficial harmony to dealing with the truth.
Studied indifference to the elephant in the room has been the order of the day across much of the British political class during the last week or so. Last Wednesday saw extraordinary events in the House of Commons, as long-standing conventions were overturned, allegedly because of threats made to the safety of Labour MPs. Since then we have had an enormous amount of discussion and debate, most of which has actively and specifically avoided the main source of the growing undercurrents of sectarian violence in our politics.
The Prime Minister’s statement on Wednesday’s events did not mention Islamist extremism. Over the weekend the BBC and other large mainstream news outlets focused not so much on the threat to British democracy that had been exposed, as they did on the threat of ‘Islamophobia’, by which they meant that the favourite chattering class punchbag Lee Anderson had said Islamists had control of Sadiq Khan.
As of Monday evening, the BBC News website was still leading with ‘Anderson refuses to apologise for Islamist claim’, a story that they have been pushing constantly for several days. Curiously enough there has been no substantial BBC investigation into who exactly has been threatening which MPs and the ideology of the aggressors. Instead, we have had lots of both-sides handwringing – with MPs discussing the ‘far right’ again. The most frequent reference point is the assassination of Jo Cox in 2016 by a man who was motivated by arch-nationalist beliefs. The most recent murder of an MP – that of Sir David Amess, killed by a jihadist in 2021 – is mentioned rather less often.
Similarly, we hear little now about recent mass casualty terror attacks by Islamic terrorists: the Manchester Arena suicide bombing (22 dead) and the 2017 London Bridge rampage (8 dead). The regular and intimidating anti-Israel protests that have taken place regularly in London for four months now, and the harassment faced by MPs from partisan crowds heavily invested in the Israel-Palestine conflict, also seem to have slipped the minds of sensible centrists now that a Conservative has said some bad words. Their new preoccupation is Rishi Sunak’s supposed failure to visit a mosque since becoming Prime Minister.
Fretting about anti-Muslim bigotry, and making vague allusions to the growth of non-specific ‘threats’ and ‘violence’, suits the political class very nicely. Once again they get to stay in their intellectual comfort zone, posturing as the defenders of nice liberal tolerance against imaginary hordes of white supremacist yahoos, while not having to confront any of the hard dilemmas of contemporary policy-making. They seem untroubled by any serious consideration of the trade-offs around security, multiculturalism, mass immigration, law and order, and social cohesion. To them, public anger at terrorism, intimidation and the authorities’ feeble approach to grooming gangs and local corruption is largely a PR problem, to be managed with candlelit vigils and sentimental hashtags, rather than a reasonable and healthy reaction to the deterioration of the British social fabric.
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OhAndAnotherThing
21 hours ago edited
“Lee Anderson is a convenient distraction”
Indeed. But try telling that to your editor Fraser Nelson, who – predictably for a closet leftist – joined in the pile-on against Anderson deliberately to deflect attention away from the genuine threat to this country – the sinister and corrosive impact of Islamist anti-Semites and their Labour allies upon our crumbling democracy.
Our progressive and elitist establishment appear to have imposed a virtual news blackout on the issue, and our effete and complicit Fourth Estate obediently fell into line, just as they did in respect of the decades-long grooming scandals.
Clearly no lessons have been learned from that appalling dereliction of duty.
Anthony Declan
19 hours ago edited
Laura Kuenssberg wrote a piece the other day for the BBC purporting to be about these issues. Except she didn’t. Predictably, it was all about the “far right” and Jo Cox. Not a word about Islamist violence, nor even a mention of the late Sir David Amess MP, Sir Salman Rushdie, Mike Freer MP and so on. Despicable misinformation. Do they think we are all dumb?
Bill Rogers
21 hours ago
Exactly right. Convenient for every liberal navel-gazer who ignores the threat, refuses to name it, and is happy to watch Britain slide down the sink. Convenient for the BBC and the Times, the Telegraph and Fraser Nelson, not to mention the Tory party. They want Anderson to apologise for telling the truth – and then they can return to watching Khan reduce London to a crime-infested ghetto
I don’t recall this mealy-mouthed approach when the IRA was blowing us all up. It was “The Irish ” this and “The Irish” that – why so sensitive now? Islam isn’t an indication of skin colour – my white English mate from Loughborough converted some years ago and married a lovely Malay lady who followed Islam.
There are also millions of white Muslims in the Balkans and Russia. Remember Sarajevo? Most people have short memories apparently. The idea that disliking Islam is racist is demonstrably false.
Most people have a fear of islam, now why is that.?
I have no idea Johnny. After all it is the religion of peace!………..The peace of the dead.
The Serbs have a centuries-old hatred of Islam. This is considered unacceptable.
Some Irish have a centuries-old hatred of Britain. This is considered ‘understandable’.
It’s perfectly understandable when you know about the kidnapping of children to be brainwashed and used as Janissaries by the Turks and the men and women enslaved by the same Ottomans, the latter to be used as sex slaves. But, of course, now a days we do not mention white slavery. Galley slaves were almost inevitably white, using human beings in that manner was torture pure and simple. Forced to urinate and defecate where you sat, crawling with maggots and flies, riddled with disease and forced to row until you dropped, them thrown overboard like rubbish. But we must pretend that we whites exclusively are the guilty party.
“Studied indifference to the elephant in the room has been the order of the day across much of the British political class during the last week or so.” The last week or so? It’s been going on for YEARS!
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“Studied indifference to the elephant in the room has been the order of the day across much of the British political class during the last week or so.” The last week or so? It’s been going on for YEARS!
Edited to remove unwanted line breaks.
At the bidding of the MR I watched the first part of a Channel 4 prog called “The Jury“. It is allegedly the reconstruction of a murder trial. There are two “juries” (neither of which knows of the other) who observe the “trial”. The first day’s “proceedings” lasted 20 minutes…. Then we had a great deal of stuff with the “juries” – whose members were majority not white – (typical Colchester, I suppose) rabbiting on about what they had observed. Total bollocks. Juries do NOT sit about each evening discussing at length the case they are trying. They go home. The only time they pontificate is when they are sent out to consider their verdict. And barristers do NOT walk about the court in the way that American attorneys do. Grrr.
The MR wants to watch more. Don’t think I can face it.
It must be a trial for you.
The DT appears to have suddenly seen the light:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/27/the-economic-case-for-mass-migration-has-finally-collapsed/?li_source=LI&li_medium=for_you
Will anything be done, though? Answers on a postcard.
or on the back of a postage stamp
But, if you want a good spiff, we’re completely laid back with that ….
Oof
Oi Laffed
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Typical – the scum who caused the problems, either directly or by omission, now want protection from those problems, at the expense of the rest of us, who have no such luxury!
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2024/02/27/lady-gabriella-kingston-husband-thomas-kingston-died/
I know nothing about this poor chap but my first reaction was: “What was his Covid jab status? Was he a friend of Prince Harry’s? Cocaine or heroin?”
I sometimes think I have become too cynical!
Just what I thought, any sudden death my first thought is the scamdemic.
My wife plays the organ at funerals. She has played at far too many where the deceased was between the ages of 45 and 65, fit and active, and with no known previous illnesses and fully Covid jabbed.
Odd, that cliché “thoughts and prayers”. Everyone uses it these days.
When children die, they are always bright and popular.
So true, the school bully never dies young.
Death ‘not being treated as suspicious’ often points to suicide but we never know what is around the corner in terms of our health.
Found in Gloucesteri understand. I think that’s where his parent/s live.
“ I sometimes think I have become too cynical”. Getaway. I thought you’d been a bit slow!
Early yesterday afternoon, I went to the local Wethersponns with my grandson for a meal. Outside the pub, the was a police car, lights flashing, and two other parked cars. It turned out that someone had stolen 30 bottles of wine from Iceland, and had been trying to sell them outside the pub. Iceland, I should point out, is two shops away from the pub.
Even the quality of our petty criminals is in decline in broken Britain.
PS. Large mixed grill and a pint of San Miguel, £13.50.
Did you buy any of the wine?
Not with Surrey Plod about the place.
From the Philip Johnston article quoted below:
As many on here have said many times before, the ‘peaceful’ Muslim is either not really a Muslim at all, is too scared to speak out or tacitly approves of what is happening but is happy for others to make the ultimate sacrifice. There may be some real Muslims who disapprove of aggressive or violent tactics but only because it harms their peaceful takeover of the country, aided and abetted by the frightening rate of immigration and reproduction.
Also – after that attack, a poll among “peaceful, normal” slammers revealed a majority who thought that the attack was the right thing to do (though they wouldn’t do it themselves, oh no…)
The problem is that it is not the muslim on the Kabul omnibus that directs the direction of a society, it is the firebrands and activists. Germany in the 30s, Iran after the Shah, North Korea (Im sure the peasants are nice people), Uganda after Idi. The political movements are directed by the extremists and they do not allow anyone to interfere with their vision once in control. Just looking at what a small number of muslim activists can achieve in terms of political clout and societal change is a short time is frightening. Bestowing ‘protected characteristics’ on certain groups is milked to the full and is followed by accusations of all sorts of ..isms to keep criticism to a minimum. As with Germany, the political leadership and its institutions had to be destroyed or dismantled and killing civilians was accepted as collateral damage. Perhaps there is a established network of religious leaders and their sanctuaries that need looking at. Anyway, I’m off to set up my own religion. The Enlightened Deus League (EDL). I was visited by an angel last night after supping a few beers and have all the necessary scriptures noted down. If plod should come knocking on my door because of my unreasonable attitude to others and calling for war against other religions, I shall remind them that I have a protected characteristic which trumps all.
384009+ up ticks,
To bloody true, the threat of it today would leave many with a mental scar.
https://x.com/miss_anthrop75/status/1762751045069918288?s=20
At one time or another my parents hit me with every one of those implements, and more besides.
I think my mum used only her hand or a slipper.
384009+ up ticks,
Morning S,
Same as that.
My donkey was never beaten by one of those.
But my arse was though!
Beaten by a mule perhaps?
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Bottom rail of an old coathanger actually.
Slippers,. rulers, and one thing missing, chalk to hurl and someones head at full force. All remind me of teachers that I have had. I remember with fondness the geography teacher who was a slipper man. He would put on National Geographic film with a particular emphasis on semi naked natives and regale us with boisterous remarks about tits, large small and perky. Now a days he would be fired immediately for sexual something or other. Us boys loved him.
384009+ up ticks,
The Tories have one shot at fixing our housing crisis
By ending the leasehold rip off, the party could help beleaguered tenants – and woo younger voters
Maybe so, maybe so, but a sure fired way of keeping themselves in power and solving the housing, education, medication, incarceration
odious issues, is MASS deportation, no incoming migration.
No more / no less.
384 009+ up ticks,
Here’s your chance to shine on the front line United Kingdom politico’s, lead from the front.
https://x.com/UnityNewsNet/status/1762800343149056054?s=20
Ahem….
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Obviously not from a Pikey family otherwise the perps would have been found castrated and hung up by now.
https://twitter.com/0151republic/status/1762599239052390877
Poor wee lass.
I hope something awful befalls the perp.
It is claimed that the perpetrators were 3 Roma men.
https://www.noticer.news/kildare-ireland-girl-raped-roma-men-migrant-centre-protests/
Can anyone figure out what they are chanting? It sounds like ‘Peequy day’, to me. Something tells me I have it wrong.
Paedophiles out!
As far as I can make out.
Thank you Mol. Now you say it I can make it out.
That will help things along. The Irish are already on fire about Immigration!
No less heinous, of course, but a conflicting report tells us the victim was not Irish
https://www.noticer.news/kildare-ireland-girl-raped-roma-men-migrant-centre-protests/
It’s interesting that the Gardai have not taken any action against the perpetrators.
It did make me think who the girl might be. I would expect most parents to be monitoring their seven year old children.
I see that JK Rowling has entered the Trans-women are men farrago*. As far as I can tell, like the majority of folk in these Islands, she thinks its a load of Cock and Balls….
(*/fəˈrɑgoʊ/ A farrago is a pile of odds and ends or a random assortment of stuff.)
Well Farrago were a security firm in the US of A.
But I understand of late one can’t completely bank on them….
Came in from the garden and found the local LibDum’s ‘Focus’ stuffed in to the letterbox. Usual “everybody’s at fault except us” but one short piece caught my eye:
First thought, why is the government funding potholes? 🙄
Second thought, I doubt that Essex County Council could manage decline any better than they manage most of the assets they are responsible for.
Remember lockdown?
Moh and I during the exercise hour we were all allocated , (because there were Covid patrols in the village ) We used to speed walk around the village a couple of circular miles .. on uneven pavements and sometimes the road .
I stumbled and messed my rt hip up, fine , NOT , so my doctor prescribed pain killers which upset my stomach, then over the course of that lockdown period , my left knee became a problem .. because of my hip being under strain ..
Moh and I were great walkers , . I walk everyday , try to achieve 10,000 steps but often or not 6,000 , at least I am moving .
Ascending our stairs is a nightmare .. or any stairs anywhere else .. and walking on country walks , stoney paths etc has really slowed me down .
The roads are appalling , especially the B roads ..
Alf and I took absolutely no notice of all the ridiculous rules, including only exercising for an hour. Mind you, as far as I’m aware there were no “patrols” around here.
No patrols here either. Though one woman did get a bit hysterical when i walked by her in the supermarket. Apparently i was ignoring the one way system. *slaps wrist
It’s laughable, isn’t it. And still some places have the footprints in each direction. The number of people who stepped into the road when we approached them, sometimes without checking to see if a car/lorry was coming behind them, was mad. We used to have a jolly good laugh about them.
It is scary though that peoples behaviour could so easily be adjusted. Project fear worked for a lot of them.
As i wended my way around the supermarket i noticed this woman at the end of each aisle watching me.
You know what i am like for pranking people but i resisted the urge in creeping up behind her and saying BOO ! Probably would have had a heart attack.
Some people are still afraid to leave the house.
Came in from the garden and found the local LibDum’s ‘Focus’ stuffed in to the letterbox. Usual “everybody’s at fault except us” but one short piece caught my eye:
First thought, why is the government funding potholes? 🙄
Second thought, I doubt that Essex County Council could manage decline any better than they manage most of the assets they are responsible for.
It is said that one buys a boat there is an element of sunk costs involved
sooner or later. A walk along a stretch of the River Avon this morning gave rise to an example of what this actually means….
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Torpedoed
Unlikely there have been any reports of Subs lately. Two possibilities a leaky stern gland or the hull has rusted through….
I’ve often worried about your stern glands, Stephen.
Well they can be a bugger unless you grease them properly…..!
I expect there is a special tool for that.
Rather unimaginatively it’s called a Stern Gland Greaser!
Does it have a slave gland?
That’ll be me!
Oh and I forgot to mention, whisper it quietly one should only use ‘White grease’…..
I went to Hull once. Just the once.
Hull and back?
I spent a year there, but I used to come home for weekends.
Unlikely there have been any reports of Subs lately. Two possibilities a leaky stern gland or the hull has rusted through….
I see a gas cylinder in the hatchway and is that a face in the submerged window?
I did wonder if the owner was still at home……
Are you certain it’s not a gimmegrant toilet?
Home for servicemen.
Officers’ quarters
Worth reading. Article in ‘The Free Press’
We Were Taught to Hate Jews
‘It’s like asking me how often I drink water. Antisemitism was everywhere.’ Apostates, former Islamists, and an almost-terrorist on how they changed their minds.
https://www.thefp.com/p/we-were-taught-to-hate-jews
“and I now run a nonprofit called Free Hearts Free Minds, which supports ex-Muslims”
Ex-Muslim has a nice ring to it, a bit like an ex-leper.
The rise and rise of sectarian politics is with us again.
Why are MPs so precious , with their security costing £30 million , and what about us .. because politicians have wrought / inflicted these blighters on us ..
We Did not ask to be diluted and put upon , we did not ask for our own security to be compromised .. all we wanted was an army and /Royal Navy to protect our Island interests.
Hundreds are arriving here on the the rubber boats today.
We have a corrupt home office and corrupt Serco or what ever they are called , and I expect Afghans will be used as an MP protection squad .
I feel so depressed and tearful .. My generation will soon be the only ones who remember how things were , as post war babies .
I am surprised there are any ex-muslims still alive, the penalty for apostasy being death.
A new sport is upon us – competing over whose bit of Britain is most broken
From DIY dentistry to pretending trans killers are born women, so much has gone wrong that one-downmanship seems like the answer
ALLISON PEARSON
28 February 2024 • 12:00pm
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/columnists/2024/02/27/TELEMMGLPICT000367266087_17090621163890_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpVlberWd9EgFPZtcLiMQf0Rf_Wk3V23H2268P_XkPxc.jpeg?imwidth=680
‘Our potholes are bigger than yours’: one way of dealing with Britain’s crumbling infastructure is to brag about it
We have now reached the rather amusing point in the history of this Government when ministers are trying to take the credit for reversing their own mistakes. Look on it as a sort of shameless Blue Peter variation: “Here’s one I cocked up earlier!”
I had to laugh when James Cleverly boasted on Twitter (now X) of the “biggest ever cut to net migration”. Numbers would be slashed by 300,000, he said proudly. Yes, Home Secretary, but that’s only because you broke the net migration record last year by admitting 745,000 net into the UK and, if you cut 300,000, that still leaves 445,000 coming in, which is over a quarter of a million more than the Tories promised in successive manifestos. James is now busy closing all the loopholes the Conservatives opened in the first place. Seriously, do they think we won’t notice?
To be fair, disillusion and a general sense of hopelessness are now so off the charts that a fresh horror to add to the list barely registers. On Tuesday, when JK Rowling tweeted, “I’m sick of this s—”, I thought, “Yes, me too” before even noticing which particular s— the Harry Potter author was sick of. There’s so much ordure to choose from, isn’t there?
It turned out that she meant the transgender psycho who filmed themselves strangling and liquidising a cat before killing a man called Jorge Martin Carrena. Clearly, it must have been a man who had the strength to choke Mr Carrena and push him into a river, but the court referred to Scarlet Blake as a woman because guidance for judges tells them to “respect” the gender identity of those who appear in court “regardless of whether they have obtained legal recognition of their gender by a Gender Recognition Certificate”.
JK Rowling was right to be furious. What possible respect is owed to a demented cat strangler and vicious murderer who may have used a feminine appearance to fool his victim yet still may get chalked up as a female killer (leading to the creation of misleading crime statistics)?
“This isn’t a woman. These are #NotOurCrimes,” Rowling tweeted. How any other view to hers became valid, let alone the settled practice of the judiciary, is hard to comprehend. The people holding sane, commonplace views are now routinely depicted as the mad ones.
One ingenious way of dealing with the feeling that the country is in a state of collapse, and that nothing works, has been suggested by a Planet Normal listener who styles himself Dave, the Window-Cleaning Prophet.
“I’m wondering if it’s just me,” emails Dave, “or are we all bragging about how crap our local services and crumbling infrastructure have become?” In the last six months, Dave says he has witnessed the British character “on top form all around me”, boasting about adversity where once we used to boast about achievement.
Examples may include:
“Our potholes are bigger than yours!” with proud jokes that one’s town should be twinned with the moon.
How long your wait-time was to get through to the GP surgery. “Twenty-five minutes? That’s nothing! I started at five to eight and was hanging on for 45 minutes before a recorded message told me to call back tomorrow.”
If you actually manage to get an appointment. “Mine is in three weeks’ time. On the phone.”
Adding insult to injury. “I got an offer of telephone physio.”
Competitive operation cancellations. “Because of the junior doctors’ strike, mine has just been cancelled for the third time.”
When you last received any post.
Cost of last energy bill notwithstanding alleged cap on prices.
Ambulance wait-times. “Oh you were LUCKY, that was quick! You do realise I actually died while lying on the drive.”
Burst mains flooding roads for weeks at a time.
Bitter laughter at any suggestion that you may get a dental appointment in the next year.
DIY dentistry – most painful examples. Cotton wrapped around molar, chewing gum for fillings, etc.
“I was asked if we kept getting power cuts by someone in the next village,” says Dave, “and I felt a bit deflated when I had to reply ‘No’. Sums it up really, Allison, when you have the perverse feeling that you’re missing out when things do actually work!”
Thanks for making me laugh Dave. At least our sense of humour is working, and still free. Well, until Labour gets in. Instead of one upmanship, I guess you could call this new trend one-downmanship. Do please send me your ways of coping with Broken Britain.
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I think Nottlers may be considered Veterans in this particular field, which have you noticed is completely overgrown with Rag Worst and Nott Weed!!!
Call those potholes? You could fit both of those pathetic attempts into one of our smaller Derbyshire potholes, with volume to spare!!
Here in Cornwall three young potholers have actually gone missing.
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BTL
Notwithstanding that A Allan chappie sticking his oar in…
Pete Smith
3 HRS AGO
The assertion that males can be women is insanity.
Those that make the assertion should be removed from Parliament and all other positions of responsibility; armed forces, police, education and healthcare.
The public have been subject to psychological warfare tactics, to condition them to passively accept everything that is done to them by government, and it has worked.
Politicians do not reflect the views of the voters, they push onto the voters agendas that are internationally agreed, and the details of which voters are unaware. Politicians are fundamentally restructuring society without the knowledge or consent of the masses.
Thomas Pain
2 HRS AGO
We have got rid of all the engineers and now have PR consultants. We have got rid of government and now have Quangos. We have got rid of defence and now have a channel taxi service. We have got rid of education and now have a certificate printing industry. We have got rid of women …….etc.
timothy cassel
2 HRS AGO
I really don’t think the politicians, hopeless as they are, are entirely to blame. What about the working from home left wing tofu eating Muslim loving civic servants who claim to run this country?
Clare Louise Coleman
34 MIN AGO
I think our changing vocabulary is a pretty good guide to modern life. Here is a short extract from my guide to euphemisms and non-words.
Community – ghetto
Vibrant and diverse community – noisy ghetto
Community school – out of control sink establishment
Inclusive – filled with nut-jobs
Offender – criminal
Vulnerable – criminal
Cis woman – woman
Trans woman – man
Gender – means whatever you want it to mean
#BeKind – #BeKindOrElse
Rosemary Led
40 MIN AGO
Strange how the courts are told to respect an evil man .This is the fundamental flaw in the human rights law.
That man deprived another person of their life, which is the ultimate in disrespect of the victim.
No civilized country should live by a rule that such a person deserves respect. It goes against natural justice.
If a prison officer misgenders this man in jail, no doubt he will be sacked.
Nathan Hobbs
1 HR AGO
I watched on GB News Patrick Christys Tonight last night, the accommodation that Army families are housed in. What an absolute disgrace! The ceiling was caving in and bricks were literally falling out of the walls. Totally dangerous to the children and wives of our armed forces heroes.
Meanwhile, illegal immigrants are housed in at least 4 star hotels, with clean bedding and 30 inch televisions. I donated £15 yesterday to a homeless veterans charity because I am literally horrified by how our homeless armed forces veterans are on the streets whist illegal immigrants come here and get treated like royalty, despite having never contributed to the country before. Shows you everything about broken Britain.
We seem to be in a race to the bottom Allison, with Britain going to hell in a handcart economically , morally, socially and culturally. However we do have to be optimistic in this dire situation we find ourselves in. I am a patriotic British 19 year old and I am voting Reform to try and save Britain.
Enough critical mass and we can start to turn the country back from the precipice.
Here’s a laugh (only hollow if you’re a rate-payer like me); Shropshire County is seriously in the red, but they have allocated up to £6.2 million for a consultancy to tell them where to make cuts! They could employ me on a fraction of that! I’d get rid of the diversity and inclusion lot, ditch the climate change department, stop translating everything into myriads of languages and end the provision of translators for a start. Then we’d look at all the other non-jobs.
It may seem crazy having a physio phone appointment, but that happened to me; the physio was supposed to be examining me by phone! Can you stand on one leg? What, with a phone in one hand and a piece of paper in the other?
It may seem crazy having a physio phone appointment, but that happened to me; the physio was supposed to be examining me by phone! Can you stand on one leg? What, with a phone in one hand and a piece of paper in the other?
Meanwhile the rapper Ja Rule, who was released from prison in May 2013 after serving two years on gun possession and tax evasion charges [source BBC], has been denied entry to Britain, apparently because of that criminal record. This despite the fact that he is due to start an 85% sold out tour this week, has served his prison sentence and it was 10 years ago. Personally I think all rap stars should be denied entry, but the rank hypocrisy of banning this one man when thousands of illegals are entering the country seems almost beyond belief. How many of those illegals have a criminal record? I presume we have no idea; if we do know, why aren’t they deported at once?
Don’t tell me – he’s white…..
I doubt we even know what nationality they are that arrive on the beaches let alone their criminal records.
If they have a criminal record, why are they allowed to enter the country in the first place?
Because sharing the record of their past crimes is against EU law, apparently!
Khan’s London reduced to this.
Diversity stinks!
https://twitter.com/juneslater17/status/1762467871454621711
Why is the sign in English?
If it was written in foreign for the muslims to understand it it’d be called racist.
Can they read anyway?
Here’s an interesting article that I stumbled across. The “Palestinian Intellectual” Edward Said claimed that he was born and raised in Jerusalem in a house that had belonged to his family forever and from which they’d been evicted by Jews who also destroyed his family business. It turns out that he was born and raised in Cairo and it was Nasser who forced his father out, thereby destroying their livelihood. Nothing to do with the Israelis at all.
https://jcpa.org/jl/vp422.htm
A slammer telling lies? Shome mishtake shurely…{:¬))
Next candidate for one of our new mayor’s ?
From the BBC;
“Monica Lewinsky signed as face of Reformation’s vote campaign”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68420543
Well, blow me!
The whole story sucks.
Oh! Come off it!
I’m reminded of the story of the Prosecutor who allegedly said: “Ms Lewinsky, did you LIE for your President?”
She replied: “No Sir, I knelt”.
In a blue dress, Mola mola ?
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I can’t see Mola in a blue dress…but these days you never know….
Monica wore a blue dress , didn’t she?
Yes, but I understand she allegedly tried to take Bill to the cleaners rather than the dress….
Blue’s not my colour.
What colour dress does suit you?
Ooh, suits you, Sir!
Cor, look at the gob on her?
Give that man a cigar!
She’s not the best interpreter of written English, she made a bit of a hack of Clinton’s desk memo.
“Hold my calls and sack the cook”.
Watch my lips.
When confronted with the facts, lie, lie, lie. And lie again.
https://x.com/LozzaFox/status/1762745601245024335?s=20
No other way to describe him, He is the ultimate lying turd.
Shame they didn’t include another crime, election fraud.
“Don’t bother me with facts – my mind is made up!”
He’s a liar. Khan is a habitual crook. It’s almost reflexive. He lies to himself, he lies to others, he refuses to accept the truth. He is the epitome of everything wrong with this country.
A congenital liar = just another muzzie.
As that great old TV programme descibed
“Never Mind The Quality, Feel The Width”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_Mind_the_Quality,_Feel_the_Width
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/28/cardiff-farmers-protest-live-latest-updates/
Of course, we could easily ignore this nonsense. That we don’t is because of the climate change act. EU law written in and enforced. Oh, and it’s made worse by net zero legislation, which is just even more appalling EU law adopted specifically by May to ensure this country can never be a competitor to the hated EU ever again.
And while on the subject of clichés – another new one that irritates me is. “To play sport”.
Well tie me kangaroo down…
She’s right mate.
Beudy Ripper.
It’s a bit hot over there at the moment. They’ve been moving fire fighters into parts of Victoria just in case.
And the Greeniacs have been moving firelighters too, no doubt.
They do have some coppers on trail bikes keeping an eye out for those eejuts.
No worries.
No dramas, Blue.
Not as bad as this crassly idiotic headline from today’s DT:
Anderson meets with Tice amid talk of defection.
No, he did not “meet with him”. He met him! [Only imbeciles, the retarded, and Americans meet “with“.]
Just relax!
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Funny-Card-Knee-Surgery-Operation/dp/B0B5PKKX57#immersive-view_1709129987907
Hilarious!
I cannot see that post (to share its humour) since it appears that the poster (whoever it is and for whatever reason) has blocked me!
Hope this copy works for you.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0B5PKKX57?ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_K4HB9GPD89VK06ACHA5S
Indeed it does. Thanks, vw.👍🏻
It was Lewis Duckworth.
I must have upset him at some stage. I cannot think how or why since no one else has blocked me.
I cannot see any of poppiesmum’s posts. Again, I’m unaware of any offence I’ve caused so I’m putting it down to keyboard or touchscreen error.
Tell you what: if you ask LD if his blocking of me is accidental or intentional, I’ll do the same for you with PM.
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Oi…!
384009+ up ticks,
Those responsible for the foreign intake are I believe saying the crowd chanting paedophile’s out are helping relieve the pressure such a horrific issue creates, and as long as no actual action is taken, then no harm done ( the mindset of the political overseers ), in time it will become the norm.
https://x.com/JimFergusonUK/status/1762633952324395164?s=20
Diversity.. oh sod it. I’m sick of this farce. They’ve got to go. Every last bloody one of them. If they won’t leave, shoot them.
In any previous era of British history they would have all been got rid of well before now … by any means at their disposal … no questions asked.
I hope this baby didn’t have grandparents and courtiers asking inappropriate questions before marriage.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-13135839/Orange-new-black-Adorable-monkey-bright-ginger-fur-born-zoo-Bedfordshire-despite-parents-monochromatic.html
Has it been named “Harry”?
Nah, Hewitt
Clearly mum’s been playing away fro home with an Orangutang….
Do you mean has been swinging ?
Swiving more like!
http://i3.cmail19.com/ei/j/F2/25D/D43/csimport/you-need-to-leave-2402202400.jpg
‘I’m sorry darling, but the diversity, equity and inclusion officer says you need to leave.’
😀Amusing but….
It won’t be long before white people are limited on entry to certain public events.
The Wigmore Hall are trying to be diverse in their artist hires and season brochures but if white folk were barred from the audience there’d only be a handful of people left. A few more if Koreans are counted as non-white. I guess the wokies would like to shut down such institutions altogether.
Perhaps they could rename it the Weavemore Hall for the sake of dieversity
Already happening – “West End play stages shows to all-black audience ‘free from the white gaze’
Slave Play will hold two ‘Black Out nights’ in move that critics call ‘simplistic and racist’”
The smile that says “all our refugees will be leaving soon”
https://twitter.com/Steve_Laws_/status/1762823239519130076
Guess where they’ll be going
I doubt it’ll be “If you’re Irish come into the parlour….’
Soldiers of the 1st Battalion the Welsh Guards coming ashore at Bluff Cove/Fitzroy following the bombing of RFA SIR GALAHAD on 8th June 1982.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/57db1899a0ce7fd4d5c3989c2700323645244e7814ccbb877ab6656b9ad7a88e.jpg
Remember that on’ telly.
Poor buggers had been left aboard too long, so the Argies could load up and bomb them.
20 Field Squadron, renumbered and designated as an Airborne unit to serve alongside 9 Independent Para Squadron RE, was also on the Galahad and lost several lads.
The US has a lot of very dumb people:
Meanwhile, President Biden handily won the Democratic presidential primary in Michigan state, garnering 78.6 percent of the vote!.
In the topsy-turvy world of the United States, it’s the self-regarding upper middle-class Democrats that are the dumbarses. Meanwhile, they sneer at the supporters of Trump as being the thick ones.
There’s a joke doing the rounds showing an elderly black man saying “If I die, please make sure I don’t vote for Biden.”
Well if they can fiddle it that much now what can we look forward to? Biden with 150% perhaps?
Another cock up!!
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0ef26ea3e36140e68cbccccb8c173e802c65ad043aa25d97e86f0215bd9e6160.png
Good afternoon! The Biden answer to Rosa Kleb has been shooting from the mouth again and has confirmed: It’s about regime change in Russia! Amazing surprise……This is the creature who was monkeying around in Kiev with the CIA organising the Maidan and who, with her unlovely neocon friends wants us to try to win a nuclear war by having less ruins than the other side. Capital punishment beckons for these people…..half a million young dead in Ukraine are just the first witnesses for the prosecution.
https://open.substack.com/pub/tarableu/p/nuland-blows-the-gaff-on-russian?r=10qzvs&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true
If they think that Putin is bad, just wait until they see who’s waiting in the wings to replace him!
Very true, I agree. The guy is a cautious pragmatist in relation to most likely replacements, includind the ones Nuland would like!!
Not to mention the arrogance of believing that they have the right to change any world leader.
She really is evil personified!
Victoria Nuland?
Sue
Off topic .. but you may be interested in this.
https://twitter.com/houghhough/status/1762893839516189019
What a shame. St Barts began life as an Augustinian priory so to mark its 900th anniversary, the Augustinians were invited back to celebrate the old mass. It’s just a nice thing to do.
The same!
Nearly a week in an open boat in the North Atlantic, in February. Horrendous, quite horrendous.
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S.S. Holmelea.
Complement:
38 (28 dead and 10 survivors).
7,000 tons of grain, linseed and maize
In the early morning on 28th February 1941 the Holmelea (Master John Robert Potts), a straggler from convoy HX-109, was damaged by gunfire by U-47 (Günther Prien) and sunk by a coup de grâce southwest of Rockall. The ship had been missed by a torpedo from U-99 (Kretschmer) earlier that night. The master, 26 crew members and one gunner were lost. On 5th March, ten crew members in one lifeboat were picked up by the Icelandic trawler Baldur and landed at Fleetwood.
On the same day, the trawler had picked up 39 survivors from the Dutch merchant Simaloer, which had been bombed and sunk by a German aircraft 60 hours before.
Type VIIB U-Boat U-47 has been missing since 7th March 1941 in the North Atlantic south of Iceland. 45 dead (all hands lost).
https://uboat.net/media/allies/merchants/br/holmelea.jpg
https://cdn.braze.eu/appboy/communication/assets/image_assets/images/65df417c813068004b8fd855/original.jpg?1709130107
According to the LibLabCon party, “may contain nuts”.
Boris the Bad getting his daily pasting on Twitt…
🆂🅲🅾🆃🆃🆈 🎸🎶fucking hair and telling the truth for once in your miserable life, you impossibly foul bumblecunt.
@ScottyGoesAgain
Boris Johnson: “It’s possible to take back Crimea”
There’s more chance of you brushing your
Then, let Boris go and do it. Flak jacket, steel helmet, clown trousers and L1A1. Be worth watching, that!
As long as all his pseudo military attire pockets are full of hand grenades and flares. I do like a good light show.
Sums him up. And in desperation some in the party are saying bring him back. lol. Next they will be saying we need Theresa May to win the next election. The Conservatives are already in their graves.
Bore-us has had plenty of practice at making a complete fool of himself.
Keep it up you plank and you’ll have enough scaffolding to give you the platform you and your type actually need.
I like your moderate use of language. Please don’t moderate it for me!
Scotty’s words not mine!
One in the eye for whinging wimmin:
Christian Horner has been cleared of misconduct by an independent Red Bull investigation after allegations that he acted inappropriately towards a female employee.
An independent barrister has dismissed the grievance against him, with the 50-year-old now set to remain as team principal. The female complainant has the right to appeal.
I doubt that she’d appeal to any man now.
She hates Horner so much that she was back in the office working with him his week….
It makes one wonder whether it was somebody else, with a vested interest, who actually made the initial complaint.
In today’s woke environment once made it would have to be followed through.
Hamilton?
What, when he noticed the Red Bull team kept spraying champagne over everyone and he couldn’t?
Gee, easy life for some.
https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-51047186
I’m generally not in favour of warnings like “Contains upsetting images” but I can readily make an exception for this pair….
Vile pair of sociopathic nonentities .
Good afternoon from an Anglo Saxon Queen with longbow, blooded axe and marmalade sandwich In handbag. Its nice to see that it’s still light at 5pm, .
might be able to have a cup of tea In the garden before long.
It wasn’t light here at 5pm! It’s been a very dull day indeed. I thought the racing might have been rained off, but it went ahead and the going was heavy.
I wonder what has caused this decision?
Isn’t June Raine the person who has turned the MHRA into an enabling organisation as opposed to doing its proper job of protecting the people?
Raine will not be missed but I expect a clone is waiting in the wings.
https://twitter.com/AnnadeBuisseret/status/1762818778520273171
https://twitter.com/juneslater17/status/1762604849219199231
I’ll bet the MPs and the pushers are delighted to have a scapegoat.
It’s never Raines but Pols!
And Angela
RaynorRainer, deputy leader of the Labour Party, is hardly ray of sunshine!Will she hold the reins of power during The Idiot King’s reign?
People doing a runner from their jobs just before the sh1t hits the fan are famed for their timing. Somehow they know just when to disappear.
Another row is brewing over Ireland. The government’s Legacy Bill is:
“‘…an attempt to draw a line under the events of the past. It would stop new Troubles-era cases and inquests from starting, and offer a conditional amnesty to those accused of killings. If implemented, the law would apply to former members of the security forces and to ex-paramilitaries.”
The High Court in Belfast has ruled that the Bill is in breach of the ECHR. Notably, the case was brought to court by the families of victims shot dead by loyalists and the SAS.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-68419238
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-66648806
No mention of Blair and his comfort letters.
Judicial activism strikes again.
Isn’t it more to do with the generalities of human rights law? So open to interpretation…
I don’t believe so. These laws and others are wilfully interpreted to suit the Establishment views, judges being members of said Establishment. If this is illegal, why isn’t Tony Blair’s Letters of Comfort?
Irish republican activists aren’t going to pursue an ex-prime minister who capitulated to the IRA and gave them the GFA as a step towards a united Ireland.
Coincidentally Mr Blair is a Catholic whose mother happened to be Irish.
Catholic convert, surely?
No, but if we reverse the situation and say that it’s loyalists going to court to seek a ruling on a government that has said it will not seek future prosecutions against the IRA, would the courts rule this illegal likewise? Forgive my cynicism, but I highly doubt it. The laws are not applied equally, and it’s the judges that decide according to their own prejudices. That’s judicial activism.
You are arguing for the specific, me for the general. The problem with HR legislation is that it is open to such personal judgement. It may well be that a court might rule in favour of republicans and against loyalists in the matter of the Legacy Bill but they will be doing so because of the nature of the ECHR.
https://twitter.com/yalding1666/status/1762653155693654112
Eating a kebab is on my not-to-do-bucket-list alongside not going to Lakeside, Bluewater and that newish shopping place in Stratford London.
What happened to pie and mash with green liquor and jellied eels with chilli vinegar? Too white?
Jellied eels are also on my not-to-do list but pie and mash is OK. White’s have moved to Walton-on-the-Naze and their place is very popular. A recent addition to Colchester’s food scene in Trinity St provides Manzes’ pies with mash; not tried it yet but will give it a go soon.
Pie and mash with green liquor is available in outlets in both Stevenage and Ramsgate, too. I used to enjoy an occasional doner kebab but haven’t eaten one for many years, although that’s not through any conscious boycott on my part.
What IS green liquor?
My imagination is not doing my stomach any favours.
Gravy. Thin, clear(ish) gravy.
Chartreuse.
Parsley liquor.
I remember Manzes in Exmouth Market EC1 and Chapel Market N.1 in the 50s and 60s.
Never fancied jellied eels nor pie and mash. Always looked most unappetising.
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‘Night All
All going well for Google AI I see………….
Oi laffed
https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/1762847964282683685
Funny – I thought it was terribly inclusive.
It poses an intriguing dilemma. Ought ahistorical depictions using ethnic minorities be exclusively in positive roles or should inclusivity include historically incorrect depictions of those minorities in unfavourable roles? Would it be racist to bar people of African heritage from title roles in biopics about Pol Pot and Joseph Stalin?
Certainly (…{:¬))…)
Did you just use a chatbot there?
The programming is obviously biased
A ChatPot, surely?
What is a chatbot? Is it generated by Artificial Intelligence?
Phil is a very good example on one.
He didn’t get the part.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/049d19030731c44b7214dac2f8d1dd2926c4eda4b8f42aec8f6af61f60395bd7.jpg
Although I laughed, that actually is an interesting point.
Would Idris Elba be happy to take the lead role in an English language remake of “Downfall”?
No, it wouldn’t be racist, it would be sticking to historical facts.
Yup…one of them black Narzis wot built Hadrian’s wall…innit?
Wonder what comes up if you ask it for an example of black death… A couple of dealers with machetes?
A blackshirt.
384009+ up ticks,
I do sincerely wish it not to be glossed over by the silks and terminating in a matt finish, with
him satin a lonely prison cell.
https://twitter.com/MattHancock/status/1613159691785482240
Well he would say that wouldn’t he!
I have no idea which MP Hancock has in mind nor of the comments which offended his sensibilities.
384065+ up ticks,
Morning DW,
In regards to mr hancock and his thoughts, in many peoples minds tis his actions that are highly suspect.
I believe mr hancock and accuser will meet on Friday and all will be revealed.
That’s me for today. A grey, dreary one. Still went out for a brief walk just now – it is practically dark – and saw a car coming towards me with headlights on – and NO foggy haze round them – as has been the case these last ten years and more! So that is another success for the eye treatment. Brilliant.
Market tomorrow in the drizzle.
Have a spiffing evening.
A demain
You’ll be out banging on saucepans next!!!
Private outfit!! But paid for by the E of the W
Ok then a Le Crueset pan!
Did you have one eye or both done? If one only, what about the other one?
He had them both done, but not at the same time.
Both – ten days apart.
Gosh – very brave! It sounds as though all went well and you’ve had good results.
Both – ten days apart.
Deep breaths okay?
Conway might be interested , as any linguist might be ?
Cor blimey! Cockneys redefined in effort to end stereotypes
Rather than being born ‘within the sound of Bow Bells’, modern members of the culture come from a variety of backgrounds not limited to those who live in London
Rhyming slang, Dickensian villains and Dirty Den: the classic view of the Cockney has not always been a flattering one but after two centuries of snobbery and prejudice good honest Londoners are fighting back.
The modern Cockney is railing against the bad history and lazy stereotypes which have cast their forebears as uncouth, unintelligent and villainous. Instead, they are seeking to redefine their image as resilient, multicultural and not only for Eastenders.
Rather than being born “within the sound of Bow Bells”, Cockneys should be more properly viewed through the comedian Arthur Smith’s definition of Cockney as “non-posh Londoners”. This includes those who come from a variety of racial backgrounds and is not even limited to those who live in the capital.
There is now a “Cockney diaspora” creating a “wider Cockneydom” based around a set of shared values and beliefs which have been defined as including defiance, resourcefulness and “’avin’ a larf”.
“We believe Bow Bells is heard not through the ears but through the heart,” say Cockney Cultures, a community partnership that has championed Cockney heritage in recent years. Last year it secured the recognition of Cockney as a “community language” in Tower Hamlets and now, with the University of Warwick, has produced A Cockney Blueprint, a guide to cockney language and identity.
Cockney Cultures has stated that there are now three manifestations of Cockney: the “old-school Cockney” who is not unstereotypical; the “Cockney diaspora’, which carries the culture beyond the M25; and the “new-school Cockney” who is evolving through exposure to new cultures and languages.
The latter has several iterations and the report lists Bengali Cockneys, Black Cockneys, Essex Cockneys, Jewish Cockneys and more, all of whom reflect an openness that has been embraced by none other than a Pearly King.
“It’s no good alienating people, is it, just because they’ve come from somewhere else or were born from another culture,” said Clive Bennett, Pearly King of Woolwich. “We’ve got differences in London and are multicultural in London: that’s not to say that they’re not Cockneys.”
This bold new era is set against the history of how Cockneys were misrepresented by centuries of snobbery and stereotype. Much of what one associates with Cockneys is wrong, even down to where they come from.
Traditionally, Cockneys were not only east Londoners and the term was used broadly for all from the city. It was in 1571 that the preacher J Bridges said: “We are thorough out all the Realme called Cockneys that are borne in London, or in the sounde of Bow bell.” At the time, that essentially covered the whole city.
But the term was subsequently pinned on the working class, and uncharitably so. The report cites the actor and elocutionist Thomas Sheridan who, in 1762, claimed there were two different dialects in London. “One is current in the city, and is called the Cockney,” Sheridan said. “The other at the court-end, and is called the polite pronunciation.” From this point, aspirational middle classes were encouraged to turn their backs on the Cockney accent and its innovations.
“It was necessary to give people a set of behaviours to avoid,” said Dr Christopher Strelluf, associate professor of linguistics at Warwick and a co-author of the report. “The elocution educators in the 18th and 19th century invented a stigma for the working class. Rather than use ‘Cockney’ as a label for all Londoners, it is just the way that these uneducated, working-class people are speaking.”
The snobbery became worse in Victorian times. Alongside the contributions of authors such as Charles Dickens and William Makepeace Thackeray, the working-class Cockney stereotype developed centred on the East End. Characters such as Bill Sikes and the Artful Dodger in Oliver Twist added a criminal element in the popular imagination.
The playful innovations of rhyming slang attracted the myth that it was a criminal code. This is almost certainly false. It is not the hardest code to crack and would not have been very effective against local policemen who had grown up around the lingo.
Nevertheless, the stigma persisted and Strelluf says the impact lasts to this day. Research shows that those with Cockney accents are unfairly treated in job interviews, though they are not alone.
“It is relevant to all ‘non-standard’ Englishes that invoke social prejudice and discrimination,” said Strelluf. “Any evaluation of a language variety as ‘good’ or ‘bad’, ‘correct’ or ‘incorrect’, ‘smart’ or ‘stupid’, is a social judgment not grounded in linguistic science.”
Now, the language of Cockneys has been protected by Tower Hamlets council in east London. Its listing as a community language recognises Cockney as being in use, though this is not likely to be day to day.
“I don’t want to give the impression that Dick Van Dyke is walking around east London talking about apples and pears,” Strelluf said, “but the cultural inheritance of Cockney remains important to the fabric of Tower Hamlets.”
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/cor-blimey-cockneys-redefined-in-effort-to-end-stereotypes-b078zzzlv
Next up
Protecting Arabic as a London language?
My maternal Gt Grandparents were cockneys – he was born in Bethnal Green and she was born in Stepney. The paternal ones were a little further out – Forest Hill and Brixton.
My dad used to joke that he must be a cockney because he was born in Bethnal Green. Problem is, both his parents came from the Black Sea port of Odessa. Also, after 40+ years living in York, he had a Yorkshire accent!
Shakespeare used cockney (a noun) to denote milksop, sissy or softy.
https://cf.eip.telegraph.co.uk/responsive-image/content/2024/02/28/1709147418830.jpg
Say what one likes about earlier century generals and kings, they tended to be seen on the battlefields.
Modern gung-ho politicians and desk bound general officers would never be seen on the front lines, being more than happy to send young men, and now even women, to die whilst ensuring none of their sons or daughters, let alone themselves are involved.
https://twitter.com/DaveAtherton20/status/1762913101207183482
I heard as a lawyer he defended the 7/7 London bombers.
If not him, somebody would have defended them. Even those accused of the most grotesque crimes are entitled to a defence. The question is, was his conduct that of one performing his professional duty to the best of his ability or did he carry out the task with the relish of one who thought the defendants’ cause was a just one regardless of its consequences?
A tale for our times.
https://x.com/ImtiazMadmood/status/1762801985638600827?s=20
I hate twitter ‘X’s; why send them, poppiesmum?
It is one of the very few uncensored platforms on the internet…..
Are you suggesting that Nottlers should only do as you desire?
There are items on ‘X’ (formerly known as Twitter) that make me laugh, and at times are also informative. For instance, I would never have known about the farming uproar in Europe, one of many. I post them because I hope others find them informative, and might occasionally make people laugh to lighten the day’s load of gloom. If you don’t like the items I post then simply do what I do, and scroll on by. But I won’t stop posting them.
You don’t have to watch, you know.
BTL COmment from the DT:
“Carpe Jugulum
5 HRS AGO
The Conservatives have betrayed their voters in every single policy area,
They have betrayed the armed forces every single year from Cameron onwards.
They have not only presided over the highest levels of immigration EVER they have actively encouraged that rise whilst deliberately lying to the public.
They have raised taxation to the highest levels ever.
They have consistently lied about the costs of Net Zero and have adopted policies that are scientifically illiterate and utterly moronic.
They have allowed the NHS to reduce bed numbers, and consequently resilience, every single year including post-pandemic when the population is ballooning under immigration.
I was a Conservative voter when they were Conservatives. Now? Now I have a long standing aversion to lying scum, much less utterly incompetent lying scum.
I will be voting Reform and celebrating every single Conservative MP who is thrown out.
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And Labour will win the GE, having been in 1997-2010 the authors of so much that set the country on the road to ruin and, since then, supporters of almost everything that the Tories have done to complete the job.
I agree with everything except the first part of the last sentence.
Who will you vote for? Or NOTA?
It depends on who stands. I don’t trust Tice. Otherwise it will be a spoiled ballot paper. I do have previous in that respect.
Conversations rarely heard today.
“I’m bored.”
“Why don’t you go and watch the shelling?”
“Yeah, good call.”
Battle of Albert, 1st – 13th July 1916.
British troops watching a bombardment at Mametz, 4th July 1916.
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I know the photograph is serious. but forgive me if I add:
‘Mametz you either love it or hate it!’
Would that be Mametzite, Mametzalade, or Mametzipan? None have shades of grey among lovers/haters.
Oh, man.
Seems a Bristows helicopter has gone into the sea offshore Bergen. So far, five out of six recovered alive.
The last man has been picked up and taken to hospital.
So pleased to read that.
It seems one also went down in Colombia today. Dramatic footage. Tourist helicopter. All survived. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13135823/Terrifying-video-shows-panic-inside-tourist-helicopter-spirals-control-crashes-Colombia-passenger-makes-desperate-video-call-say-goodbye-family.html
I don’t fly in the things for fun. I need paid
That’s good news. Hope he recovers okay. Don’t like helicopters; if the fan stops they glide like a brick.
Not quite Conners.
Put them n a downward glide and the wings (rotor blads will auto rotate.
When you decide where (if you have time) to land, lift up on the collective, pull back on the cyclic and convert the forward speed to lift.
Pilots have to practice it
I’ve read about too many chopper accidents to be convinced. They can’t all be the result of pilot error!
I never lost one…….
Well done you!
My first trip to the Olympic Studios (cinema) in Barnes. Don’t even know what we are supposed to be watching!
Paint dry…
Actually it was good. Called “the Holdovers” about three differently unhappy and angry people having to spend the Christmas period in each room others’ company. Set in the Boston area of 1970/1971.
A (Barnes) Bridge Too Far??
Used to play school (Shene Grammar) rugby and cricket at Barn Elms sportsground. Then fished at what was a series of reservoirs nearby, which turned into a wetland centre. Had a few underage beers in the Red Lion. Happy memories.
I love it.
We have to suffer the full deprivations of mass uncontrolled immigration of third world savages whilst paying to protect those responsible from the self same third world savages.
Katie Hopkins: Batshit Bonkers Britain.
I heard this earlier regarding islam…… It’s not race, or a favourable friendly religion. It’s just an evil and malignant way of life.
Sums if up very well.
So it’s good night from me.
Till tomorrow folks 😉
It is a political theocracy masquerading as a religion intent on world domination. We are experiencing an old-fashioned invasion aided and abetted by our own government, a government whose first duty is the defence of the realm. Once upon a time we could have defended this island with sticks, spears, slings, stones, bows and arrows and later cannon – now we cannot even call these invaders names.
Its followers have immunity as religion is a protected characteristic in law. In fact, its an ideology, a way of life, and has always worked to displace those who follow other ways of living.
Funeral pyre etc etc
Evening, all. Baby boomers have nothing to do with the housing “crisis”. Importing hundreds of thousands of illegals that the govt intends to house, on the other hand, has everything to do with it.
Was very proud of Kadi today. I went racing and left him on his own for the time I was away. No wingman, no dog sitter. He had to be a grown up, brave little boy. The house was fine when I came back; no signs of separation anxiety chewing or stress-laden deposits. It’s the first time he’s been completely “abandoned” (last Sunday I had my dog sitter come in for him) and he rose to the challenge magnificently. As he’d never been an only dog before, I thought he did extremely well.
He certainly did, bless him. You must have walked through the door with some trepidation. And I am delighted to report that Rico is a slowly improving little dog! How old is Kadi?
Glad to hear Rico is improving. He must be accepting you as the pack leaders now. Kadi is 8, but has lived a sheltered life. He’d never even been camping (his owner used to put him in kennels when she went on holiday) until he came to me and lo! he was a motorhomer 🙂 I was totting up Oscar’s travels the other day; in 2 years and 8 months he went to Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire and Lincolnshire (including riding on the little train at Chatsworth and having tea on the terrace at the Petwood Hall Hotel) as well as Kent, visited the Festival of Hunting, went racing at Taunton, spent a week in Norfolk and a very wet week in Yorkshire.
Without biting anyone? Brilliant, I’m tempted to bite the odd idiot these days.
Without biting anyone. He only ever nipped anyway. He did occasionally threaten the idiots who ignored what I said about not touching his head but never made contact. Towards the end, he loved to have his ears scratched and his head massaged, but probably only by me.
Oscar had a good life with you in the short tine he was with you and experienced things he would never otherwise have done. We loved travelling with Poppie and hopefully we will do with Rico, although we won’t be travelling across the channel, I have my suspicions about the rabies jab – (regarding lymphoma) indeed I am suspicious about all veterinary vaccinations now in view of the WEF’s antipathy towards cats and dogs (as well as humans). And if cafès, restaurants and the rest won’t accept dogs, then they don’t get to see our cash. I hope Kadi has a lovely long life with you, he sounds a real trooper. It is never too late to see results.
Thank you. I hope he does, too. I’m not going to rush into getting another dog now he seems to cope okay without, but I shall hope one will find me before I’m left dogless.
I understand – at what age does one stop? An elderly lady down the green (her husband was the head of the vet school in Cambridge, deceased quite a few year ago now) got herself a Lhasa Apso pup at the age of 81 three or four years ago as a companion for the incumbent 10 years’ old Lhasa Apso – she must be 85 now and I see her regularly tripping around the green and on into the fields with her two little dogs alongside. I am convinced that it is dog-walking and a dog in the house that keeps one keeping on.
I shan’t be getting a pup. That wouldn’t be wise at my age, but I’ll hope that a youngish (5 or 6) dog that needs a good home might come my way. Research has shown that dog owners are happier and healthier than non-dog owners. Probably the same goes for cat owners, but they rarely get the social interaction that walking a dog gives, never mind the exercise.
Our cats looked after OH while I was away and they’ve been very attentive since I returned home.
Absolutely, Connors.
British birth rates have been falling for years, but it seems we still need to build millions of houses.
They have, so it’s just a bit odd how the total population numbers are growing so much. What could that possibly mean?
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Well done him, and you for trusting him.
We had had a trial run or two. I left him for five minutes, then ten minutes then an hour. Today’s three and a half hours was the acid test.
Well done him, and you for trusting him.
Did you have to let Oscar go while I was away? His condition had seemed to be improving? I’m sorry to hear he’s gone. He came to you at a difficult time and although he was an awkward character, you worked wonders with him.
Yes, I’m afraid so. Monday 19th. He’d gone off his legs that weekend and it was the kindest thing to do. The vet did warn me that things could deteriorate very quickly and that was what happened.
I’m sorry to hear that. but you gave him a good life for the couple of years he was with you.
That’s what I keep telling myself, but I do miss him. I invested so much time and effort into him (not to mention cash – if the vet isn’t driving a top of the range car it isn’t Oscar’s fault!).
Yo Conners
We hated it if we had to take our Bosses (THE CATS) to the vets, when it was new Range Rover time
My condolences to you, Conway. You gave a troubled dog a happy home in his later years. He posed a challenge which you met with kindness and resolution. Nonetheless, my sense is that you found your time together to be rewarding.
Thank you, David. It was certainly rewarding to see him come round and be a loving dog.
That’s me off to bed.
Good night all.
Goodnight, Bob.
Correct my arithmetic.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13132281/palestinian-father-103-relatives-killed-israeli-airstrike-gaza.html
Let’s assume 4 brothers and 4 sisters, each married:
8 + 8 people, 16.
Each couple has 4 children ie 8 x 4 = 32 children + the 16 parents = 48 people
Each brother’s wife has 4 brothers and 4 sisters, another 32 people = 80 people
Each couple of couples has 4 children ( 8 x 4 = 32) so total = 112 people.
And 103 of them died in a single airstrike?
Blimey, how many other people must have been injured…
I’d call his dad if he gave me his phone number.
At this stage, my compassion has not only run out, but I’m tending to think, “Well done the Israelis”.
Just wondering .
My replacement car is a 16 plate Peugeot .. and road tax free ..
How many cars are road tax free , and is this now coincidental with the lack of cash to repair roads .. this tax free business is strange because we know that cigarette rices have risen , but pubs are closing ,and drink sales are down , is this why we are being clobbered in other directions .
How can the government justify £50 million for the security of MPs when the problem of security is self made , imported problems and what about the rest of us and especially so those poor souls/ members of the public who have been slaughtered by blinking foreign infidels .
Road tax was never hypothecated for roads. Its true name is Vehicle Excise Duty.
Yes I know Conway, but which ever or however tax is collected , our roads are being neglected .
A friend said to me ‘I would happily pay more tax if it would mean they would repair the roads’ to which I replied ‘Alix, they will never repair the roads because it simply isn’t a priority for them in our suburban and rural homes, they would simply spend more taxed cash on yet another pet project.’ And now I think they are neglecting the roads because they are expecting us not to be driving on them for very much longer, the potholes will speed that process up.
There’s nothing left after they’ve paid the immigrants’ bills.
I hope you like this one. I wonder where farmers go to refill their tanks.
Don’t forget – No farmers = No food = No life.
https://x.com/Roberta9996/status/1762955447051415742?s=20
Well it’s time to wish all my chums a “Good Night”. Sleep well, and see you all tomorrow.
Goodnight, all.
Night night.
Good night, Conners – and Kadi.
Thursday 29th February, 2024
Ped
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We hope 2024 is a good birthday year.
Very best wishes
Caroline and Rastus
Do you only get Birthday presents every 4 years?
We don’t know your year of birth – the oldest Nottler on the list (Delboy) was born in 1936 – if you were born that year you would be celebrating your 22nd birthday; the youngest Nottler on the list (ourmaninmunich) was born in 1967 so you weren’t born that year!
Happy birthday, Ped.
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Nobody should forget Galloway’s ‘10,000 bodies’…
Police view film of East End anti-fascist rally
https://twitter.com/woodgnomology/status/1409224386167644161
George Galloway is, and always was, hugely dangerous, far worse than anyone such as Oswald Mosley or any of the other pariahs of British politics. Two Marxist parents and the gift of the gab; utter poison.
I just finished re-reading The Master and Margarita written by Mikhail Bulgakov. I can think of few books written in the 20th Century that so capture the imagination and span the gulf between the ancient world and the present.
I think our Russian compatriots are the most worthy of neighbours. I personally prefer to support President Putin above the ghastly wretched advising the incompetent Biden regime in the USA.
I just hope and trust that our people will wake up as soon as possible.
You are not the only one.
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Good morning, all – Thursday’s new page is here.
‘ Morning, Geoff and thank you.
Good morning and thank you.