Wednesday 9 August: The Conservatives’ crusade against oil boilers is alienating rural voters

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  1. The Conservatives’ crusade against oil boilers is alienating rural voters

    When this madness is all over we should build a monument to the Unknown Climate Scientists that started this all of.

    Never in the field of human con tricks,
    Has so much been lost,
    By so many
    To so few.

    1. The climate scientists are probably right; it is the politicians and their lobbyists who are conning us.

      1. When the heat pump cannot supply the heat it does it with mains electricity. The colder the area the more electricity you will use. and you have the contatnt noise from the fan. You home will never be warm enough and it will cost you more.r

        1. Most home with heat pumps have to use an emersion heater as well, especially if there are upto 4 or more people living in the property.
          I expect if you delved far enough you’d discover that some ploticians would have financial interests in the companies.
          Charles Dickens invented the word Bung in one of his short stories.

          1. We have an oil fired boiler, an immersion heater in the extension, which has a separate hot water system, and a wood burning stove in the sitting room. It’s not a large house but it’s an irregular shape and has bits added of varying ages.

            When they’ve killed off the small family firms who deliver our oil and service our boilers, what then?

            Our next door neighbour’s heat pump which is about 10 years old now, is pretty inefficient and expensive to run. She also has a wood burner in her little sitting room.

          2. Some years ago we tried heat pumps in varous situations and realised their many limitations. Anyone buying one for their home will be very dissapointed.

      1. I’ve had mine on for about 1 hour in the last 6 weeks – and the woodburner lit twice

      2. I’m sitting here in a fleece, trying not to succumb to the temptation to put the heating on!

  2. Morning, all Y’all.
    Drizzle. Media still fomenting panic over some heavy rain, population going “meh”.

    1. This is funny, but let us not forget that sirjasper suspected early this morning that his ticker might be giving him problems, so called the ambulance.
      He wasn’t sure, but he has had this sort of thing in the past, so probably knows better than most what symptoms to look out for.
      The post is on yesterday’s thread. Hopefully he will have got checked over and got some sleep and will surface again this evening.

  3. I co-own with my elderly mother a flat, which is a freehold unit of a converted school, of which I am also a joint shareholder under a management company.

    Over the last five years and through Lockdown, my mother has stayed in London in a peppercorn property owned by my sister and has been too frail to return to the flat. I visit the flat regularly, read the meters, collect the post and seen to urgent repairs, but otherwise my priority is in my own home seven miles away, where I am doing building work living alone.

    There is a small garden attached to the flat, which is planted with shrubs and flower beds with a patio area. It is divided from the common garden by a low hedge, which is clipped by the company.

    Other residents have complained that my mother’s garden has got overgrown and not to the standards they expect. I visit occasionally and cut things back, most recently when overgrowth was blocking airbricks and causing damp problems, but I feel that the density of the shrubbery is keeping weeds down and is not itself unattractive. The birds like it. When my mother does return, then I can cut it back myself in a day’s work and return it to amenity.

    At a recent meeting, the company passed a resolution ordering me to tidy the garden. My mother then, through the Managing Agent arranged for a firm of gardeners to tidy the garden under a quotation of £240. I had reservations myself – the quote was for “hard pruning” which I felt was inappropriate for roses in summer, and may remove the ground cover that is keeping out the weeds. However, without my approval, my mother arranged for the tidying of the garden under her direction. I was assured that they would do the work sensitively and respect the plants my mother and I had put in over the years.

    I have been presented with a bill for £500, after finding a clearance operation carried out. It turns out that one of the other residents had instructed the contractors, causing the extra work and the bare ground acceptable to them, but not to me. The Managing Agent admitted no involvement in directing the contractors, and my mother was not there either. I was not asked to be involved, and indeed the company made it clear that my concerns were not respected.

    The company has form for rash spending on contractors that are profiteering. A reserve fund of over £40,000 built up from the Service Charge over the years to fund a repainting of the house has been squandered on consultancies and contractors following the discovery of dry rot when an incoming resident ripped out his bathroom, and huge bills spent on a lift serving the first and second floors that are ongoing. £9000 was proposed for a new carpet in the hall, despite the old carpet being in reasonable condition and good for a few years yet. I got that quote down to £7000, but it will effectively use up what’s left of the reserve, and it’s now ten years since the house was last repainted,

    I have said to the Managing Agent demanding payment that I claim no responsibility for employing this contractor to tidy the garden, and that he should seek payment from my mother. I will pay up only upon her written instruction to me. Verbally, I get something different from her every day, and her memory is not that reliable. She often forgets what I have said only the day before, and her instruction to me has varied, from selling up and disposing of everything to a desire to travel down next week and for me to get everything ready for her arrival. Consistent though has been a desire not to let contractors butcher her garden, and indeed is the reason she has not let the resident house gardener, who tends to clear everything away, near her plot.

    What is my obligation under Joint & Several Liability to pay the bill?

    1. This is one of those irritants that are sent to plague those of us who attempt to mind our own business!

    2. I would pay what was agreed with you, so the £240. The remainder can go hang – the company should not have accepted instruction from a 3rd party, and can then present the 3rd party with an invoice for any outstanding amounts after the £240 has been deducted. They gave the (invalid) instruction, they can damn well pay. Then you can argue that they have caused damage to the garden as well.

      1. Thanks for that advice. It’s why I came here – hard to have a clear head when shrouded in red mist! The Managing Agent writes optimistically about my “fellow directors” when I feel scant fellowship with them right now.

        To clarify, the garden is actually part of the flat and private property, and not part of the common parts belonging to the house. It was the company through one of their directors who interfered with the gardener employed by my mother that the Managing Agent found for her, and who might claim he was acting under resolution from the board to move in on the garden and tidy it up to their standards.

        I have paid the £240. The Managing Agent is now proposing to consult the directors with a bill for the remaining £260. However, I am also a director and have said that if the Company pays the bill, it is accepting responsibility for encroaching onto my and my mother’s property, with all the legal precedents that involves. It means that none of us are safe from a resolution passed at a directors’ meeting, especially since married couples there double up on the representation. As a director, I have said that I do not approve of company money spent in legal fees fighting me and my mother. Better the third party, the owner of the neighbouring flat whose name is on the invoice and who instructed the contractors, pays the £260 from his own pocket.

        It’s hardly worth the legal hassle of taking him on, so I am inclined to let it go with a warning not to try it on again. My mother bought the flat eleven years ago to get away from these sorts of neighbourly battles, which she had to deal with in London. She gets quite emotional, which doesn’t help. She says she wants to sell up, get rid of all the furniture and book a place at a Swiss clinic. I think she is feeling cheated that at 98, she suffers no more from dementia than I do, and compared with the US President, 17 years younger, she is as bright as a teenager. She’d like someone to take care of her at her age!

  4. Russia ‘tops list of suspects’ in cyber attack which exposed data of 40m UK voters. 9 August 2023.

    The hackers first accessed the commission’s computer systems in August 2021 but the attack was not detected until October 2022 – 14 months later – raising major questions about security.

    The hostile actors gained access to electoral registers which listed the names and addresses of anyone in the UK signed up to vote between 2014 and 2022, plus those casting ballots from overseas.

    The hackers also got into the commission’s email system. It is not known what was accessed but the commission said that any sensitive information emailed in by people – such as bank records – could be compromised.

    Not exactly the Launch Codes! You can read the registers at your Local Council Offices and if you get an email from Vlad that will be more than I’ve ever had from the Electoral Commission.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/08/08/election-watchdog-cyber-attack-hostile-actors/

    1. Does this exposure mean all the thousands of fake and fiddled votes will now be
      stopped ?

    2. Dear Mrs. Allan.
      Don’t vote for me because I’ve done it myself.
      Love and kisses,
      Vlad.

      1. I was just an ordinary English man
        Before I got my uniform and hat
        And ever since that hour,
        I’ve exercised my power
        Preventing you from doing this and that ……….

        Jobsworth, Jobsworth – it’s more than my job’s worth
        I don’t care, rain or snow, whatever you want the answer’s no
        I can keep you standing for hours in a queue – and if you don’t like it you know what you can do.

        Time to listen to this song again which is now even more relevant than it was when Jeremy wrote it over 40 years ago:

        https://www.google.com/search?tbm=vid&q=jobsworth+jeremy+taylor&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi6k4Gmm8-AAxVYTKQEHeqYDBsQ8ccDegQIRBAD&biw=1280&bih=621&dpr=1.5#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:19342d03,vid:fz44_Sp0K8A

      2. Pigs are omnivorous. Their varied palate has been used to vaporise inconvenient corpses.

    1. I appreciate the cartoon, but a properly maintained and used wood stove does NOT emit a huge cloud of smoke! The stove needs to be hot, and the wood needs to be dry.

      And nobody with the smallest sense would store their logs on the windward side of the house!
      Certain details must be correct, otherwise one cannot appreciate the drawing!

  5. 375352+ up ticks,

    Morning Each,

    Wednesday 9 August: The Conservatives’ crusade against oil boilers is alienating rural voters

    As with labour / lib dems the Conservatives’ crusade against the indigenous peoples of these Isles is alienating ALL voters
    who have now surely had their eyes opened and really should be expressing their will to survive via the polling stations.

    To my mind to die for the party, especially one bordering on being a criminal cartel as the governing coalition is proving to be, really is an act of gross stupidity.

    The sad thing is it is hard to convince the indigenous majority voter it is as thick as smog because the vote is inherited via the family tree, regardless of time after time nation destroying evil consequences are repeated.

    Face facts, the electorate these past four decades has nigh on scuttled the good ship Blighty.

  6. The right to use cashSIR – Your report, “NatWest limits access to cash for certain customers” (August 7),

    contains the encouraging news that a poll of voters in Red Wall

    constituencies revealed that eight in 10 believe customers should have a

    legal right to pay with cash in shops.

    The Government needs to

    afford legal protection to the use of cash and abandon plans to close

    ticket offices at railway stations, where tickets for rail journeys can

    be purchased with cash.

    The ability to use cash is a cornerstone of a free society.

    Will Forrow
    Dawlish, Devon

    “The ability to use cash is a cornerstone of a free society”.

    Which is why ‘they’ want to get rid of it.

  7. “Government proposes to extend pandemic vaccination regulations
    Ministers
    want to extend the regulations until 1 April 2026 to support the
    supply, distribution and administration of Covid and flu vaccines..”
    They’re not giving up folks,new lockdowns incoming………..

    1. Which pandemic vaxx regulations were those?
      Would that be the emergency licensing for the covid jabs that allowed them to waive quality controls and deliver a product that was completely different from the one they tested?

  8. “Government proposes to extend pandemic vaccination regulations
    Ministers
    want to extend the regulations until 1 April 2026 to support the
    supply, distribution and administration of Covid and flu vaccines..”
    They’re not giving up folks,new lockdowns incoming………..

  9. Good morning all.
    An almost cloudless 7°C start today after a clear, starlit night as I walked home last night after an excellent walk!

    I did drop a bollock though, coming down Sheep Pasture incline, I totally missed the turn off onto Intake Lane and ended up doing a mile and a half extra via the Cromford Canal! By the time I got into Cromford the Boat had shut!!

  10. Curators of Mary Rose museum criticised after claiming objects found on ship have LGBT meanings
    Items found on Henry VIII’s flagship such as a mirror and nit combs may be related to sexuality, it was claimed

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/08/08/mary-rose-museum-lgbt-queering-collection-henry-viii/

    Oo, hello, sailor! There seems to be a collective madness among museum curators, schools (Tennyson was ‘gay’) etc. trying to claim that everything in the past was ‘queer’.

    1. Just beat me to it,I know traditionally our navy was run on “Rum,Bum and the Lash” but this is just remorseless bollox

    2. ” a mirror and nit combs may be related to sexuality”.

      Yes. They were heterosexual. And so was the dog.

        1. The wonderful thing about fleas
          Is you can’t tell a he from a she
          But he can
          And she can
          Whoopee!

          1. Big fleas have little fleas upon their backs to bite ’em
            And little fleas have lesser fleas and so ad infinitum.

          2. Big fleas have little fleas upon their backs to bite ’em
            And little fleas have lesser fleas and so ad infinitum.

          3. Big fleas have little fleas upon their backs to bite ’em
            And little fleas have lesser fleas and so ad infinitum.

    3. It seems You can’t fix stoopid, but how do all these loud mouth morons get the top jobs ?

      1. You have a real gift for summing up the situation in one sentence Eddy!

        It happens so often that I read something on NOTTL and then you’ve posted a short, eloquent sentence that says exactly what I was thinking and more.

      1. And don’t forget the cabin boy on the Good Ship Venus:

        The cabin boy was Zipper
        An awful little nipper
        He stuffed his arse
        With broken glass
        And circumcised the skipper!

      2. And don’t forget the cabin boy on the Good Ship Venus:

        The cabin boy was Zipper
        An awful little nipper
        He stuffed his arse
        With broken glass
        And circumcised the skipper!

    4. Such a revelation and to so many at this particular moment in time. Only now, when the agenda has been issued do all these simple minded people become vocal on this non-issue.
      I read a quote by a scientist about the need for an open mind but not so open that your brain falls out. These agenda following people need a memo…

    5. Looked like fairly standard Tudor equipment when I saw it, but then, I’m not “woke”.

  11. Good day all,

    Cloudy at McPhee Towers this morning but there should be some sunny periods, wind Sou’-Sou’-West, 13℃ rising to a nice 22℃.

    I’ve crunched some numbers from the Met Office historical temperature record. They show that from 1990 to 2022 the average daily maximum temperature for August at Oxford, the closest station to our location, is 22.63℃. the 9th is the first day this month that the temperature will be anywhere near that figure.

    From the Letters in the Gatesograph:

    SIR – I have read The Daily Telegraph for more than 50 years, despite being a Labour supporter and an active trade unionist. I can’t remember a time when I was so depressed about politics. I want this administration out, but I don’t want a see-saw Labour government.

    We need a coalition of talent, building a new consensus for updating the public and political infrastructure. There should be a board, not a Cabinet, of elected MPs and some unelected members appointed for their specialist knowledge. The dominant, alternating two-party system is finished, and I am losing interest in propping it up.

    Kevin Liles
    Southampton

    Mr Liles stops short of referring to Liebour and the Great Cons as the ‘Uniparty’ but his sentiment is on the right lines. The party system is deeply corrupt, self-serving and, yes, it is now anti-democratic. The awakening continues.

    1. People can feel it, and anyone who remembers the old days when Parliament had some teeth can see the difference from the fat little lapdogs of today.

      Andrew Bridgen, having slipped his leash, appears to be using his limited time before the next election to make a one man tidal wave, and good for him!

    2. People can feel it, and anyone who remembers the old days when Parliament had some teeth can see the difference from the fat little lapdogs of today.

      Andrew Bridgen, having slipped his leash, appears to be using his limited time before the next election to make a one man tidal wave, and good for him!

  12. Just wondering if these cyber attacks are just more summer false flag stories.
    After all the mainstream media only tells us what it wants us to know, why would they tell us if this leak was real

    1. Morning Bob. The consequences of this latest “hack” are so inconsequential that the first thing that occured to me was that it was home grown.

    2. I think that data breaches are happening all the time, as you can see from the links below, which are just a normal day’s reporting. There may be an uptick in reporting in the US, because there are some new rules that public companies have to make cyber attacks public.

      https://www.wired.com/tag/cybercrime/

      bleepingcomputer.com

      https://thehackernews.com/search/label/Cyber%20Attack

      https://www.securityweek.com/category/data-breaches/

      So if the lizards want to ramp up fear, they’ve got a constant source of news with which to scare people. It’s just an ongoing struggle between thieves and IT professionals. wibbling will know more than I do about that, I expect.

  13. The world must unite now to halt the Taliban’s repression of Afghan women and girls. Gordon Brown. 8 August 2023.

    Two years of ever-intensifying repression since the Taliban seized power in August 2021 have not dimmed the resilience of girls and women in Afghanistan, who continue to risk their lives fighting for their right to an education and employment. But no one should be in any doubt that what Afghan girls are experiencing is not a temporary disruption. It is nothing less than “gender apartheid”, the chilling words used recently by the permanent representative of Afghanistan to the United Nations. Only a term as devastating as this can capture the grave violations of rights involved. It is time to declare it a crime against humanity, and the prosecutors of the international criminal court (ICC) should open an investigation into the repression ordained by the Taliban regime.

    This betrays a surreal appreciation of the world that is scarcely comprehensible. Does Brown not know that the Taliban kicked us out of Afghanistan two years ago? That British girls as young as seven are taught all the methods of sexual deviation that would have shocked previous generations? That when they appealed to the forces of Law and Order for protection in Rotherham etc. that there was no help for them? Where was Brown then?

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/aug/08/halt-taliban-repression-afghan-women-girls-education

  14. The world must unite now to halt the Taliban’s repression of Afghan women and girls. Gordon Brown. 8 August 2023.

    Two years of ever-intensifying repression since the Taliban seized power in August 2021 have not dimmed the resilience of girls and women in Afghanistan, who continue to risk their lives fighting for their right to an education and employment. But no one should be in any doubt that what Afghan girls are experiencing is not a temporary disruption. It is nothing less than “gender apartheid”, the chilling words used recently by the permanent representative of Afghanistan to the United Nations. Only a term as devastating as this can capture the grave violations of rights involved. It is time to declare it a crime against humanity, and the prosecutors of the international criminal court (ICC) should open an investigation into the repression ordained by the Taliban regime.

    This betrays a surreal appreciation of the world that is scarcely comprehensible. Does Brown not know that the Taliban kicked us out of Afghanistan two years ago? That British girls as young as seven are taught all the methods of sexual deviation that would have shocked previous generations? That when they appealed to the forces of Law and Order for protection in Rotherham etc. that there was no help for them? Where was Brown then?

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/aug/08/halt-taliban-repression-afghan-women-girls-education

    1. Now, what would be the motivation behind the repression of girls and women in Afghanistan, Mr Brown? Why would the Afghanis think of making such repressive rules?

      I’m just baffled.

      1. Well, it can’t be because of religion because all religions are fluffy and tolerant and understanding of human frailty.

    2. “…the Taliban seized power in August 2021…”

      1996, actually. Pakistan created them and they went into Afghanistan to knock together the heads of the various mujahideen groups who had been squabbling since the withdrawal of of Soviet Union forces in 1989.

  15. Morning all 🙂😊
    What a contrast to the misery of yesterday, a lovely bright cloudless and sunny start to the day.
    And yes here we go again with invented oil fired boiler issues. Politicians at it again, once more they eff up everything they come into contact with.
    And they are at it again they can’t seem to stop themselves can they ?
    This time many individual’s and possibly their families lives. Most people in rural areas who have oil fired boilers are not on a gas supply.
    Doing this to these poor people will cost them a fortune and a ground source heat pump is never going to be cost effective. And to add to the problem the probably use an oil fired Aga for cooking.
    Quite possibly a complete electrical rewire of the property.
    Homes will also be devalued.
    All because of our we know best idiots in Westminster and Whitehall. They’ll be dishing out fines for heating and cooking next.

    1. We live in a listed stone cottage in a rural area. We rely on our oil fired boiler and wood burner for heating and so do most of our neighbours. We’re not on the gas grid here.
      The stupid politicians can get stuffed and just leave us alone!

      1. You don’t have to be very far from civilisation to be without mains gas. Mother’s house isn’t on the gas grid, and it’s less than six miles from the centre of Cardiff.

    2. “Homes will be devalued”

      It’s a feature, not a bug (as we say nowadays)

  16. Off-Guardian presents a brilliant debunking of the latest climate bolleux

    “In the UK, we all know that this summer has been

    rubbish. We had a few weeks of glorious sunshine in June and since then

    it’s been bloody miserable. It’s been cold, wet and the dog has got

    trench-foot. Which isn’t great because he stinks at the best of

    times—bless him.

    Yet, according to the UN Secretary General and blithering buffoon, António Guterres, we’ve entered the “era of global boiling.” Though not in the UK—or anywhere else for that matter

    Just as we were during the pseudopandemic,

    we are once again invited to reject the evidence of our own senses and

    “trust” whatever we are told by the “experts,” although Guterres is not a

    meteorologist. Mind you, Bill Gates isn’t an epidemiologist and

    everyone “trusted” his “expert” opinion during the pseudopandemic, so

    who cares?”

    Rest here

    https://off-guardian.org/2023/08/08/the-infuriating-climate-alarm/

    1. Its way passed time that Someone needs to start speaking some common sense, there are so many bloody idiots out there the axles are about to break on the bandwagon.

    2. Another example of ‘The Science’ being corrupted.
      Likewise the idea of scattering ‘particles’ into the upper atmosphere to block out the Sun’s life giving/sustaining radiation. What could possibly go wrong? And on a minor point, I don’t want their crap being splattered on my car and window sills when it rains: I’ve got more than enough to do without having to clean that off, thank you very much!

    3. pseudopandemic.

      I like it! Makes note to self to use it at first opportunity!

    1. The whiney voiced Nick Robinson has brought it up about ten times on Radio 4 recently. In 2015 Robinson underwent surgery to remove a carcinoid tumour. The doctors were tempted to keep the tumour and dump Robinson as it appeared to have more integrity and a more beneficial nature.

      1. I never watch the BBC news except by accident. I had forgotten how repulsive a piece of excrement Nick Robinson is. His appearance, his voice and especially his face seem to have SMACK ME written all over them.

  17. Good morning, all. Blue sky, Sun shining and a light breeze here in N Essex.

    A good article re Greenland’s ice sheet and how despite ‘boiling’ July it is more massive than the mean value. Computer models and selective data appear to be the basis for ‘The Science’ these days.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/338b3a78ebe5183c65cb541591f36fe62675c03c773ea3b7ed235c14d6a0d980.png

    Daily Sceptic – Greenland Ice Sheet Currently Larger Despite ‘Boiling July’

  18. Wales’s first language
    SIR – Matthew Lynn’s article (August 8) on the Senedd’s Anglophobic mindset surely strikes a chord with the forgotten 82 per cent of the population who are non-Welsh speakers.

    The set-up of the Welsh establishment is such that one needs to speak the Language of Heaven – a tongue totally useless east of Offa’s Dyke – to get on, regardless of political affiliation. This is clearly madness.

    I fully support the provision for Welsh speakers to conduct their lives in the language, but spending large chunks of money to placate Plaid Cymru chums in Cardiff Bay is offensive to the rest of us. English is the first language of Wales – a fact that should be acknowledged.

    Huw Baumgartner
    Bridell, Pembrokeshire

    That reminds me: many years ago, a very basic cable TV system was provided in the Rhonda Valley. The locals were aske if they wanted it to include Channel 4 or S4C. They voted for Channel 4, and were duly given S4C.

    1. Wales’ Anglophobic establishment is driving its economy into the ground

      With such unwelcoming measures, small wonder the Welsh tourism industry is tanking

      MATTHEW LYNN • 8 August 2023

      It could be the weather. It could be the cost of living crisis, or an itching to leave UK soil after months of lockdown. Or it might be that officials in Westminster are deliberately conspiring to make sure it does as badly as possible.

      Various different explanations have been given for the figures published last week, which showed tourism in Wales collapsing over the last three years. And yet, there is a far simpler explanation. The Welsh Assembly’s regime of high taxes, state control and an anti-English attitude have made the country as welcoming to visitors as Snake Island.

      In reality, Wales has been busily destroying what should be one of its biggest industries, and impoverishing itself in the process. It may not be long before the rest of the economy follows.

      This should be a golden period for the Welsh tourism industry. Heat waves have turned much of the Mediterranean into a cauldron. Crowded airports and the rising cost of flying have made foreign travel less attractive for many. Fears over climate change have encouraged some to holiday somewhere closer to home.

      And, of course, with its long stretches of stunning coastline, dramatic mountains, its climbing, lakes and hills, as well as hundreds of beautiful villages and dramatic castles, Wales is among the most attractive places to visit in Europe. Tourism should be a major industry – one that is growing all the time, creating lots of well-paid jobs and raising bountiful tax revenue in the process.

      But that is not what is happening. According to figures released by the Welsh government last week, there were 33pc fewer inbound visitors to the country in 2022 compared to 2019, and the amount they spent was down by 24pc. Tourism matters to Wales PLC: it accounted for 5pc of Welsh GDP prior to the pandemic, and employs 12pc of the workforce.

      In 2021, GDP per capita in Wales was £25,665 compared with £33,745 for the UK as a whole. Charities have warned that child poverty across North Wales in particular has risen continuously over the last few years.

      Tourism should be a major source of income. So what has gone wrong? In a report for the BBC, local officials and business blamed the weather and the cost-of-living crisis, while Plaid Cymru, the nationalist party, rather predictably blamed the English.

      “The Welsh and UK Governments have not created a presence for Wales on the world stage,” Plaid’s economy spokesman Luke Fletcher complained. But the weather in Wales has always been a little on the drizzly side, while inflation has impacted individuals and businesses across the country.

      It is surely the devolved administration’s narrow-minded, anti-foreigner policies that have done the most damage to Wales’s reputation as a place to go on holiday. Place names have been changed to Welsh, which might placate modern-day progressives or Anglophobes, but will baffle the 82pc of the Welsh population who don’t speak the language. Bannau Brycheiniog doesn’t exactly trip off the tongue in the way that the Brecon Beacons once did.

      It has imposed steep taxes on second home owners, while Government legislation introduced in 2022 requires holiday homes to be let for 182 days per year. Council tax for second homes increased by up to 300pc in April, a ratcheting of the original levy introduced in 2017.

      Many have been forced to put their homes on the market, leaving properties sitting empty in some of Wales’s most popular and picturesque destinations. Businesses which depend on second home-ownership are struggling.

      Worse, the Assembly has passed legislation for a “tourism tax” which could see overnight visitors pay a levy on top of their holiday costs. It claims the measure would allow for “more sustainable tourism”, but opponents have rightly warned that it could clobber visitors who are already cutting back due to higher bills.

      A default speed limit of 20 miles per hour on restricted roads is about to be imposed, to help “safeguard the environment for future generations”. Major road building projects have been scrapped. Plans for a third Menai Strait crossing have been shelved. The list goes on and on.

      It hasn’t quite put up armed checkpoints on the Severn Bridge in the name of net zero, or imposed a Welsh-language test on anyone landing at Cardiff airport. But it is probably only a matter of time. With such unwelcoming measures, is it any wonder people might not want to visit anymore?

      This disregard for tourists and the tourism industry is emblematic of a wider issue. The devolved administration spends too much time on virtue-signalling, show-boating, and trying to create dividing lines with Westminster. It does so at the expense of helping small businesses, promoting the economy, creating new jobs, or welcoming foreigners and investors.

      The UK has plenty of economic challenges, and will need many reforms before it can start growing again. But one of the main ones should be reversing the catastrophe of devolution.

      The empty cafes and holiday homes of the stunning coastline of Anglesey or Pembrokeshire should be evidence enough of that. This is an industry that should be thriving over summer, but the Welsh government is killing it off.

      Left to its own devices, it may kill what little else remains of the country’s wider economy as well.

      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/08/08/wales-anglophobic-government-driving-economy-into-ground

      1. It’s been going on for some time. I did a degree at a Welsh university (graduated in 2008) and I was made, being Saesneg, to feel an unwanted intruder. They were happy enough to take my money, though (charging me more in fees because I lived 2 miles the “wrong” side of the border).

    1. Putting the BBC in charge of fake news with its Verify is like putting Jimmy Saville in charge of an orphanage.

    2. So true.
      I’m just glad the bbc don’t have on screen adverts, the whole set up would be even worse than it is.

    3. Excellent. I read the BTL comments and found just one rabid Pinko quarter-wit criticising the piece.

  19. “Senior Conservatives – including a cabinet minister – say their party is likely to campaign to leave the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) at the next election, if Rwanda flights continue to be blocked”

    Why wait until the next election. You have a Parliamentary Majority. Are you indicating that your own MPs won’t support leaving the ECHR? or do you expect to lose the general election?

        1. As a child, my chums and I played a game called ‘Kick Can’, a variant of hide-and-seek in which you chased he who was ‘it’ towards a can. If he kicked it first, you were ‘out’. If you kicked it first, it gave you the opportunity of hiding again while he retrieved the can.

          We made our own fun.

  20. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bbc60aa774a02d28a32ab06b8279e68808fe56dbe6a3b6a472839134f2d2a574.png
    People have realised a vegan burger is no better for your health

    As Beyond Meat, former star of the stock market, reports plummeting sales, Ed Cumming asks if we have reached peak vegan.

    ‘You are using starches, fats, proteins, sugars and salts to create a Frankenstein’s monster’

    It was hailed as the future of food. When Beyond Meat launched its vegan products in 2012, specialising in meat-esque burgers and sausages, there was a lot of interest and starry investment from Bill Gates and Leonardo DiCaprio. Kim Kardashian posted a video about it on Instagram. McDonalds and KFC used Beyond Meat in their vegan options, and when the company launched on the Nasdaq exchange in 2019, it was one of the hottest shares in recent years, with trading up 160 per cent on the opening day. Investors backed Beyond Meat, and others like it, to grab a huge share of the burgeoning market in meat alternatives that were good for the eater and good for the planet.

    Four years on, Beyond Meat is having a long week. On Monday, the firm reported that sales had fallen by almost a third for the three months to the end of June compared to a year earlier, and that it now expected annual revenue of between $360-$380million, rather than earlier estimates of as much as $415million.

    The US company, which sells its products at major UK supermarkets, blamed “softer demand in the plant-based meat category, high inflation, rising interest rates, and concerns about the likelihood of a recession.”

    Chief executive Ethan Brown warned that the company had been affected by dark forces opposing veganism. “This change in perception is not without encouragement from interest groups,” he said, “who have succeeded in seeding doubt and fear around the ingredients and process used to create ours and other plant-based meats.”

    So, has veganism peaked? Heck, a vegan sausage company, has reduced its range recently, blaming lack of demand. Meatless Farm, another vegan food company, stopped trading in June and other companies are struggling to maintain the growth that they and their backers hoped for. “I am not surprised by the Beyond Meat news,” says Max La Manna, a vegan chef and a food writer. “A lot of it has to do with the cost of living. Everything is getting tightened and people are reverting back to what they know and how they used to shop. It can be pricey when you see two burger patties for £3-£6, and you’re not sure if that’s what you want to be spending money on.”

    When Beyond Meat launched, red meat was having a bad press in the wake of research linking it to an increased risk of cancer. Meatless burgers seemed like the perfect solution as healthy fast food hit the mainstream. But what exactly is in these fake meats and how healthy are they really? Many cookbook authors like La Manna are eschewing meat substitutes and turning back to vegetablebased recipes. Books like Dr Chris Van Tulleken’s Ultra-Processed People have drawn attention to possible health risks of ultra-processed foods, which include many vegan alternatives, where plant-derived products are treated extensively in order to mimic their meaty brethren.

    “A vegan hotdog is probably no better for you than a meat one,” says Renee McGregor, a registered dietitian who works with athletes and is the author of Training Food. Vegan mayonnaise, for example, often contains modified maize starch, sugar and natural flavouring – all processed and worse for you than non-vegan mayonnaise.

    “I tend not to eat vegan alternatives,” says La Manna. “I prefer having a home-cooked meal and using vegetables in the way they are intended to be cooked. Many of these vegan products have a lot of unnecessary ingredients that are going to deter people.” Instead, his book has recipes for dishes including pulled mushroom tacos and sticky aubergine and peanut salad.

    Xanthe Clay, a Telegraph food writer, agrees, adding: “It’s not just about the ingredients list. One of the issues with foods like vegan meat analogues is that you are making something that doesn’t exist in nature. So you are using fats, starches, proteins, sugars, salts and so on to create a sort of Frankenstein’s monster.” Awareness of this process has increased among customers.

    Of course, not all meat products are free from ultra-processed food. Supermarket burgers often contain dextrose and preservatives like sodium metabisulfite. And plant-based meat substitutes are nothing new. In China, people have been eating tofu and seitan in place of animal meat for thousands of years. In recent years, however, a clutch of companies, Beyond Meat among them, became billion-dollar firms off the back of improved techniques, promising alternatives that were closer than ever before to mimicking the flavour and texture of the real thing. Meanwhile, other companies are continuing to invest heavily in cultivated meats, making real animal proteins without using animals. Progress has been slow, however. It is only in Singapore that cultivated meat – chicken made by Californiabased Eat Just – is available to eat.

    Not everyone believes the goose-alternative is cooked.

    Andrew Shovel is the co-founder and co-CEO of This, a British plant-alternative food company. Its products use ingredients like soy and pea protein to create food like “Not Pigs in Blankets” and “Isn’t Pork Meatballs”. Shovel and his business partner, Pete Sharman, launched their firm in 2019, having previously founded a small chain of real-meat burger restaurants.

    “A great deal of culpability can be placed on the overvaluation of some of these brands back in the day,” he says. “They set expectations excessively high. I don’t think people would be revelling in their so-called downfall if it wasn’t for those very promising valuations. Beyond Meat has gone from $80million of revenue in 2019 to nearly $400million now. It’s huge growth, but because of the valuation it’s seen as a disaster instead of a triumph.”

    Shovel says this has continued to grow. “We’re forecast to do $20million of revenue this year, and profitability is improving.” He adds that commentary often ignores the success of the frozen market, which is performing better than chilled meatalternatives, as well as the fact that supermarkets charge higher margins on his products than on meat. This is working on a new line of “virtually unprocessed” products to cater to concerns about health and nutrition.

    “I think [the current situation] is just a kink in the graph, rather than a catastrophic bubble bursting,” Shovel says. “The fundamental drivers of change are still in favour of meat reduction. The Vegan Society publishes numbers of how many people are turning to meat reduction, or veganism, and the numbers are going up year on year.”

    For Anna Jones, the chef and food writer, the struggles of the meat-alternative companies may simply be proof the market is maturing, with people moving from meat substitutes, which are a “gateway to plant-based eating”, to cooking from scratch, or with real vegetables. “There’s still a huge amount of interest in the vegan and vegetarian space, but maybe people are getting smarter,” she says. “They want food that is made of things they recognise.”

    Beyond Meat and its rivals achieved huge valuations because investors thought they would behave like technology companies. But the whims of the stock market change more quickly than dinner habits. If plant-led diets are still the future, customers are starting to look beyond Beyond.

    It is exactly the same with Frankenstein seed oils (“vegetable oils”) that were invented as industrial lubricants, but which the sheeple have been conned into believing is food. It isn’t! Continue to use (and eat) the chemical-laden shit and you will suffer all manner of diseases and conditions that will shorten your life or make it an an utter misery.

    1. Nail. Head. Hammer. The food industry has a lot to answer for. It devises products that make people ill and Big Pharma provides a pill to alleviate (but not cure) their conditions. And around and around it goes.

      I got off that treadmill over 25 years ago and at 72 I’m lean, fit and suffer none of the infirmaties which have come to be associated being in one’s 70s.

      1. I’ve reached 75 without the need for the pills and medications that most people are taking at my age.

      2. I am also 72, much leaner than before, and getting physically slimmer, fitter and mentally sharper each day on my four-meal-a-week diet of delicious and nutritious animal fat and meat. I have more energy to exercise more and more too, and I sleep like a log.

        I have also banished sugar, in all its forms (i.e. alcohol, carbohydrates), from my diet and I don’t miss consuming that poison one bit. I also never get hungry.

        1. That’s true. Sugar reduction or elimination and none of those nasty additives means no craving for certain items and no ‘hunger’ pangs between meals. Also one is satisfied with smaller meals.

        2. That’s true. Sugar reduction or elimination and none of those nasty additives means no craving for certain items and no ‘hunger’ pangs between meals. Also one is satisfied with smaller meals.

        3. That’s true. Sugar reduction or elimination and none of those nasty additives means no craving for certain items and no ‘hunger’ pangs between meals. Also one is satisfied with smaller meals.

    2. Nail. Head. Hammer. The food industry has a lot to answer for. It devises products that make people ill and Big Pharma provides a pill to alleviate (but not cure) their conditions. And around and around it goes.

      I got off that treadmill over 25 years ago and at 72 I’m lean, fit and suffer none of the infirmaties which have come to be associated being in one’s 70s.

    3. Nail. Head. Hammer. The food industry has a lot to answer for. It devises products that make people ill and Big Pharma provides a pill to alleviate (but not cure) their conditions. And around and around it goes.

      I got off that treadmill over 25 years ago and at 72 I’m lean, fit and suffer none of the infirmaties which have come to be associated being in one’s 70s.

    4. Nail. Head. Hammer. The food industry has a lot to answer for. It devises products that make people ill and Big Pharma provides a pill to alleviate (but not cure) their conditions. And around and around it goes.

      I got off that treadmill over 25 years ago and at 72 I’m lean, fit and suffer none of the infirmaties which have come to be associated being in one’s 70s.

    5. That rubbery concoction looks disgusting! I never buy burgers of any description but I certainly wouldn’t want fake meat.

      1. Linda Eastman-McCartney made a fortune selling (and eating) this shit. It didn’t stop her dying prematurely, in fact it no doubt caused her premature death.

    6. I wouldn’t eat that. I’m not actually keen on the meat variety either. Nice piece of rose veal or calves liver with a splash of Madeira in the meat juices.

    7. “pulled mushroom tacos and sticky aubergine and peanut salad.”
      utterly disgusting.

      1. Aubergines are coated in a sticky soy and maple marinade and grilled for a smoky flavour, before being topped with a spicy peanut sauce.

        I don’t think that’s too bad.

    8. I buy lean minced organic beef, half goes into a pot – I smash up some onions, part cook come new potatoes, bash it all together, bake it for some period of time I’d have to look up and put it in a roll for Junior and surrounded by a gentle baby salad including those hard things that are like onions but not for the wife.

      The other half get added raw carrot, pasta, salmon, a baked chicken breast or two, some cut up broccoli, green beans and goes to the two dogs.

      1. I never buy ‘lean’ beef (or beef mince). I want as much delicious, nutritious, healthy and flavour-giving fat on mine as possible.

        It was the spurious advice to “cut the fat from your meat” that kick-started the epidemic of ill-health and obesity, especially when they were urging everyone to use poisonous seed oils in lieu. The fat on meat is actually the most important part for your health, followed by the protein of the meat itself.

        Eating fat does not make you fat; your body removes its nourishment then disposes of what’s left. It is the eating carbs and sugar makes the type of body fat that is detrimental to your health.

        1. I had to correct a restaurateur friend of mine. I had ordered a sirloin steak and the chef had cut the fat off prior to cooking ! If a customer doesn’t want to eat the fat they can cut it off themselves.

          1. I take it that ‘chef’ didn’t know that it is the fat that gives the steak its flavour and moistness.

            I wonder if he had been trained properly at cookery school or had learnt his ‘trade’ in some greasy spoon.

  21. Just a thought.
    Forget Rwanda.
    Change foreign aid so that we immediately export all the doctors, nurses, engineers, architects etc etc et bloody cetera, that we are told arrive in the rubber boats.
    They can rebuild Africa.
    Unless, of course, we’re being lied to about the skills that they possess.

    1. Problem is Sos,
      Parts of Africa were rebuilt decades ago. Since whitey lost control of law order. Those particular Parts of Africa have now been wrecked.
      They can’t even keep their own streets tidy. And they can’t blame anyone else anymore.
      And they have murdered thousands of white farmers or driven them off the land.
      And we are asked to donate and help out for their survival.

      1. But but but…. the gimmegrants are so skilled and diverse that they will be able to transform Africa.

        1. But But but… Mugabe was installed to transfer his own part of Africa into the future and look what happened there…..
          Same has happened with the ANC.
          Here is a reply to an email from an elderly lady who now lives in the UK.

          And he , Mugabe, also piled dead bodies into the back of my Hubby’s public works dept van when he went into Bush on weekly basis to service schools and prisons. He was an electrical engineer. They used hoses to swab the vans down when they returned to depot. Not hubby.
          I Could write a book about our 2 years in just Zimbabwe which we knew as Rhodesia. Cecil Rhodes.. brought industry to that country opening up the diamond fields. And copper mines, lt brought employment to save the starving population. And what did they do? Starve. Mugabe sold the copper and other minerals to the Chinese.
          He destroyed his own people and razed the country to the ground, killed the white farmers in the most horrific ways all in the name of politics and greed. Today the country remains in the same sorry state
          I have been in hospital recently and one of the nurses was a Zimbabwean…who sent almost all her wages home to her family. She was delighted to meet somebody who recognized her accent and experienced what life was really like there.
          If i wasn’t so lazy i could write a book about my life in 3 different African countries. Its only when certain subjects are mentioned that i pile in with my comments.

          I find it Totally unbelievable what is happening now. What does the future hold for this generation and generations to come..letting thousands of single young black men, probably with long-term hidden medical problems, settle in this country. Its not worth thinking about…’cos it’s an absolute nightmare of the future.

          1. It’s very simple – they cannot be allowed here. They have got to be returned to where they came. If they won’t go, well, tough. We use force.

            I still advocate that this is simple plain revenge for Brexit. People knew that massive uncontrolled immigration was a problem but the state wanted it – it’s a massive reason for state expansion. Now the government has fought on economic terms and ruined the economy through appalling, stupid, mendacious decisions and compounded that with bitter, almost psychotic forced gimmigration.

          2. I think you have taken the wrong end of the stick on both my posts.

            I’m saying that what we are getting off the dinghies is utterly useless, they have almost no skills and they will do to the UK what has happened all over Africa and the ME, given half a chance.

            Liberal refugee facilitators are lying to us about what is being allowed in.

    1. Because we have been told that we MUST care, and I, for one, don’t appreciate being pressganged. I don’t think you’re alone!

    2. Are Ivory coast and Guinea war-torn hell holes? Did they pay for their trip? Why didn’t they just book a flight?

      1. They are not allowed to immigrate legally if they have a criminal record in their own country.

        That’s why they pay the people smugglers to carry them across the Channel.

          1. I don’t understand how other nations are let off not dealing with them and yet when they come to us suddenly we’re the bad guys for putting them on to a barge. Why are we forced to hold a higher standard?

            Heck, we go to *holiday* to Calais.

        1. UK Welcomes criminals – the more violent the criminal the more welcome he is!

      2. Why didn’t they stay at home and put their own houses in order as our parents and grand parents had to during and after our two wars with over aggressive Germany.

      3. Why didn’t they stay at home and put their own houses in order as our parents and grand parents had to during and after our two wars with over aggressive Germany.

    3. Are Ivory coast and Guinea war-torn hell holes? Did they pay for their trip? Why didn’t they just book a flight?

  22. A sensible piece here about the impact on rural areas of the projected ban on oil fired boilers in three years’ time.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/08/09/no-i-wont-replace-my-oil-boiler-with-a-heat-pump/

    Jill Kirby

    9 August 2023 • 7:00am

    Does anyone in Government really believe that domestic oil
    heating can be abolished entirely in just a few years’ time? A ban on
    fitting new oil-fired boilers, announced in 2019, is due to apply from
    2026. But as the date draws near, the uproar in rural communities will
    make Ulez look like a walk in the park.
    It is a huge worry for the 1.5 million households in the countryside
    who rely on oil for heating and hot water, and who are wondering what
    they will do when their boilers wear out.

    1. This about fifty minutes long – but well worth it.

      Roger J Arthur demolishes Net Zero!

  23. Fifteen years ago, Rod Liddle wrote that progress had been made in debating Islam. If it had, it’s since stalled.

    I’ll dig out one of the Harry Cummins articles later.

    Cummins may belong to the green ink brigade, but he was right about Islam

    Rod Liddle looks back at the case of the British Council employee who dared to speak the truth about Islamic ideology – and notes that what was heretical in 2004 is now almost orthodox

    From The Spectator, 28th June 2008
    ___________________________________

    A madman has been bombarding Fleet Street journalists with extremely long e-mails, asking for redress, for a hearing. He feels traduced. Nothing new there, then. Lunatics write to me every day, long handwritten scrawls of bitter psychosis – and it really is true that the maddest are written in green ink, or a similarly unnatural hue. I imagine these woebegone people wandering into WH Smith’s and saying to some babe at the counter: ‘Excuse me, I would like to buy a pen, for I need to write a long letter.’ And the girl narrowing her eyes and saying: ‘Certainly, sir. But tell me, are you crazier than a shithouse rat? Because if so, you will need the green, purple or orange biros which you will find on the display to your left. If, however, you are fairly rational – by which I mean you have not received compulsory psychiatric counselling in the past six weeks – then you may prefer those blue and black pens on your immediate right.’ That must be what happens. Incidentally, the more barking mad the letter I receive, the more likely it is that they fervently agree with whatever it is I’ve written.

    What with the internet, though, you require a different recourse to judge the mental state of a correspondent. A fairly reliable giveaway is the number of people – and indeed the lateral, qualitative spread of people – to whom the e-mail has been cc’d. You notice it’s not just been forwarded to your editor, which is fair enough, but also to the Press Complaints Commission, Scotland Yard, Gordon Brown, the International Court of Human Rights, Margaret Thatcher, Ant and Dec and our Lord Jesus Christ and you know you are, metaphorically, in the land of the green biro. The e-mail I received this week was cc’d to an awful lot of people. And not only was it very long but here and there, throughout the text, some words were elevated to upper case, just in case the reader didn’t GET THE POINT. And it came from a chap called Harry Cummins.

    You may remember him, just about. He was, until the summer of 2004, a civil servant working for the British Council and earning a salary of about £24,000 per year. In July of that year he wrote four articles for the Sunday Telegraph in which he divested himself of his views about Islam. These were not the sort of views which would go down too well with your local imam, I reckon. Islam wished to conquer the world, he said; it was illiberal, arrogant and authoritarian and hellbent on destroying the rest of us; the ideology promoted hatred and division. As you might imagine, these articles, which were worded rather strongly – Mr Cummins has a tendency to overstate the case on occasion – caused a bit of a furore at the time. Back then, very few people said that sort of stuff and if they did, there would be an immediate collective response of ‘racist!’ from almost the entire establishment, the massed bleating of blind sheep tip-toeing towards the edge of a cliff. ‘Raaaacissst, Raaaaacist!’ And sometimes ‘fascist!’ I know this because I used to say the same sort of thing at the time and I still get called a raaaacisst by imbeciles even today, despite the fact that the climate has changed and its now becoming OK to question the benevolence of Islamic ideology in some quarters.

    Anyway, back in 2004, the first people to thus bleat were those who work for the Guardian, of course.

    Harry Cummins had used a pseudonym for his articles, presumably in order to protect his job at the British Council. However, I ought to point out that his pseudonym was a little lacking in the crucial matter of camouflage: he called himself Will Cummins. The Guardian, through its diarist Marina Hyde, was soon on his case. Marina called him a fascist, etc etc and set out to find out who he was. Luckily, she got a call from an ‘excellent source’ who revealed that ‘Will’ was Harry and that he worked for the British Council and soon a campaign of intense vilification kicked off – demands for Cummins to be sacked, for the Sunday Telegraph to apologise and promise never to publish the man again, all the usual Pavlovian howls of outrage and demands for redress which we have come to expect when people divest themselves of an opinion which is antithetical to the prevailing paradigm. Of course, Cummins was very quickly sacked by the government, in a pious and emetic statement from some munchkin called David Green at the British Council. Cummins had made, the statement said, ‘ignorant’ and ‘hateful’ comments about Muslims.

    Incidentally, I hope that ‘excellent source’ was not located within the Telegraph group. The story is, of course, better if it can be pinned to a civil servant whose job it is to foster better relations with the Muslim community worldwide.

    Cummins was certainly not a racist, whatever else he was. He made it clear that his beef was with the ideology, not the people. He explained this by writing: ‘It is the black heart of Islam, not its black face, to which millions object.’ With crushing predictability, this short sentence was used to prove that he was racist, because he used the phrase ‘black face’. There are some very, very stupid people about – and they usually have their way.

    There are lots of good issues here to get our teeth into and I have a personal interest in them because they gave me the same sort of trouble which occasioned my correspondent. Not just Mr Cummins’s views on Islam (not all of which I share, although the general gist seems pretty sound) – but the extent to which people in certain jobs should be allowed to have opinions and express them. I ended up losing my job at the BBC because of a column I had written which denigrated the Countryside Alliance. There is a fearful symmetry in all things – the column was for the Guardian and it was the Daily Telegraph which demanded I be sacked. The BBC (and the Telegraph) both held what seems to me the intellectually incoherent position that it was OK for an editor of the Today programme to hold such views as mine, but not to give voice to them. The British Council, however, seems to wish to peer inside its people’s souls; Cummins was sacked merely for thinking dark things about Islam, Mr Green implied in his statement, never mind putting them into print.

    Then there is Mr Cummins’s plea for redress; he wishes a right to reply in the Guardian (which has continued kicking him every now and then over the past four years). I don’t suppose he’ll get one. The Guardian is a ‘democratic’ newspaper, which means he’s well and truly buggered. It has a commitment to right of reply and an agreeable liberal functionary who pontificates on matters of fairness; all of this will militate against Cummins. In my experience, that sulphurous organ of Satan, the Daily Mail, is far more fair-minded than the Guardian when a complaint arrives on the editor’s desk.

    I ought to add that Mr Cummins protests too much, mind; if you write stuff and people disagree with it, even if they disagree on the most bone-headed and fascistic terms, then they will stick the boot in – and it was the Guardian’s right to do that, even if it is via the vacuous drivel of columnists Sunny Hundal and Madeleine Bunting. There is an element of ‘you made your own bed, matey’ to be directed at Harry Cummins.

    But the most interesting point is how times have changed since that hot summer of 2004, when merely to advance the mildest criticism of Islam was to provoke that fearful ovine bleating. The official view of Muslims (as opposed to Islam) has shifted and never mind the bombs and stuff, it is now even OK to attack them for the stupid clothes they wear: Jack Straw did this himself by saying he didn’t like burqas, if you remember – and was commended for ‘opening a debate’ by another intellectually bereft Guardian journalist, Martin Kettle.

    In short, while the liberal establishment still cleaves to the view that Islam is fine and dandy, a peaceable religion which cannot, by law, be disrespected, it has turned its guns instead on the people who practise that ideology, the Muslims. There are attempts to proscribe Muslim organisations, bang up Muslims who demonstrate, arrest those who – following the letter and spirit of the Koran – rail against homosexuality and (pace Jack Straw) attack them for wearing traditional clothing, all the while leaving the root cause of these manifestations – the ideology of Islam – as sacrosanct. It strikes me that Harry Cummins’s view was far more compassionate and considered than that, despite his vehement rhetoric. He was right, and – catastrophically for him – ahead of his time. Perhaps he should compare notes with a certain Ray Honeyford.

    1. Jack Straw didn’t say he didn’t like Burqas. He said he asked a constituent to remove their veil – privately arranging privacy for her and this blew up into he was anti muslim which is utter and complete pap.

    1. I think Catherine Austin Fitts is right – she usually is.
      But she thinks they won’t succeed, because they will fall out among themselves. Also, the lizards will lose control of the situation at a certain point when the dollar crashes. All the evidence is that they aren’t particularly bright, just wicked and very rich.
      Also, their experiments with a CBDC haven’t gone down particularly well in any of the countries, eg Venezuela, Nigeria. People need to step outside their comfort zone and refuse the CBDC, and not be good little Britons doing what they’re told.
      I think their CBDC plans are for enslaving the population, but there is plenty of ground for hope – we only need a relatively small percentage of the population to resist it.

      1. We have to resist everything proposed and the attempted instigation by these people. It is our only peaceful weapon. I could not look myself in the face ever again if I went along with any of this, a process that has already started with the masks, the lockdowns and especially the vaccines. Bring it on.

    2. ‘Money,’ wrote Friedrich Hayek, ‘is one of the greatest instruments of freedom ever invented by man.’ As Dostoyevsky put it, ‘money is coined liberty.’ Cash allows people to make transactions discreetly, even if that discretion is sometimes abused. It’s true that financial payments by cheque, card and electronic transfer already account for most transactions. But a cashless world would destroy the last vestiges of privacy, creating a ‘digital panopticon’ overseen by a single watchman, in this case the central bank (and, no doubt, intelligence agencies too), surveying all, judging whether transactions met some arbitrary notion of the public good.

      Edward Chancellor. The Price of Time: The Real Story of Interest (pp. 294-295). Penguin Books Ltd. Kindle Edition.

    3. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least. No wonder they removed all the guns from the public ownership.

  24. The Crooked House (again).

    Britain’s wonkiest pub ‘should be rebuilt brick by brick’
    Fire-hit Crooked House holds ‘real cultural and historical significance’, says West Midlands mayor
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/08/08/britains-wonkiest-pub-should-be-rebuilt-brick-by-brick/

    It will be difficult to recreate something so unusual (and irregular) but a precedent has been set. The Carlton Tavern in Paddington, London, was partly demolished by property developers in 2015 but rebuilt under court order. It had an unusual history – an earlier pub on the site was destroyed in a Gotha bombing raid in WW1 but the new building erected in its place survived the Blitz in WW2. It was due to become a listed building; an application for listing had been made for the Crooked House.

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/mar/21/rising-from-the-rubble-london-pub-rebuilt-brick-by-brick-after-bulldozing
    https://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/news/like-a-puzzle-carlton-tavern-architect-on-rebuilding-bulldozed-london-pub
    https://londonpubsgroup.camra.org.uk/viewnode.php?id=28835

      1. My friend, Mr Rashid, tells me that it is all very straightforward….

        It is one of the many services he offers – at a price, of course.

        1. Perhaps your friend should take on some more staff and spread his interests out and about.

    1. Without doubt photoshopped in, a seal in that position would create a lot of ripples and the ripples on the water already would disappear inside the outer ripple so the seals ripples have been put in too

      1. It’s not a fake. Seals have been seen in Peterborough since the start of the year.

      2. Looks like he’s in VERY shallow water only a couple of inches deep, hence his tail end being out of water.

          1. The bank continues down into the water, you can see the blocks
            The line round the seal is too defined

    2. Without doubt photoshopped in, a seal in that position would create a lot of ripples and the ripples on the water already would disappear inside the outer ripple so the seals ripples have been put in too

  25. 375325+ up ticks,

    May one request that at the next General Election “ring a ring of roses” is played in every polling station, reminding the electoral herd of the trials & tribulations their last vote had us suffer under, as with the one before that,that & that.

    Many of us did NOT make it this time due to a man made plague followed by a man made untested vaccine.

    Eventually when the people culling is recognised for what it really is tis when the bloodletting will commence.

    1. Waycist alert. If an advanced humanoid life form existed in Southern Africa before Homo Sapiens then it must have been so advanced as to have the wit to get the hell out of there and leave the dumbos behind millions of years ago? Are we sure this isn’t an extension of the UFO stories? Aliens built the pyramids and such like?

    2. If it is the same David Keys that I think it is, I would be extremely wary of anything he writes.

  26. How quickly one’s experience becomes outdated. My youngest child is still a teenager, but there are new threats that I’ve never heard of!

    From an article on HARTgroup.org about the state of youth:

    “The final assault upon our children is a physical one; Britain has the highest level of teen vaping in Western Europe. E-cigarette companies market heavily, currently without restriction, to our CYP who are becoming a generation addicted to nicotine. Elf bars from China have been allowed to corner the market and around 2.5 million are now sold in the UK each week earning them £322.1 million in the process. Each contain 600 ‘puffs’ and, like most disposable vapes, roughly the amount of nicotine found in 40 cigarettes. ‘The impact on learning is catastrophic’ states an anonymous secondary school teacher; ‘students who were grade A now have a distinct lack of focus, which we believe is caused by becoming addicted to vaping. Some pupils are distracted and agitated if they can’t leave lessons to go to the toilet and get their fix’.”

    And there was me thinking that vaping looks so stupid and uncool that it would never catch on amongst teens!

          1. I feel sorry for the younger generation if they think vaping is cooler than smoking. Smoking may kill you, but it’s undeniably cool. Vaping is just…weird, like sucking on a baby bottle.

    1. I noticed in Morrisons that they have an enormous selection of vaping kit. I don’t even know what bits do what. Is there an age limit?

  27. Public information announcement. If you are about to drive to France.

    Yer French have introduced a “Ulez type” requirement for an “emission sticker” to be displayed on your car windscreen when in large towns in, er, yer France.

    I passed this info to the MR – who, in middle age, has become an IT whizz-kid. She went online and – in 10 minutes – had the whole kit (and caboodle) sorted.

    This is the French government website:

    https://entreprendre.service-public.fr/vosdroits/R44284?lang=en

    I was very impressed and rewarded her appropriately.

          1. Unless they’ve changed them recently we’ve had one for 10 years or thereabouts, I’m surprised you didn’t.

          2. Look at the link. I think these are new – and allow access to the various large towns and cities that now demand them.
            Certainly none were to be seen in Laure right up to when we left 3½ years ago. Nor in Nice earlier this year. Now one IS required there. And Rouen (where we stay overnight in a couple of weeks).

            The whole thing is a novelty to me.

          3. It certainly looks to be the thing I’ve got.
            I’m fairly sure we obtained ours when we re-registered our English licence plate to a French licence plate and had our first controle technique.
            The number of places it’s needed is increasing.
            We very seldom visit anywhere that could be considered to be a major city, normally by-passing such places.
            Our Land Rover comes in at Crit ‘air level 3

          4. Our last CT was in 2019 -the chap never mentioned anything about the sticker.

            We also avoid large places – but – one never knows when an emergency trip to a hospital may be needed and thus risking a fine for simply going to a city centre.

          5. How old was your car? It might make a difference.
            Either way, looking at the pictures, what I have is the same thing, and came from the same place.
            How memory plays tricks on me now, it seems a long time ago that we did it.

    1. What is the rule for cars registered in the UK? I haven’t read it in full but it seems to apply to vehicles registered in France.

      1. Nah – ALL cars from any country. Open that link and click on “go to online procedure”. That opens a second page with an option to continue for French regd car or foreign car.

  28. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/08/09/lee-anderson-admits-tories-failed-tackling-illegal-migrants/

    That’s over 100,000 incomers a year, for 5 years.

    That’s 2 whole new Southampton’s of economically inactive, illiterate, unskilled, benefit claiming, socially useless mouths to feed. If even 1% are children another 5,000 school places – children with no records, no course history, no grades, who likely can’t speak the language… the list goes on, and on and on.

    They cannot be allowed to stay here. They have got to be removed. Stop gap measures are not sufficient. Every single one must go.

    1. 375325+ up ticks,

      Afternoon W,
      At this moment in time far easier to move what passes for a government, TO JAIL, or the nearest wall.

  29. This morning the August edition of the journal of the Honourable Company of Air Pilots (of which I am an Upper Freeman) dropped through the letterbox and in it was an account of a Company visit to RAF Coningsby, forever famed as the place where was recorded the highest daytime temperature in the UK’s history.

    The article detailed the RAF’s Typhoon force. I thought I’d share it with you so you can get a feel for the state of the modern RAF. Those visiting the base learned that there are five Typhoon squadrons there, only two of which are fully operational, numbers 3(F) and XI(F) squadrons. The others are 29 squadron, the operational conversion unit (OCU), 41 (R) squadron, a test and evaluation unit and 12 Squadron, a training unit shared with the Qatar Air Force. Up at RAF Lossiemouth near Elgin there are four fully operational squadrons, 1(F), 2 (AC), 6 and IX(B) squadrons. So that’s six, maybe seven squadrons since the OCU will have a, possibly limited, war role.

    I don’t know how many aircraft are assigned to each squadron. The usual number when I was serving was 12 but a Harrier squadron I served on had 18, Tornado squadrons I was in on the 1980s had 15 or 16 and the Tornado Weapons Conversion Unit, which was 45(R) squadron and the last squadron on which I served, had 25 but that was abnormal. Given these financially straightened times it’s probably 12 at most.

    Six maybe seven fully operational squadrons of 12 aircraft is 72/84 jets of which probably only 50-60 are servicable on a daily basis for various reasons.

    I don’t know how many pilots are on each operational squadron but to maintain an all-weather day/night 24 hour capability there would have to be more than 2 per airframe but it seems unlikely to me that a squadron of 12 aircraft would have 24-27 pilots. Maybe things have changed, maybe they do. On my Tornado squadrons with 15 aircraft we certainly didn’t have 30 plus crews, more like 18.

    So there you have it, the back bone of the RAF’s defensive and offensive capability (for it does both), the Typhoon force, could muster at the most 72 or 84 jets when push came to shove and a supreme effort was made to get everything airworthy. To this we could add the F35 Lightning IIs of nos 617 and 207 squadrons based at RAF Marham with the 30-odd jets which have so far been delivered.

    The Few have passed through being the Fewer and are now the Fewest. But you can rest easy in your beds at night, your air force is a-woke.

  30. Boiling an egg in a microwave,

    I haven’t got any further than putting a small pyrex jug with 250 ml water @ 20 degC in the microwave and heating it at full power until boiling. It took betwen 0.07 and 0.08 kWh of energy.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5b9a4a7601960f83613a370e4a2156cdcf45278538dd53d1561dc160503a5463.jpg

    Horrified that I might get an explosion by proceeding to add an egg I discovered from BingAI that an egg should preferably be old prewarmed and placed in salty water to prevent an eggsplosion. There were eggowave recipes suggesting than an egg should be raised in temperature on a maximum power of. about 600 watts presumably to avoid a complete disaster.

    I had no idea how to set that on our microwave so asked BingAI what the five settings were:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1c3bccbaacc02e77ead4a8881aea2786dbd16127021867b050c16a473cfc36a5.jpg

    I tried heating up the jug of water for 20 minutes at the lowest setting (No 1) at the same input energy level required to get the water to boiling.

    The water only reached 80 degC and the energy meter read 0,078 kWh.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9800a985c9675ebc68f5385e434a84a4f789acbbf3c546ffad7b53b3b5861517.jpg

    So this setting (No 1 power) had the potential to warm an egg from the fridge at 6 degC up to 80 degC in 20 minutes with an electrical input energy of less than 0.08 kWh.

    The Government has no idea about the consequences of having to resort to microwave cooking when gas is banned and electric power is insufficient to to keep a ring on.

      1. We did look at the possibility of upgrading MOH’s AGA to electricity but the electrics required ugrading to provide two 7kW oven points to handle all the ovens, grill as well as boiling and simmering plates.

          1. My Rayburn cooks the food, runs the central heating and provides lashings of hot water – all for two hods of anthracite a day. No wonder the government wants to ban it!

      2. We did look at the possibility of upgrading MOH’s AGA to electricity but the electrics required ugrading to provide two 7kW oven points to handle all the ovens, grill as well as boiling and simmering plates.

      1. This partly an exercise to test Artificial Intelligence’s limits to scientifically achieve the impossible.

          1. It is not very bright because BingAI gets its answers to your ‘prompt’ questions by trawling the internet albeit incredibly fast to find a reasoned explanation for its answer. You really can’t expect a sensible answer if you don’t ‘prompt’ with a quite explicit or succint question.

            The good thing about BingAI is that it gives you loads of links as the sources for its reasoning. That in itself is useful because you can see how rubbish are the amswers you get or for that matter how stuoid your prompt was

          2. I did not specify to BingAI where I was trying to boill an egg so it was assuming I was at Base Camp Everest:

      2. We have a small, narrow pan, like a stainless steel heavy-base, measuring jug used for boiling Her egg at breakast. Works a treat.

  31. Britain repeatedly warned the European Union (EU) that Argentina would try to “misrepresent” any statement it made on the Falkland Islands.

    However, the EU decided to press ahead and agreed to a statement which referred to the islands as the “Islas Malvinas” – the name used by Argentina.

    The EU is an enemy of the UK and those who connived at this insult to the people of the UK should be arrested and stripped of any assets and authority. The EUSSR is a Nasti(sic) Socialist dictatorship and should be broken up and erased from the face of the earth.

  32. 98% of all illegal immigrants arriving by boat came from FRANCE – they should all be returned to FRANCE and the Frog politicians charged for their food, accommodation and transport back to their ‘place of safety’.

    1. Conservatories were originally for tender, Mediterranean or tropical plants, not for people as extensions to their houses, and were usually built on the North or North-East side of big houses. Not a lot of people know that, it seems.

  33. Help please – I have just posted an upright image of my digital thermometer to show 46.1 degrees. Only after posting did I find it lying on its side.

    BUT, when trying to Edit the post to delete the image and replace it with another (rotated) one, there is no little image icon to upload a replacement.

    Does anyone have the magic words in DISQUS? I speak as a (humbled) Webmaster of many years experience.

  34. Bit of self-help here in case other uploaders have the same problem. Please humour me.
    Let’s try uploading the original plus 3 more versions of that image with different orientations, then try Editing the image links out to leave only the correctly-oriented one. Here goes:

    1. Original upright image
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bbef918f1a7811ac42d2a66778d8360e764d8196cef996262829c050467752a8.jpg

    2. Image rotated 90 deg right
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d4f22c1eabe02f29da9845ea7fc32c6bc634d5ee1c01dea7cd967b7b23871f51.jpg

    3. Image rotated 180 deg right
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b9753f687671bb4045189702de1fa82183550b8dd610d5de0b5ce74a2938f534.jpg

    4. Image rotated 270 deg right
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b9b7a23653477fae497aa5a9361644d61bc21c47a093debf4ccbf70c7937c311.jpg

    DARN! it WORKED! the original image I posted is now the right way up and the others are also correct. But as I observed before, in Edit mode there is no longer an icon for Image upload.

    1. Yes it’s a pain not being able to change the image in Edit if you upload the wrong one.
      I’ve found the only way is to start a new comment, upload the correct image, copy its URL, delete the new comment and paste the copied URL into the old comment to replace the original one.
      Sorry if this doesn’t make sense to everyone, but I don’t know how else to explain it!

      Edit – “it’s” to “its”!

      1. Deleting a Nottl Post
        KenL, just returned to NTTL. I thought of that method too, but I’ve tried to post a second version before, and never found it possible to – as you say – delete the ‘new’ one. You seem to have to leave SOMETHING behind in the empty shell. I have used two full-stops, but it leaves a very untidy ‘husk’ with your name on it for all to see. If you know how to DELETE a post, please tell me (and other Nottlers). It would be very useful.

        1. Hi roughcommon. Sorry, I don’t think I explained it properly – don’t save the new comment. Once you’ve captured the uploaded image URL, simply delete all the characters in the new comment then it won’t get posted. You might need to reload the webpage though, not sure how it works across different browsers/PC/tablet.

          1. KenL
            Got it, thanks!. Previously I have made a duplicate, posted it and THEN tried to delete its contents, only to have my knuckles rapped by Ms DISQUS saying I can’t leave a completely empty post (once it has been posted). Again, many thanks.

        1. One of my fave lines from Ab Fab when Edna’s trying to diet:

          Eddie: I’ll have you know there’s a thin person inside me trying to get out.
          Mother: Just the one, dear?

    1. AHOY THAR CAP’N!
      THAR SHE BLOWS!
      LANDWHALE, 2 POINTS OFF THE LARB’D BOW!

  35. 375325+ up ticks,

    Can it be the truth of the matter that which the treacherous witch may signed can be reversed ?

    Gerard Batten,

    @gjb2021
    ·
    9m
    I have no reason to doubt Mr Anderson’s sincerity BUT … he is being used by his own treacherous Tory Govnt.

    They are happy to let him mouth off voicing the peoples’ “righteous indignation” while they do nothing about the problem. The Tories have had an 80 seat majority (now going down) since Dec 2019 & far from controlling mass immigration they have encouraged it.

    They are using Mr A to try and fool what voters they can to vote Tory next time.

    Putting illegal migrants on barges is just a cynical ploy. The Govnt knows it has created a ‘human rights’ issue it will eventually have to retreat from. It will then blame the lawyers & say ‘not our fault – vote Tory again next time’.

    The problem is a French border problem & the migrants should be sent back there.

    Downing Street backs unrepentant Lee Anderson as he refuses to apologise for migrant comments – LBC,
    Translate post
    Downing Street backs unrepentant Lee Anderson as he refuses to apologise for migrant comments —
    Downing Street backs unrepentant Lee Anderson as he refuses to apologise for migrant comments —

    Downing Street has backed Lee Anderson’s comments about migrants as the Tory deputy chairman refuses to apologise for his controversial remarks.

    1. Mr Anderson exists to be thrown to the Tory supporters whenever Sunak does the exact opposite. He’s there to allow the wet, Left wing, socialist policies appear ‘unwelcome’.

      1. 375323+ up ticks,

        Evening W,

        As I have always maintained they take turns to be the gov, pretendee opposition, pertel for example.

  36. Hello everyone ,

    What do you think of this then?

    https://twitter.com/wappawappa/status/1689284011028279296.

    Very warm afternoon and have been quite busy ..

    Hosted my Veterans lunch do yesterday, and you should have heard what they had to say about the traitors who have defiled our UK.

    The breach of confidentiality in N Ireland is shocking . A member of our group was a judge in NI during the troubles , he served in Korea and Suez doing his bit . He will be turning in his grave knowing the wretched mess the country is in .

    1. It’s depressing, isn’t it…… this country has gone to the dogs and there’s sod all we can do about it except moan to each other on here. Maybe it’s just as well we are nearing the end of our lives.

      1. I and my 92-year-old ex-RAF friend are frequently heard to mutter, “I’m glad I’m old”.

        1. Katie Hopkins often says the saddest emails she receives are those from the old who say they’re glad they’ll soon be gone so they won’t have to see their country finally fall.

          1. The way things are going, I shouldn’t like to be facing the future long term unless there is a drastic change and I don’t see that happening.

        2. When you think how much has changed in the last 50 years or so – most of it not for the better…….

  37. Why I hate the BBC. R4, today’s Today, with Robert Jenrick talking about support for the boat people: “Refuse the barge and we’ll consider with drawing asylum support; the individual would have to fend for himself…” Robinson, before Jenrick even finished the sentence: “They’d be destitute, in other words.”

    Impatient, contemptuous and deserving of the putdown that Jenrick was incapable of offering.

      1. My point was the that subject is irrelevant – it’s the manner that matters.

      2. My point was the that subject is irrelevant – it’s the manner that matters.

    1. Self-inflicted. Asylum-seekers are in no position to dictate terms for their accommodation. True refugees would be happy to accept a tent as long as it meant safety from whatever it is they are fleeing from.

          1. No. I know I said Jenrick should have put Robinson down but the subject of the debate was irrelevant – it could have been anything. It was Robinson’s behaviour that was the problem. Rude, dismissive, bored, superior, lofty.

  38. 1. Late to the party today.
    Had a two and three quarter hour bowls match this morning and won 21-19 after 27 ends to reach the semifinal of the Men’s Championship.
    Exhausted.

  39. 2. From the TaxPayers Alliance. No cost of living crisis in the Snivel Service.

    Our latest research has revealed that the number of civil servants increased by more than 101,000 between 2016 and 2023, a jump of 24 per cent and the largest increase in at least half a century.

    The paper – authored by our chairman, Mike Denham – was splashed across the front page of Daily Telegraph as well as featuring in the Times, Daily Mail, and Express. It was also the feature of discussion across a range of broadcast media.

    The increase in civil service employment between March 2016 and March 2023 is greater than the entire regular forces of the British Army.

    While the pandemic was the main driver of civil service headcount increasing for some of the period, the further growth since March 2022 shows that numbers are not falling following the end of mass testing and covid emergency measures.

    The key findings of research are.

    The expansion has been top-heavy, with 87 per cent of the increase being accounted for by growth in the top three grade levels, who receive between £73,000 and £208,100 plus pension contributions of 30 per cent on top of that. There was an actual decrease in the lowest – and previously most numerous – grade level.

    The largest increase has been in London with an additional 25,505 posts, a growth of 33 per cent.

    The overall staffing structure has been tilted away from operational delivery and towards policy and support functions. Operational delivery – frontline services– fell from 56 per cent of total staff to 52 per cent.

    Grade inflation and pay awards nearly tripled the number of civil servants being paid over £75,000 a year, from 4,470 to 12,045. In addition, 2,050 were paid more than £100,000 and 195 more than £150,000.

    The median average civil service salary increased by 26 per cent over the period.

    The annual salary bill for full-time staff has increased by 59.8 per cent from March 2016 to March 2023, rising from £9.7 billion to £15.5 billion.

    It is estimated that the combined effect of higher staff numbers, grade inflation, and pay awards increased the total annual civil service salary bill to £17.8 billion between March 2016 to March 2023, a rise of 54.8 per cent. This is almost double the growth rate of nominal GDP over the same period.

    All this means that the annual salary bill for full-time staff has increased by 60 per cent and the median average civil service salary has increased by 26 per cent.

    We work hard to maximise the impact of our research. It’s only thanks to supporters like you that we can continue to highlight important issues and force them onto the National agenda.

    1. Sent this email to our MP.

      Mr Lord
      More disgusting figures and government policy continues to shrink the private, wealth generating, sector and fill it with non productive employment in government.
      I have, previously, said to you that neither the Prime Minister nor the Chancellor of the Exchequer, because they were rejected by the Conservative Party membership but why should they be listened to, have any idea of economics and how to grow the economy.
      Before they were both shooed into their current roles they were both in favour of reducing Corporation Tax to attract foreign investment. When appointed the EU and WEF had a word with them and they increased the tax. Also got rid of Article 16 to ensure the annexation of Northern Ireland from the UK is permanent.
      The whole of Parliament should be ashamed of this report but, in all probability, will not even read it because, like so many things these days, it doesn’t fit the narrative.
      We had a prime opportunity to become great again with Brexit but it has been squandered. Are Conservative MPs blind and mute? Still there’s a General Election next year and the giveaways will begin in the new year and the sheeples will, no doubt, be as blind to reality as usual.
      Heaven help us.

    2. It’s been common practice for some years to promote just prior to retirement. I don’t mind the defined benefit pension, but it has to come at the cost of a lower wage. Civil servants face no risks, they’ve no product, no marketing. The income is force backed and fixed, paid without choice or offer of alternative. There are no penalties for failure.

      Thus they are not worth these ssix figure salaries. Pretending they’re equivalent to multinationals is as tired and pointless as using a cobra as a back scratcher. Headcount is completely different to value.

      Then there’s the work. Most of what the civil service does is makework. It’s unnecessary – look at the tracking of which vegetables are planted. Look at the rewilding projects government is paying farmers to not farm. Heck, net zero is utterly destructive, let alone pointless. Energy is a function of the market. Our market is in pieces because big fat state makes it so. Then we have foreign aid. Public money expected to be spent on British services is instead spaffed on Left wing nonsense.

      Then there are the endless quangos that achieve nothing, for nothing except keeping wasters like Chakrabalti in cash.

      1. You eloquently state my feelings.
        It’s obvious the snivel serpents will block anything they don’t like and promote their socialist ideology on anything that would benefit our country and the indigenous peoples.
        They are serfs of the EU and WEF. they are destroying our country aided and abetted by our weak politicians.

  40. Bogey Five – lucky to get there!

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    1. A lucky birdie here.

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        1. Rockall is the final deterrent; the island’s delights include gannets, guillemots and guano . . .

  41. A little birdie for me

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    1. Me too. Got lucky.

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        1. ah well, no luck here
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  42. Now Lee has told the uncooperative illegal immigrants where to go, he should now tell the EU remainers where to get off and make a good week of it.

  43. 375325+ up ticks,

    brietbart,

    World Leaders Must Be ‘Ringmasters’ to Push Green Agenda, Says U.N. Climate Chief in ‘Doomsday’ Interview

    I do believe that ringleaders would be far more apt, fit to swing.

  44. That’s me gone. Curious day – chilly then sunny – then quite nicely warm. Not “boiling”, you understand…!!

    Have a jolly evening.

    A demain

    1. During the 1920s/’30s, the British colonial authorities had WW1 vintage Lee Enfield .303s reworked as single shot .410 shotguns.
      These were then loaded with birdshot and used in riot control to reduce the of risk death or serious injury to the rioters.

      1. Fake.
        It really read:
        Share this amongst all your friends so they will feel welcome and come here too.

  45. 375325+ up ticks,

    Wishful thinking but if we could instil in the majority voters brains ( if located) the vision of hancock and co being given the run of the “Gain of function research laboratories” what could be achieved in the way of horror.

    These twisted politico / pharma tw@ts are bad enough dabbling with things they have some knowledge of, heaven help us with what, could so easily happen, be about the receive.

  46. Even after all these years I still remember my granddad’s last words.
    “Boy, stop shaking the ladder!”

  47. Even after all these years I still remember my granddad’s last words.
    “Boy, stop shaking the ladder!”

  48. IF ONLY:

    “Khan banned from holding office for five years” The Grimes online

      1. Because if they banned corrupt politicians for life they wouldn’t have any at all.

        1. Corruption amongst politicians is merely in the eye pocket of the beholder recipient

  49. Been into town late afternoon. A couple of observations:

    1. Temperature on my car display while driving throught the centre 28℃. Temperature back in our village 20 minutes later 22℃. A perfect illustration of the Urban Heat Island effect.

    2. BAME count noticeable higher, many of them single men with back-packs walking about. Hijab count noticably higher too. Twenty years ago there were no non-white faces here.

    1. 1. Air 31° Pool 28°
      2. The counts on all fronts have risen exponentially since we arrived.

      3. Graffiti has exploded in direct proportion to the darkest hues.

      1. Mindless graffiti.
        Oddly enough we have a lot of very fine street art pictures on building’s walls in the centre, but I suspect they are done by professionals.

    2. It’s a well-known fact (but, obviously not to the climate fanatics in charge of planning) that urban temperatures are at least 2 degrees C higher than rural ones. It’s also well known that buildings create urban hotspots. Someone should point this out to those who are determined to cover the land with housing.

  50. Am I being unreasonable?
    Normally, yes of course!
    We offered a friend a free week in our cottage. They read the email, but couldn’t even be bothered to acknowledge the offer.
    Two weeks later HG phoned to check if they had received it.
    They had.
    It’s probably not a lot to them but to us it’s three weeks plus of food shopping for a week we could have filled.
    I’m more than slightly pissed off, because we were waiting for a reply before booking something for ourselves.

    Needless to say prices have risen and I’m now out of pocket, so I won’t be offering it again.

    1. That is appalling. I wonder if there was a valid reason like a death. If you wish to remain friends i would suggest you tell them how you feel.

      1. No.
        They just preferred another location.
        Fair enough, but at least have the courtesy to decline the offer.
        HG is far more tolerant than I, and I’ve been forbidden to make my feelings known.

        1. In that case i would put my foot down next time and veto them being offered again.

          If i were offered such a thing and unable to take up the offer not only would i offer my profuse thanks i would also send flowers as a thank you for thinking of me.

          1. You are a gentleman, in the old fashioned sense of the expression.

            Don’t worry, the offer won’t be given again.

          2. I did look over Sos’s rental but its 1970’s furnishings clashed with my sense of good taste.

    2. When I try to organise charter fishing trips and people back out a couple of days beforehand it drives me bananas. The cost gets spread between the remaining crew who go. I’m now down to a very short list of anglers I ask to see if they’re interested.
      The worst part is that they don’t even see how they inconvenience others.

    3. Morning sos.

      You are no way being unreasonable. Goodness me the very least they should have done was acknowledge your offer, that’s an appalling way to behave.

  51. Evening rant: On second thoughts I’ll sleep on it and do it in the morning.

    1. Nah, get it off your chest.

      Otherwise you’ll stew all night, sleep badly and be less coherent in the morning.

          1. Some people have become very rich on that site just for posing in skimpy clothes. If you ever need some extra money you could show an ankle.

    2. I’ve got one of those. I had a reply today from the hospital where I think my heart disorder was shoved aside.Lthough it took two years before it was fixed.
      It was all my fault.
      And when I was in hospital just before Christmas sitting in triage for 18 hours in a chair. Then filled with drugs and and the doctor stood at the door at least 25 ft away with a lot of back ground noise and I couldn’t hear what he was saying. Also my fault.
      The management are getting an effing rocket later this week.
      More to come.

      1. Certainly make your feelings known but don’t swear. If you do it gives them an excuse to stop listening.

        1. Yes thanks,🙂 it was a long time getting it done. And it seems that the hospital are blaming me because it took them nearly two years to get me the appointment.
          My pulse rate is spot on. BP good.

  52. Evening, all. I think it’s the Conservatives’ crusade (more like a jihad, to be honest) against conservative principles that is alienating voters, whether urban or rural.

  53. “Republicans on the House Oversight Committee on Wednesday revealed over $20 million in payments they claim foreign actors from places like Russia, Ukraine and Kazakhstan sent the Biden family and their associates while Joe Biden was vice president.
    Hunter specifically received millions from Russian oligarch Yelena Baturina, Ukrainian energy giant Burisma, and Kazakh oligarch Kenes Rakishev while father Joe was VP, the committee found.”

    Hardly worth getting out of bed for…..

    1. Biden is a cheapskate bully and thug. He could be likened to a third rate hustler during prohibition. He might have made a few tens of millions by selling the US down the river. An amateur considering the multi-million dollar benefits enjoyed by America’s enemies following his traitorous actions.

      The really serious crooks and the serious money was extracted by the Obamas and the Clintons. How else could those vacuous shits afford multi-million dollar houses in the most desirable locations and ‘bob’ around the world as political celebrity pop stars?

        1. It’s never too late to do the right thing. Are you proposing we continue to accept looting without any serious consequences to the looters?

          1. You’re right, Sos. My apologies. I read “Well past the time…” as “Far too late to…”

          2. Easily done, particularly when a comment is read in isolation from others in a thread and away from the comment that raised the reply.

      1. Does that include the mob of looters in Westminster ?
        132 million in expenses two or three years ago.

    1. The police can’t keep up with the crimes being committed in the UK now. Shop lifting alone now comes to almost one billion pounds in loses.

  54. I wonder if the UK could hire Wagner scuba divers from Putin, to puncture rubber boats as they leave French beaches.
    I’m reasonably sure it would be a lot cheaper than towing them all into the UK and housing the occupants.

  55. Perhaps the Home Office was a bit overworked. After, it lets in so many that it’s hardly surprising there’s an error or two now and then. Sorree!

    Home Office ‘knew Afghan murderer was terror threat’ year before he killed aspiring Marine

    Inquest heard Lawangeen Abdulrahimzai was referred to Prevent over concerns he was ‘susceptible to terrorism’

    By Alex Barton • 9th August 2023 • 5:46pm

    The Home Office had been aware an Afghan asylum seeker was a possible terror threat a year before he murdered a young man in a row over a rental e-scooter, an inquest heard.

    Thomas Roberts, 21, an aspiring Royal Marine, was stabbed to death by Lawangeen Abdulrahimzai as he acted as a “peacemaker” in an argument between the killer and his friend in Bournemouth, Dorset, in March last year.

    Abdulrahimzai, who arrived in the UK in December 2019, claimed he was 14 years old when he entered the country but the courts discovered he had been 18. It also emerged that Abdulrahimzai was put in foster care on his arrival in the UK despite being a convicted criminal. He was given a 20-year prison term for murdering two people with a Kalashnikov assault rifle in Serbia.

    Abdulrahimzai was sentenced at Salisbury Crown Court in January to life imprisonment to serve a minimum of 29 years, with immigration minister Robert Jenrick saying he was likely to be deported at the end of his sentence.

    A pre-inquest review into the death of Mr Roberts heard the Home Office’s Prevent anti-terrorism programme had been aware of Abdulrahimzai.

    Adam Farrer, representing the Home Office, told the hearing: “We were given instruction that there is to be a further review by the Prevent homeland security department within the Home Office. As we understand it, in 2021 Mr Abdulrahimzai was referred to Prevent due to concerns that he was susceptible to terrorism.”

    He added that the review had been launched into this development.

    Mr Farrer said a review of the Home Office’s role in processing Abdulrahimzai’s immigration status had been completed but this would be restricted as it could reveal procedures used when processing applicants.

    He told the hearing: “The review is an internal report commissioned by the Home Office’s professional standards unit to review the actions taken by the Home Office in relation to Mr Abdulrahimzai and it was commissioned on the basis it would not be published, it is a private, internal report.

    “The report contains day-to-day policies which are public but also operating processes, detailed background security processing which are highly sensitive which could be used by those who wish to abuse the asylum process if they were aware of how the Home Office deals with criminal checks. For example, it is well known that if you are a minor or a child there are different rules than if you are an adult as we saw in this particular sad case, Mr Abdulrahimzai claimed to be a minor when he was first encountered by Home Office employed staff.”

    Coroner Rachael Griffin criticised the Home Office after the father of Mr Roberts, Philip Roberts, revealed to the hearing that he had not received any contact regarding the reviews into his son’s killer as well as for failings in disclosing information to her office.

    She said: “I am astounded that Tommy’s family have not been told about the review and I am sure you will feed that back and I would urge them to get in contact as soon as possible. It’s totally unacceptable what has happened over the past six or seven months as we have chased our tails to find out what has happened.”

    Ms Griffin also asked Bournemouth, Christchurch and Poole Council to provide details of its age assessment checks carried out on Abdulrahimzai as well as for Dorset Police to provide their files on the case and details of any internal review carried out.

    Mr Roberts also asked the coroner to check with police about reports that police were aware that Abdulrahimzai had been carrying a knife in the days before his son’s death.

    The inquest was adjourned for a further hearing on January 9 2024.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/08/09/home-office-prevent-asylum-seeker-murder-thomas-roberts/

    1. So why wasn’t he in prison in Serbia then, if he had been given a 20 year sentence? Something not right there.
      Should hang him, he has killed too many people and is a danger to society.

  56. Welsh Labour’s 20mph speed limit ‘has increased dangerous driving’

    Restrictions will apply to all residential roads from next month as drivers in pilot zones say they see more instances of road rage

    By Jack Simpson, Transport Correspondent • 9 August 2023 • 6:46pm

    Residents in a town currently under 20mph speed limits brought in by Welsh Labour have said the restrictions have increased dangerous driving.

    The town of Buckley, in Flintshire, was named as one of the pilot zones for the Welsh government’s 20mph limit, with the restrictions being brought in last February 2022. The government will make all residential roads 20mph next month. Residents say they have seen more instances of road rage and dangerous driving since the limit was brought in.

    Martin Bailey, who lives in the town, told ITV News: “We’ve seen overtakes happen in areas where they didn’t need to previously – we’ve seen tailgating, it actually makes it harder for people to cross the road in certain places. People are not paying as much attention, they don’t believe they need to have as much care, and consequently they’re a lot closer to other cars.”

    Buckley was one of eight pilot zones that have seen 20mph limits brought in. Welsh Labour says the policy will reduce traffic accidents and decrease car use. However, the widespread introduction of the limits, due to take place on Sept 17, has been met with opposition by some drivers in the pilot zones.

    In Buckley, residents have begun tying red ribbons on the front of their cars in protest against the plans. A group called The Buckley, Mynydd Isa and Bryn Y Baal 20mph Pilot Scheme Opposition Group has been set up to campaign against the changes.

    Mr Bailey said residents were particularly against having 20mph speed limits on main arterial roads, which he believes makes it harder for people to cross as the cars were travelling closer together. He said: “The answer is a sensible compromise to keep the main five to 10 per cent of arterial roads at 30mph and set the residential roads to 20mph.

    “20mph does make sense – and the majority of people that live around here already drive at a sensible speed anyway, they drive to the conditions of the road. It’s just the arterial road where we wouldn’t expect children to be playing in the first place.”

    The Welsh Conservatives said that they would expect to see a lot more red ribbons tied to cars before the nationwide rollout takes place. Natasha Asghar, the Welsh Conservatives’ shadow transport minister, said: “Drivers continue to feel frustrated and ignored by the Labour government and feel that a visual protest is the only way to have their concerns noticed. The Labour government still has time to U-turn on this anti-driver, anti-worker and anti-road agenda, and that’s what the Welsh Conservatives are calling on them to do.”

    A Welsh government spokesman said: “Decreasing speeds not only reduces collisions and saves lives but improves the quality of life – making room on our streets for safer active travel, whilst helping reduce our environmental impact.”

    On Wednesday the Welsh Conservatives accused the Welsh government of making its “own problems worse” with vanity projects like the 20mph roll-out. The comments came after Mark Drakeford, the First Minister, called on his ministers to find cuts in public services as a result of inflation and public sector pay putting a squeeze on the government’s budget. The First Minister revealed his government was £900 million short of the £20 billion budget set in 2021, and described it as the “toughest financial situation” it had faced since 1999.

    Andrew RT Davies, the Tory Senedd leader, said: “Only back in March the Labour government, and their cooperation agreement partners in Plaid Cymru, sent back £150 million to the UK Treasury that they failed to spend. Now they’re saying they don’t have enough money. You couldn’t make it up.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/08/09/labour-wales-20mph-speed-limit-increased-dangerous-driving/

  57. Welsh Labour’s 20mph speed limit ‘has increased dangerous driving’

    Restrictions will apply to all residential roads from next month as drivers in pilot zones say they see more instances of road rage

    By Jack Simpson, Transport Correspondent • 9 August 2023 • 6:46pm

    Residents in a town currently under 20mph speed limits brought in by Welsh Labour have said the restrictions have increased dangerous driving.

    The town of Buckley, in Flintshire, was named as one of the pilot zones for the Welsh government’s 20mph limit, with the restrictions being brought in last February 2022. The government will make all residential roads 20mph next month. Residents say they have seen more instances of road rage and dangerous driving since the limit was brought in.

    Martin Bailey, who lives in the town, told ITV News: “We’ve seen overtakes happen in areas where they didn’t need to previously – we’ve seen tailgating, it actually makes it harder for people to cross the road in certain places. People are not paying as much attention, they don’t believe they need to have as much care, and consequently they’re a lot closer to other cars.”

    Buckley was one of eight pilot zones that have seen 20mph limits brought in. Welsh Labour says the policy will reduce traffic accidents and decrease car use. However, the widespread introduction of the limits, due to take place on Sept 17, has been met with opposition by some drivers in the pilot zones.

    In Buckley, residents have begun tying red ribbons on the front of their cars in protest against the plans. A group called The Buckley, Mynydd Isa and Bryn Y Baal 20mph Pilot Scheme Opposition Group has been set up to campaign against the changes.

    Mr Bailey said residents were particularly against having 20mph speed limits on main arterial roads, which he believes makes it harder for people to cross as the cars were travelling closer together. He said: “The answer is a sensible compromise to keep the main five to 10 per cent of arterial roads at 30mph and set the residential roads to 20mph.

    “20mph does make sense – and the majority of people that live around here already drive at a sensible speed anyway, they drive to the conditions of the road. It’s just the arterial road where we wouldn’t expect children to be playing in the first place.”

    The Welsh Conservatives said that they would expect to see a lot more red ribbons tied to cars before the nationwide rollout takes place. Natasha Asghar, the Welsh Conservatives’ shadow transport minister, said: “Drivers continue to feel frustrated and ignored by the Labour government and feel that a visual protest is the only way to have their concerns noticed. The Labour government still has time to U-turn on this anti-driver, anti-worker and anti-road agenda, and that’s what the Welsh Conservatives are calling on them to do.”

    A Welsh government spokesman said: “Decreasing speeds not only reduces collisions and saves lives but improves the quality of life – making room on our streets for safer active travel, whilst helping reduce our environmental impact.”

    On Wednesday the Welsh Conservatives accused the Welsh government of making its “own problems worse” with vanity projects like the 20mph roll-out. The comments came after Mark Drakeford, the First Minister, called on his ministers to find cuts in public services as a result of inflation and public sector pay putting a squeeze on the government’s budget. The First Minister revealed his government was £900 million short of the £20 billion budget set in 2021, and described it as the “toughest financial situation” it had faced since 1999.

    Andrew RT Davies, the Tory Senedd leader, said: “Only back in March the Labour government, and their cooperation agreement partners in Plaid Cymru, sent back £150 million to the UK Treasury that they failed to spend. Now they’re saying they don’t have enough money. You couldn’t make it up.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/08/09/labour-wales-20mph-speed-limit-increased-dangerous-driving/

  58. Decent day, weather good three loafs made, White bloomer, wholemeal bloomer, and tinned Stollen. It seems to fall flat if its not baked in a tin.
    I even went for a short walk. Amazing how it effected me, I had a cuppa sat in an armchair and fell asleep for an hour.
    Off to bed now.
    Night all. 😴
    Good prog on bbc 4 now Forest Field and Sky. Being recorded.

    1. No, but I have been in and out most of the day. I do hope she is okay, I do admit to feeling some concern.

  59. Goodnight, all. I have an early start tomorrow; have to report for duty at RAF Shawbury before 09.30. I’m helping man the RAFA stall.

      1. No, I’m leaving them at home – too distracting! Oscar has to go to the groomers to have his nails clipped later, so I have to drug him up.

  60. Here’s one of the Will Cummins articles I promised earlier.

    Muslims are a threat to our way of life

    WILL CUMMINS

    From The Sunday Telegraph, July 25th 2004

    In 1748, the novelist Horace Walpole had cause to draw attention, in a letter, to the outrageous behaviour in France of Bonnie Prince Charlie, the exiled leader of 1745’s failed Jacobite revolt. Prince Charles Edward Stuart was terrorising Louis XV – the rebellion’s mentor, on whom Charles relied for everything – with endless threats and the most insolent demands. Walpole could not help remarking on the narrowness of Britain’s escape.

    “What a mercy,” he wrote to the Duke of Newcastle, the then Prime Minister, “that we had not him here!” If, said Walpole, the Pretender was prepared to bully the government of France, even though he was entirely in its power, what would he have done with a British government under his control?

    And what, I have been asking in recent articles, would Islam’s equally insouciant “exiles” in Britain do with a UK government in their power? Indications from the Leicester South and Birmingham Hodge Hill by-elections were not encouraging.

    Konrad Henlein, the Nazi leader of the Sudeten Germans – whose cynical attitude to liberal, democratic, minority-friendly inter-war Czechoslovakia offers a metaphor for what we face – once observed: “We must always demand so much that we are never satisfied.” He wouldn’t have got very far in Leicester South, where the idea of refusing Muslim voters any part of their global Jihadi agenda was so distant from the candidates’ minds that they couldn’t even wait to be asked.

    However, my fellow Telegraph writer Jenny McCartney is plagued by a very different anxiety. She is deeply concerned for, not because of, Britain’s burgeoning Muslim population. It is the persecuted Jews of the Third Reich, not its Nazis, to whom we should compare this notoriously gifted, useful and self-effacing group, she has written in her column of July 18.

    Jenny sees in the revulsion for Islam displayed by the British National Party an echo of the anti-Semitism to which hideous German publications like Der Sturmer gave vent. Though why she has to ransack back numbers of hoary Fascist tradesheets when almost every mainstream Muslim paper in the world today is full of loathsome anti-Jewish rants and images isn’t clear.

    “In the miserable event” of “an al-Qaeda attack in Britain”, she wrote last week – which repeated warnings from our Government have termed inevitable – “there is little doubt in my mind that assaults on peaceful, law-abiding British Muslims would increase”.

    Well, it’s good to know that, as the rest of us hug our bottles of Evian in the irradiated ruins, mourning thousands of dead, Jenny will be lying awake at night worrying that someone might drop a dog poo through the letterbox of her local balti house. Such outrages, she warns, will be “fanned by an increasingly hysterical rhetoric – already in place – that encourages non-Muslim Britons to see each and every Muslim citizen as a threat”. Whose rhetoric is that exactly?

    The Guardian newspaper is the Bible – perhaps one should say the Koran? – of Islamo-fascist Britain. However, it has recently been lending its opinion pages to one Fuad Nahdi, a leading Islamic “moderate” who publishes Q-News, a magazine for young UK Muslims. When two British Muslims launched a suicide attack in Israel, this is what he wrote in The Guardian of May 2, 2003: “I am not surprised by news of Britain’s first suicide bombers. What, however, I find astonishing is that it took place in Tel Aviv, not Manchester.” He goes on to say, “We should brace ourselves for the forthcoming intifada on the streets of Birmingham and Detroit.”

    Mr Nahdi, who arrived in Britain from Kenya in 1983, is comparing himself and his fellow Muslims here to the Palestinians conducting the second intifada against Israel. In Muslim folklore, the Palestinians are a native people disposessed by Zionist invaders. Mr Nahdi seems not to have grasped that, in Britain, he and the rest of the faithful are the “Jewish settlers”, we, the usurped Palestinians. If anybody is going to mount an intifada against the invader, it will be us.

    Jenny writes that those who are afraid of Islam ignore the diversity of the religion, which replicates that of Christianity itself. Christianity too, she writes, has its extremists. To which one might, like St Paul, say, “and what has Christ to do with Baal?” All Muslims, like all dogs, share certain characteristics. A dog is not the same animal as a cat just because both species are comprised of different breeds. An extreme Christian believes that the Garden of Eden really existed; an extreme Muslim flies planes into buildings – there’s a big difference.

    If, for instance, Muslims meet with defeats in the Balkans (a fact which Jenny finds deeply disturbing), it will certainly not have been for want of trying. It is more a tribute to their incompetence than their humanity. As the Tunisian intellectual Abdelwahab Meddeb points out in his recent book La maladie de l’Islam, Muslims’ defeats are a symptom, not a cause, of Muslim decline.

    When his children became “a thwart, disnatured torment to us all”, the scales fell even from King Lear’s eyes. But “Jenny Wren” McCartney wishes Britain to feed the cuckoo in its nest because that’s what wrens have always done. Doesn’t she think that cuckoo looks, and behaves, a little like the “detested kite” to which Lear compared Goneril?
    ______________________________________________________________________________________________________

    Labour lost to the Lib Dems in Leicester South and only just held them off in Birmingham Hodge Hill in by-elections that were a vote on Iraq.

    Liam Byrne was the candidate in Birmingham (he of the memo “The money’s run out’ after the 2010 GE). His campaign team was led by Noncefinder General Tom Watson, producing leaflets with slogans such as “Labour is on your side, the Lib Dems are on the side of failed asylum seekers” and “While Labour were tough the Lib Dems were wimps – they tried to stop us taking away benefits from failed asylum seekers and they voted against plans to speed up deportations.” Really? The Labour Party that was waving them in?

    1. The desperation the state has to protect Muslims – clearly hte most dangerous, intolerant, vicious and clearly refusing to integrate, while being economically inactive en masse, far too many completely welfare dependent.

      The frustrating thing is there is a branch of Islam which is nigh the exact opposite of all that. In any case they are culturally, socially and religiously incompatible with this country, our ethics and morals.

    1. 🎶Happy Birthday to you!🎶 omim – have a lovely day. You will be catching us all up….. 🎉🥳🥂🍾🍰🎂🎉

  61. Well chums, it’s been a busy but enjoyable day for me. Good night, and I hope you all sleep well.

  62. What a star!

    Diane Abbott deletes tweet saying migrants who drowned off Italy have ‘indeed f—– off’

    MP had Labour whip suspended in April after writing an alleged anti-Semitic letter to a newspaper

    By Telegraph Reporters • 9th August 2023 • 10:02pm

    Diane Abbott has been criticised after saying migrants who drowned off Italy have “indeed f—— off” in a now deleted tweet. The independent MP for Hackney North and Stoke Newington tweeted “These migrants have indeed f—– off. To the bottom of the sea” as she shared a news story about the disaster in the Mediterranean.

    The post was a response to a comment made by Lee Anderson, the deputy chairman of the Conservative Party, who earlier this week said asylum seekers complaining about being moved on to an accommodation barge should “f— off back to France”.

    Brendan Clarke-Smith, a Tory former minister, tweeted: “And to think that Sir Keir Starmer campaigned for this person to be made our home secretary. We all know that you can’t take Labour seriously on immigration or national security, but what a shame they also seek to exploit tragedies like this to push their warped agenda.”

    A Conservative spokesman said Ms Abbott’s tweet was “wrong”. “The fact that she deleted it suggests she agrees with us,” they added.

    It is believed that 41 out of 45 migrants died after a boat capsized off Tunisia in rough seas. The metal boat left Sfax, Tunisia on Aug 3, but the vessel was overturned by a huge wave hours into the journey. Survivors were taken to the island of Lampedusa on Wednesday after a rescue operation.

    Ms Abbott’s tweet was not the first criticism she made of the Tory deputy chairman for his comments. Ms Abbott, who once served as shadow home secretary, had previously described Mr Anderson’s comments as “a new low even for the Tories”. But ministers have rallied around Ashfield MP Mr Anderson, with Justice Secretary Alex Chalk suggesting his “indignation” was “well placed” after only 15 migrants had initially entered the Bibby Stockholm accommodation barge.

    The transfer of migrants on to the vessel has been mired in difficulty and delays amid safety concerns, local opposition and legal challenges.

    Ms Abbott had the Labour whip suspended in April for suggesting Jewish, Irish and traveller people are not subject to racism “all their lives” in a letter to the Observer newspaper.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/08/09/diane-abbott-deletes-tweet-migrants-drowned-italy

    1. Thanks Geoff – today’s page doesn’t seem to open as usual from the app on my phone, only from the link you put on yesterday’s page. I haven’t tried yet from the top banner on my laptop.

      1. Morning, Jools, Now sorted. WordPress had an update yesterday, and the simple act of ticking a box for “Open link in new tab” has vanished. Now it takes around half a dozen mouse clicks to find it. Progress indeed… 🙄

        1. Oh…….. thanks for doing that Geoff – I sometimes use that link, sometimes your post on the previous day. I know different people have their own habits.

          Remembering the argument some weeks ago on that topic between Bill and Tom – has anyone seen Tom today?

          1. Oh no…… I wonder if he’s been carted off to hospital again. His sleep patterns are so disrupted that he sleeps at odd times, but is usually the first post each day. I’l send an email and see if he replies.

          2. Just looked at that post and it was the last one so I’ve emailed. If he doesn’t reply I’ll assume he did go to hospital, but I hope he’s survived.

          3. Richard II is on the case, Jools. I’m rather more concerned re. Ann. Her last post was on Sunday. Obviously, she has much to deal with, but emails also go unanswered.

          4. That is worrying – she popped in several times last week and sounded fairly cheerful, all things considered. But maybe she has family with her by now, so is busy in that way. It’s now 10 days since her husband died so she must be busy with organising the funeral, etc. There is a much longer interval these days
            from death to funeral.

            I saw Richard’s post and he has spoken to Tom.

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