718 thoughts on “Wednesday 11 September: Boris Johnson and the conspiracy that left Julius Caesar ‘dead in a ditch’”

    2. Good morning, everyone. Just 50 days to Brexit (hopefully). I’m keeping count and will remind you all at 10 day intervals.

  2. The silencing of the people. Spiked. 10 September 2019.

    It is perverse for MPs to claim to be silenced. They have had more than three years to enact Brexit. They have been part of the longest parliamentary session since the English Civil War of 1642-1651. It reached that landmark on 7 May this year. By that point, the current parliamentary session had been running for 298 sitting days, or 2,657 hours and 56 minutes.

    Morning everyone. This sitting without coming to a conclusion is of course intended. It is a filibuster. Keep it up long enough and no Brexit of any kind will ever occur.

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/09/10/the-silencing-of-the-people/

    1. Because Parliament is Sovereign, it only has itself to blame for having to clear the chamber.
      The Queen didn’t do it because she doesn’t have an opinion on the matter.
      It must have had something to do with the Excutive’s Fiat.

      Tony has to Fix It Again.

      Morning Tony.

      1. ‘Morning, Angie.

        Point of order, if I may…Sovereignty comes from the people (or the electorate if you prefer) and is entrusted to Parliament. The wholesale betrayal of that trust will have dire consequences.

          1. Our MPs – a mixture of arrogance and remoteness? Never mind, a GE must happen soon, if only to break the paralysis.

          2. Not until the remainers have perfected their way of sabotaging the votes. Can’t have anything go wrong to their plans, can they?

          3. No doubt if the Conservatives come to an arrangement with the Brexit part over what seat to fight that will be deemed illegal but a similar arrangement between Labour and the LIb-Dems will be deemed to be fine

  3. BBC Farming Today

    Reporter asks why UK farmers aim to keep producing meat now that the current fad of going vegan to save the planet is taking hold.

    Farmers say we’ll just have to send our meat to other countries where they can’t grow grass like we do in UK.

    1. What I find ironic is that the very people that keep saying that leaving the EU will threaten our farmers are the same ones that promote the climate change scam with plans to stop meat production and re-wild the countryside.

    2. I’m fairly certain about this, but I’m open to advice, Avocados won’t grow on the North Yorkshire moors. Sheep will, however.

      1. I believe you to be correct re avocados. Only the other evening I watched a programme that showed how avocados were grown and guacamole was made in Mexico. The avocado trees were growing in the tropical climate of Michoacán, Mexico on rich volcanic soil. I believe that neither of those requirements for avocado production exist on the North Yorshire moors.

        1. “Guacamole”, Korky? Have the pesky moles started to create mole-hills in your garden? :-))

          1. Morning, Elsie.

            Fortunately, no. I and an adjoining neighbour had a problem some years ago but it ended after a couple of years: probably taken by a cat or fox.

          3. Bury empty bottles with the neck above ground, Geoff. The wind whistles over the opening and the moles don’t like it. Much like us with the anti-democratic mob in (toxic) Wasteminster.

          5. Either that or buy some children’s toy windmills and stick those in the ground; works on a similar principle. Empty bottles are cheaper, though, because you get to drink the contents first 🙂

  4. Morning all

    SIR – Historians say that, when Julius Caesar crossed the Rubicon with his army in 49 BC, he had good reason, as the Senate was corrupt and elitist. (In fact he aligned himself with the Populares party, which represented the people.)

    Caesar was slain in March 44 BC. He was 55 years old. The impact of his death was the opposite of what the conspirators had intended, and there was a civil war. All the conspirators came to a very sticky end.

    Boris Johnson’s predicament has much to do with Parliament’s desire to support a corrupt, elitist and unaccountable EU against the will of the people. This month the conspirators in Parliament will seek to “slay” Mr Johnson. He too will be 55 years old.

    If history were to repeat itself, what might be the fate of the main conspirators and their supporters?

    Michael Mason
    Nottingham

    SIR – On Monday night voters witnessed one of the most disgraceful and dismal episodes in parliamentary history.

    Victoria Baillon
    Hornblotton, Somerset

    1. If history were to repeat itself, what might be the fate of the main conspirators and their supporters?

      That’s true Mr Mason but it was still the end of Democracy!

  5. Morning again

    SIR – The 21 Tory MPs who had the whip removed are constantly referred to as “moderates”. This is puzzling.

    What is moderate about aligning with a Marxist Leader of the Opposition in order to prevent the Government from delivering on the result of a referendum? The behaviour of these individuals is nothing short of revolutionary.

    Paul Dyer
    London SW18

    1. They’re called ‘Moderates’ coz the BBC says so. Anyone who doesn’t agree with the BBC is an Extremist, again coz the BBC says so. that’s how it is supposed to work and does work.

    2. Spot on, Paul Dyer. There really is nothing ‘moderate’ about MPs who vote against their own government, the effect of which may well be to bring it down. Just at the critical moment when their PM and those who placed them there needed their loyal support, they decided to hand power to those who are not in government. ‘Betrayal’ doesn’t even get close to their actions. I trust that they will be barred from the party for life, and deprived of the peerages and other awards that some of them crave.

      ‘Morning, Epi.

    1. For the past week the forecast for today in my neck of the woods was for a fairly long period of rain today. Then, late last night, this changed to “dry all day”. So instead of staying indoors all day and gloating that Mother Nature was doing the gardening for me, I now have to get out and do some planting, pruning and, later on, watering. Drat and double drat! Off to the garden now. (Good morning, Bill, btw. Regards to the Most Recent.)

  8. SIR – Mr Speaker Bercow has done more than anyone to undermine and diminish parliamentary debate by his aggressive, at times offensive, manner towards both ministers and members of the House of Commons. This lack of respect for honourable members and a fondness for the sound of his own voice have helped to bring Parliament into disrepute.

    Although I do not share his politics, I believe that Lindsay Hoyle, the Deputy Speaker, has what it takes to command the respect of the House. Hopefully we will see a return to reasonable debate, and the current bear-pit politics of our legislators will come to an end.

    Roger Howard
    Bishop’s Waltham, Hampshire

    3. I agree that Hoyle seems to be a safe pair of hands.

      Summing up the others:
      Harman – aggressive remainer feminist – the continuity candidate
      Winterton – dodgy over expenses
      Bryant – gay Christian pro-Israel, pro-Palestine
      Laing – fearsome dragon matron
      Wishart – Remain
      Leigh – Leave
      Skinner – Prospective Father of the House, with ultimate responsibility over Parliament once Clarke retires. He’d be a great Speaker.

  9. Row over ‘fascist’ job title as migration post for ‘protecting our European way of life’ announced. 10 SEPTEMBER 2019.

    The incoming European Commission was accused of dog-whistle politics after announcing the commissioner responsible for migration policy would be called the “vice-president for protecting our European way of life”.

    MEPs and trade unions criticised the title as “fascist”, “deeply insulting”, “populist claptrap” and “grotesque” because it suggested that Europe had to be protected from migrants.

    Methinks they doth protest too much! This is just a cynical ploy to appear friendly to a Populist idea. One of the basic tenets of the EU is the abolition of National Identity. What better way than Mass Immigration?

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/09/10/new-european-commission-caught-row-fascist-job-title/

    2. ‘Morning AS, why do lefty organisations always like long job titles that more often than not are the opposite of what they mean? The title says ‘protecting our European way of life’ but actually means protecting the EU and the EU’s vision of what the European way of life should be – definitely not a mix of European cultures.

      1. Morning Hoppy. I think this sort of manoeuvre comes from the time when they could convince themselves that the peasants were fooled by it. The internet has changed that!

  10. SIR – The American constitution begins with the words: “We the people…” How does the EU constitution begin?

    Alan Judge
    Deeping St James, Lincolnshire

    Nobody knows but it ends with a fiendish chortle of “Gotcha!!”

    2. A good article on the EU Constitution from 2005:
      https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/hard-look-european-constitution

      “The vast majority of the European public has not read it and does not know what is in it. That has partly to do with the length of the Constitution (70,000 words) and its impenetrable language. In contrast, the U.S. Constitution is 15 times shorter and easily comprehensible. Not surprisingly, its chief architect, James Madison, believed that “It will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood.””

  11. Justin Welby prostrates himself in apology for British massacre at Amritsar. Tue 10 Sep 2019 .

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ae6fe9bc21f1b0b2ca82ba168f37e46a37e6d58241abd37be2ec144c49797290.jpg

    The archbishop of Canterbury has apologised “in the name of Christ” for the 1919 massacre at Amritsar in India, when hundreds of people were shot dead by British forces.

    Prostrating himself at the memorial to the Jallianwala Bagh killings, Justin Welby said: “The souls of those who were killed or wounded, of the bereaved, cry out to us from these stones and warn us about power and the misuse of power.

    Berk!

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/10/justin-welby-apologises-in-name-of-christ-british-massacre-amritsar

        1. Morning OB.

          Have you heard about this, and is it worse than reported?

          Mysterious illness kills dozens of dogs in Norway with otherwise-healthy pets dropping dead in days after suffering bloody vomit and diarrhoea
          Some 200 dogs have shown symptoms of bloody diarrhoea, vomit and fatigue
          25 of the pups have died and autopsies on 10 revealed severe intestinal infection
          Most cases have been in Oslo also a few in the cities of Bergen and Trondheim
          Vets said nothing to indicate at this stage illness can be transmitted to humans

          https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7450399/Mysterious-illness-kills-dozens-dogs-Norway-healthy-pets-dropping-dead-days.html

          1. Yes, it’s very concerning.
            All dog shows, doggy meetings cancelled. So far, the symptoms seem like dysentry, and there’s talk of antibiotic resistant bacteria, but nothing proven yet.
            The widespread outbreak makes one wonder about the cause – unless it’s due to an/some infected dogs being moved around the country (in cars, for example, on vacation). Dogfood apparently ruled out as a cause.
            :-((

          3. Dogs don’t stick to the food put in front of them. If on the loose they could be eating whatever they come across. I would suggest keeping dogs on leashes for the time being until the cause of this problem identified and perhaps a vaccine provided.

          4. Hi, Clydesider.

            Your friendly anti-Americanese colleague here.

            “I would suggest keeping dogs on leashes leads for the time being…” :•)

          5. My next door neighbours’ dog, Lola, seems to have caught this mystery illness with exactly the same symptoms. Numerous visits to the vet were unable to ascertain exactly what was the matter and the diarrhoea. vomit and fatigue lasted for three or more weeks. It seemed that Lola would not be able to pull through. But fortunately she has done so at last and, though still very weak and weighing a couple of pounds less than normal, is making a slow but sure recovery. It must be terrible for all dog owners whose pets are so afflicted.

          8. My dog had something similar a few weeks ago. I thought it was the end of him, to be honest, but he pulled through with the help of antibiotics and a determined character.

      2. Welby was not involved at the time, whereas the Bush family were very chummy with the bin Laden family – the very same Wahhabi fanatics who also demolished the Grand Mosque in Mecca, replacing the whole of ancient Mecca with an exciting shopping and high end hotel complex for the megarich. Devout Muslims, especially Shias from Iran, were trampled underfoot, and even the site of Fatimah’s mother’s house was used as a public toilet for moneyed shoppers.

        9/11 was the natural consequence of the merger of Big Money and Fanatic Religion.

        The same vandalism is being repeated today by the close relationship between the Trump family and the Bolsonaro family with Netanyahu acting as “honest” broker. Today’s Big Money religious fanatics hate environmentalists as much as their forebears hate the Socialist Infidel.

        Again, all Welby can do is apologise.

    4. Silly old bu**er. Does he think that, other than in India, the masses fall for this kind of childish acting any more?

  13. Morning all. A date to remember. 11 September 1683, Jan Sobieski and the Winged Hussars defeated the Turks at The Gates of Vienna.

      2. It marked the beginning of the recovery of the Christian lands in the Balkans from Turkish domination.

        1. The International Date format has been agreed as 20010911 – I believe Sweden uses that format.

          ‘Morning, George. I also hate a lot of things about the American language but, since it’s theirs we must let them get on with saying peculiar things in peculiar ways; what I do abhor, is those in the UK who should know better, adopting many Americanisms and mispronunciations.

          1. Morning, Tom.

            I agree. What I do have a problem with, though, is Americans calling their language “English”, It is not!

            By all means permit them to continue using their appalling abomination of proper English but let us also insist that they call it “Yankese”.

          2. The reason for the English language being so dominant is its flexibility.
            That flexibility has made it the language of business and prosperity.
            I’m quite happy about that.

          3. Flexibility is one thing, Nursey.

            My gripe is against the wonderfully descriptive and lyrical prose of Shakespeare, Browning, Austen, Dickens and Kipling (among others) being rapidly supplanted by something more akin to grunts.

            English should evolve, but instead it is deteriorating quickly.

          4. Shakespeare was a great one for neologisms.
            I have no doubt that the admirers of the Earl of Surry’s verses thought Billy the Bard a frightful oik.

      3. It was an American tragedy, so use their dating system.
        I doubt the Jews place the event in the year 5761.

        1. 9/11, a date that will be forever etched on the mind of every American. Almost 3,000 people were killed.

      1. Everyone seems to be wondering why Muslim terrorists are so quick to commit suicide.

        Let’s see now… No Jesus, No Christmas, No television, No cheerleaders, No Nude Women, No car races, No football, No soccer, No pork BBQ, No hot dogs, No burgers, No chocolate chip cookies, No lobster, No nachos, No Beer nuts, No alcohol, No Beer!

        Rags for clothes and towels for hats.

        Constant wailing from the guy next-door because he’s sick and there are no doctors.

        Constant wailing from the guy in the tower. On your knees facing east most of the day.

        More than one wife. You can’t shave. Your wives can’t shave.

        You can’t shower to wash off the smell of donkey cooked over burning camel dung.

        Your bride is picked by someone else. She smells just like your donkey.

        Then they tell you that when you die it all gets better!

        I mean, really, is there a mystery here?

      2. It’s not an invading army though, is it? How do we defeat an enemy that lives amongst us?

        2. I would disagree.
          It is an invading army. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f6f761cdb8bafb024bf270e739f2462215f3bbc2336bfd8872c7e8cb0e08150a.jpg

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6fa315e2166ffbed189f44adad3e0d7c418899ae5a833e5dbb202869603d9b82.jpg
          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/26f9eca7bb117d9b079f62bb781201f28a4dbd082069b2cd707c2e0df1b1b199.jpg
          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b0d6c7f1a4c845a6fad8009c5e70f74420d7c46b4f54881d0d9e8d3101636757.png

          1. Don’t be obtuse, Bob. There’s a big difference between set-piece battlefield warfare and the conflict that might soon take place all over Europe.

  14. Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party ‘want free run at 90 seats in proposed General Election pact with Tories’ 2 Hours ago.

    Nigel Farage has reportedly said he would strike an election pact with the Tories if his Brexit Party was given a free run in up to 90 parliamentary seats.

    The former Ukip leader is understood to have told Number 10 he would then, in return, not field any candidates against sitting Conservative MPs or target seats for the Tory party.

    The ideal solution would of course be a Brexit Party majority with Nigel as Prime Minister!

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/nigel-farages-brexit-party-wants-free-run-at-90-seats-in-proposed-election-pact-with-tories-a4233681.html

    1. Morning AS,
      Personally, and going on the “niges” take on the UKIP membership after he used them and the party platform to
      build his image I somewhat beg to differ on the PM
      ideal solution part.
      Integrity must surely be inclusive of a PMs character.

      1. As much as I deplore the way UKIP was stabbed in the back by Farage, I feel we UKIP members & supporters have to put personal feelings aside and recognise that, in order to get out of the EU without May’s chains, we need to give our electoral support to his party.

        1. Morning B,
          I post nothing derogatory concerning the Brexit group, far from it, as seen in my post history.
          The thought of “nige” as PM would pose for me the question, do we really want change ?
          I do totally agree with our ( UKIPs) full support for the Brexit group.

          2. Evening EE,
            I do agree OUT is premium, but the faith many people put in some savior types is unbelievable.
            The johnson untrustworthy, the farage
            no integrity, both should be used,then abused, they would understand that.

          3. used,then abused
            How?
            You cannot make Tories in 90 seats vote for another cadiddate by denying them a candidate.
            An abuse alright.
            An abuse of power and an insult to democracy..

          4. used,then abused
            How?
            You cannot make Tories in 90 seats vote for another cadiddate by denying them a candidate.
            An abuse alright.
            An abuse of power and an insult to democracy..

        2. Sorry, Bob. I’m not prepared to forgive Nigel his comments, nor do I like the way he has systematically gone about the business of sidelining UKIP. When Brexit is finally delivered (as it surely will be, even if it takes the EU to implode), the one-trick pony will be shown up for what it is; the Nigel Farage show. By then, however, it may be too late to resurrect UKIP, which will be needed more than ever.

  15. Grey day. Dropped the Canucks off with family in Somerset yesterday. We go back on Saturday for a family party at the Bath Arms in Cheddar.

      1. Like “that disgusting old racist is offensive about the country that has given her everything. In return she gives nothing but racist abuse to the indigenous. Perhaps she should go somewhere else – like another continent.”?

  17. Assad Regime Named Number One Threat to Syria’s Christians After 120+ Churches Intentionally Attacked. 09-10-2019.

    JERUSALEM, Israel – As the death toll continues to climb in Syria’s bloody civil war, a lesser-known casualty recently came to light in a new report by the Syrian Network for Human Rights (SNHR) – churches and Christian places of worship.

    The watchdog group reports that President Bashar Al-Assad’s Regime and other major factions in the Syrian Civil War have intentionally damaged or destroyed at least 124 churches since the war began in 2011.

    This is just another piece of manufactured disinformation. Syria is one of the very few places in the Middle East that Christians, among other minorities, are safe and the reason for their support of Assad’s Government!

    https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2019/september/assad-regime-named-as-number-one-threat-to-syria-rsquo-s-christians-after-more-than-120-churches-intentionally-attacked

    1. ‘Morning Minty
      What utter Bolleux
      “Other Factions” Jihadis 124
      Assad 0
      I wonder if BoJo still funds the Leicester Liar

  18. Good morning all’

    Mild & windy, rain on the way.

    Not a day for lighting 72 candles…

    …or is it?

    1. Is that an oblique hint at you becoming even old and more decrepit?
      Don’t worry, I’m only five years behind you!

      Have a good’un.

      1. Thanks, Belle. Wo’ a bleedin’ coincidence! I’m having mussels & sole for lunch at Côte & salmon tonight.

    4. Happy Birthday, Peddy, thankfully May (the month) was a better time for lighting 75 of them. I wish they could have been lit under May’s treatcherous WA.

    10. When you get to L, your birthdays you disguise
      With Vs and Xs to confuse – and not forgetting Is.

      So:

      With Roman numbers at the ready,
      Have a Happy Birthday, peddy.

      LXXII

      1. Because of problems with the van and me being busy on other projects, the nearly 20y collection of crushed aluminium cans still needs to be taken to the scrappies
        Also the full sized drawing board I salvaged from a house in Derby that was due for demolition & that used to be in the bedroom needs to be put onto E-bay and got rid of.
        Also, if anyone has a need for a bloody great Lampertz safe that weighs 390kg, (don’t bloody ask) I’ve got one going cheap. Provide your own transport please!

        1. Crumbs. Makes the pile of pre-holiday clear-out tut that MB is taking to the tip positively negligible.

    2. ‘Morning Bob, thank you for posting the link to that article. It is very frank and honest, painting a true picture of the tragedy that is Africa. Not the type of article the PTB and the charitee execs want to see, let alone pay attention to.

      1. That came out recently in a ConHome poll; or rather, a Lord Ashworth poll.
        Many participants expressed the belief that there was no longer any point in voting.

        1. Those who want to end democracy in our countries once and for all, and make voting really meaningless, have been trying to wear us down for a long time. They have also been pushing their fantasy version of reality to breed generations with no ability to think for themselves who need their “safe spaces” in case someone says “boo!” to them. They cannot think or fight for themselves.

          If people really do stop voting then the globalists will have won. After their next electoral victory then they won’t take any more chances and will put in as many safeguards as possible to make sure that there is no chance of them ever being removed from office again. They are not far from that now with the joys of postal voting fraud.

          As the people are discovering across Europe, with the change in their voting patterns, the only chance we have now is to vote for people who 100% want to get out of the European Union. No more votes for Remainers.

    2. “So let’s have a snap general election after all.
      It would be in most senses another referendum.
      There would really only be two parties on the card: EU-subordination or separate sovereignty.”
      I think that there would be an enormously complex spread of voting with Remain and Leave alliances. Only a sincere Conservative/Brexit Party alliance could succeed.

  21. I fear that the headline may be substantially correct….

    Johnson can’t escape the clutches of May’s zombie Brexit deal
    Rafael Behr

    He may play the right wing populist, but don’t be surprised if the prime minister ditches his determination to leave without a deal
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/10/boris-johnson-brexit-theresa-may-withdrawal-agreement

    But the Guardianista’s grasp of reality is…. well….less than awesome

    BTL:

    “MaxZ0rin Pinnington 12h ago

    May’s deal is a hard Brexit, the fact Labour MPs and Tory ‘moderates’ are prepared to vote for it is an utter fucking disgrace.

    Shameful.”

    and many others

    1. It’s a very hard Remain – no influence, no votes, being under their aggressive and acquisitive control, perhaps forever, and paying them handsomely for the privilege.
      Has Johnson come over all Messianic and believes now he can sell May’s WA to the electorate after all the adverse publicity it has attracted. A very dangerous path to tread when a PM believes his own publicity.

        1. I came to the conclusion that was to ensure that none of the other 6 options put forward by the opposition got more votes. In other words May’s WA was most “popular” even though it had been rejected a couple of times before, so the Government wasn’t forced to pursue any alternative – stalemate. Let’s hope that situation prevails and that the PM doesn’t try to put lipstick on the pig of the WA and bring it back to the Commons…

  22. Sir – I cannot believe that MPs now want to publish the no-deal preparation plans. I assume they would have requested publication of D-day plans so that Hitler could have read them…

    Anthony Aldridge
    Poynton, Cheshire

    And there, in a nutshell, Tony, you have encapsulated what I’ve been saying all along. During the second world war, the general standard of human being was much, much higher than it is now. They believed in, and fought to the death for, their freedom and sovereignty.

    Had World War II taken place with today’s generation at the helm, the country would have capitulated in early 1940.

    When you breed peer group after peer group, decade after decade, of deplorable, sub-standard humans this is the result. At the current rate of deterioration of the species, I fear for the generations to come.

  24. I wonder how Boris Johnson’s statement that the government will ”obey the law” fits in with Guy Verhofstadt’s alleged statement that votes for the WA were being ”bought” ?

    1. P-P the BBC were receiving financial support from the EU throughout the referendum debate and beyond to promote Remain. That is how the EU works. The Remain europhiles will get all that they ask for from the EU but if we do remain it will be for keeps and all the EU promises will disappear over time

      1. I think this is the first time any direct evidence has come to light.

        Shouldn’t there be an enquiry ?

  26. Here is Freddie Forsyth’s column in today’s Daily Express in an easy-read format:

    Now it’s time for Britain to stand up to the bullies from Brussels, says FREDERICK FORSYTH

    As our ill-run country shuffles into the month of September, year of grace 2019, utter chaos prevails among the ranks of those supposed to be governing us. For us mere observers it is like watching not one but a series of slow car crashes about which we can do nothing. But certain clarities do stand out.

    One is the defection from the ranks of loyal Tory MPs of 21 renegades. What caused them to betray their party, its leader and their constituents? The only answer appears to be their insistence that “No Deal must be taken off the table”. First things first. No Deal is not a presence, it is an absence. You cannot remove an absence because it is not there to remove. so it’s a code. so let me play the role of Bletchley Park and de-code it.

    What it really means is that if Brussels has a demand of us we must concede it. I have not heard a single media interviewer ask a leading Remainer this obvious question: is there any British concession, no matter how humiliating, that you would not concede? I suspect that simple query would leave the renegades dumbfounded because it is unanswerable.Yet it means what it asks.

    Peel away the layers of hypocrisy and No Deal Off The Table simply means that whatever Brussels demands, we have to grovel. Basically, we have to accept the May scuttle word for word; that is the 585-page list of on-your-knees concessions that Theresa May and her passionately pro-Brussels adviser Ollie Robbins brought back from that city and which the Commons vetoed three consecutive times. That is now the demand of the Welsh Nats, scots Nats, Lib- Dems and Labour – the combined Opposition to the Tories – plus the new 21 renegades who voted on Tuesday to bring Boris down.

    Let’s have a quick glance at recent history. Three years ago we had a referendum, brought into being by an Act of Parliament, passed in the Commons by a huge majority, endorsed by the Lords, assented by the Queen. The question was simple – In or Out. No conditions, terms to be worked out.

    Every party endorsed it – including the passionate Remainers because they thought they’d win it. Ditto the entire Establishment.

    Then they lost it – by a clear majority. It was not rigged – the Electoral Commission saw to that. The ass who brought it, David Cameron, chose to resign. The senior Tories completely screwed up the succession, choosing the worst fool on offer – Theresa May. A massive Commons Majority endorsed the invocation of Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty – the departure clause.

    Mrs May completely screwed up a snap election, then concluded the worst terms ever agreed by this country in its very long history. Parliament refused them. The May scuttle inflicts on us the terms usually imposed on a nation defeated in war – Germany in 1918, Germany in 1945. subservience forever. These humiliating terms are what May’s successor wants to re-negotiate. Brussels replies; Get stuffed. so who is imposing No Deal?

    Now the parliamentary Opposition, backed by the renegades, says we must accept and grovel. But we are not a defeated nation. We are the world’s fifth biggest economy. Our unemployment percentage is the lowest in the EU.

    Out there beyond the shoreline Canada, Australia, New Zealand, USA, Japan, India and Brazil are gagging to clinch wealth-creating trade deals with us. So let’s have a snap general election after all. It would be in most senses another referendum.

    There would really only be two parties on the card: EU-subordination or separate sovereignty. Do the hearts of our people still beat for Britain? Will we chuck out the capitulationist dross and rise again? I hope so and I believe so.

    1. Maggie posted this a little earlier and my reply was,
      “So let’s have a snap general election after all.
      It would be in most senses another referendum.
      There would really only be two parties on the card: EU-subordination or separate sovereignty.”
      I think that there would be an enormously complex spread of voting with Remain and Leave alliances. Only a sincere Conservative/Brexit Party alliance could succeed.”

    2. My favourite line in the above is: “The senior Tories completely screwed up the succession, choosing the worst fool on offer – Theresa May.”

      I wish I’d said that. It also gives grist to the mill of my other post; the one about the progressive declining standard of humanity and the increasingly deplorable politicians it chooses.

    4. My comment:-

      Good article, Sir, but one quibble.

      “It was not rigged – the Electoral Commission saw to that.”

      Is this the same Electoral Commission that gave Tower Hamlets a clean bill of health and had to be dragged kicking and screaming to do something by a group of local activists who spent a lot of their own time and money doing the job the EC ought to have been doing in the first place?

  27. I commented on the “Gender Neutral Penguins” yesterday,the story has led to a hilarious rant in the US Speccie

    Enjoy

    It’s the news every LGBTQ individual has been waiting for. The penguin

    community has finally openly embraced non-binary and genderqueer

    identities by allowing keepers at The Sea Life Centre in London

    to bring up a penguin baby as gender-neutral (presumably until they are

    old enough to decide themselves whether to go ahead with hormone

    treatment).

    https://spectator.us/rejoice-birth-gender-neutral-penguin-gay/

    1. Like the old joke:

      Matt goes to a nudist camp. Sees another man with his willie standing up – “I didn’t think I’d see a dick standing – I thought everyone was just cool about being naked” he says.

      “We don’t call them dicks – we call them biscuits” says the person showing him around. “”You know, saves embarrassment.”

      They walk on and one of the guests’ dogs squats and defecates on the lawn. “Surely that’s not hygenic for poo to be lying around?”

      “No, we ask owners to clear up any poo – we call it chocolate. Saves embarrassment”.

      They go round the rest of the camp, seeing people frolicking happily with no clothes on and no worries, in the swimming pool, sunbathing on the lawns. “i like it here” says Matt, do you have any cinema, disco, or like clubs catering for various interests like reading etc.?”

      ” Oh yes” says the guide,”I show you one now. They go to a large hut which is furnished very nicely, chaise longues etc. “Is this for massages” asks Matt? “Well” says the guide: ♫ “If you like a lot of chocolate on your biscuit join our Club” ♫

    1. It has moved beyond the point where normal policing would stop this happening in some areas. The police are just another obstacle to be ignored or removed if they get in the way of the new arrivals who don’t recognise our way of life and our rule of law.

      It won’t be long now until a more robust approach will be the only way to restore order. We might not want this to happen, but we are being forced into it.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f5dfbe3f4d9951893fdf4ed993436517e2d6f780302f154a3a34aa4683503ddd.jpg

    1. Thanks, Rik, nicked and posted to Ar$ebook. You never know, if just one little snowflake had a change of heart…

  30. Circumstantial Evidence

    A farmer was called to serve on jury duty. During the questioning of prospective jurors, the prosecuting lawyer asked the farmer if he could convict someone
    on circumstantial evidence. The farmer responded, “No way in hell could I do that!!”

    The lawyer asked why he was so adamant in his answer. He replied that he once had a very bad experience with circumstantial evidence. The lawyer asked him to explain.

    “Well sir,” the farmer began, “I was out in the barn milking ole’ Bessie one hot day and as I was milking her, she kicked over the milk pail with her right
    front foot. The milk soaked my overalls and underwear, so I took them off, rinsed them out in the water trough and hung them out to dry.

    Then, I got a piece of rope and tied her right foot to the floor. I sat back down and starting milking again and the silly cow kicked over the pail with her left front foot. So I tied that one down to the floor as well. She then proceeded to kick over the pail with her back feet so I tied both of them to the floor. Well,
    I thought I had things under control until she whipped her tail around and slapped me right in the face. Very annoyed at her antics, I moved my stool behind her, stood up on it, and as I was in the process of tying her tail to one of the rafters, wearing nothing but my T-shirt and boots my wife walked into the barn!”

    “No Sir!! I do not believe in circumstantial evidence!”

  31. Morning, Campers.
    Here is V. P!ssed Off Essex Girl using a mouse rather than a track-pad.
    Laptop is suffering from a rare condition that has even the most venerable Apple Nerds scratching their heads.
    While MB and I are up in Buxton and thereabouts, laptop will be in hospital, undergoing forensic tests and possibly major surgery.
    Meanwhile, Spartacus will be having the time of his life being spoilt rotten by our house sitter and her boyfriend. Plus his chum, Harry the black poodle will be staying as well.

    1. ‘Morning, Anne.

      I took my car in for its annual service & MOT on Monday. Alles klar. But when I looked at the bill I saw an item “visual health check”. I pondered this for a minute or two, then turned to the assistant & said, “Is that for the car or me?”

      Btw, I always use a mouse with my laptop.

      1. The mouse is a (very) marginal improvement.
        There is something puzzling going on, hence the long stay in pooter hospital.

        1. Morning, Anne,

          I had a laptop that went wrong – I plugged in a separate keyboard and it was fine… Sometimes there are just bits that go…

    3. As with peddytheviking, I also always use a mouse with my laptops. I don’t know which one you are using, but there are many “wireless mice” available so that you do not need to have it attached to the computer. It does need a battery in the mouse, and a free port to plug the tiny receiver into, but that is a small price to pay for not having a wire.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/accb52d5cb11202987abc1d4da2602965300208267c97c168163c82b5fe99a37.jpg

      1. I’ve not used a 20th century ‘rat’ for a decade. It is obsolescent technology.

        I much prefer my 6½” x 4½” (160mm x 114mm) Apple Magic Trackpad 2, which is wireless, rechargeable and performs many more intuitive functions than a rat is capable of.

        And it doesn’t give me hand cramps.

        2. A trackpad is handy, but after a while causes other problems.

          Each to their own.

          I’m still waiting for a mouse to be big enough to fit adult hands rather than those of a tenager.

          1. I bought an hp mouse at the same time as I bought the laptop from Curry’s about 7 years ago. I have large hands & the mouse fits perfectly.

        3. “Obsolescent technology” – It is always a joy to find someone who uses phrases that are wildly inaccurate on a subject. 🙂

          (Seriously – no offence is meant. 🙂

          I was in the right place at the right time and went online 30 years ago, and have been using computers socially and as a profession for almost all of that time. I love traditional mice, and there are benefits for long-term users such as myself. Using your fingers to type on a keyboard for 30 years, with the many hours each day of rapid finger movements in many directions can have consequences.

          They have not hit me yet, but there are reasons why I do not now learn to play the piano for example, with its extra usage of finger and wrist movements. I will be using a mouse because it requires minimal sideways movement of the wrist and just a finger click to choose items. The idea of all this extra finger movement with “swishing” leaves me cold. 🙂

          1. I take your points on board, Merry Mac.

            Obsolescent, though, does not mean the same as obsolete. The former means it is going out of style, soon to be replaced. The latter means that it is already out of style.

            It’s horses for courses, but I find ‘finger swishing’ a calm and intuitive exercise that doesn’t cramp my hands like grabbing hold of a rat does. :•)

      2. I will leave my Happy Apple Chappy to deal with it.
        Like cars, plumbing, electricity etc…. I use stuff; apart from very basic repairs, I am not like Lord Finchley.

        “Lord Finchley tried to mend the Electric Light
        Himself. It struck him dead: And serve him right!
        It is the business of the wealthy man
        To give employment to the artisan.”

  32. A reminder the Al-Beeb has been evil and toxic for a very long time

    “THE BBC apologised yesterday for any offence

    caused by a special edition of Question Time on the terrorist assault on

    America that left the former United States ambassador to Britain in

    tears.

    Hundreds of viewers telephoned

    to complain that anti-American views expressed by the audience did not

    represent British public opinion. They also accused the BBC of

    displaying insensitivity by airing the programme so soon after the

    disaster.

    At one point, Philip Lader,

    the former American ambassador, who was on the panel, was slow

    handclapped by a section of the audience.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1340578/BBC-says-sorry-to-tearful-US-envoy.html

    1. I’m still waiting for a true apology from the BBC to the majority of British people for the blatant spin over the past 23 years….

      1. The DG and a cohort of News editors from the period in question prostrating themselves (a la Welby) in front of Nelson’s column might do it….

    2. ‘Morning Rik, this was almost inevitable, the judiciary have been becoming more political year by year. They have now seen how the Squeaker and MPs have abused the constitution without penalty so are having a go themselves.

      1. ‘Morning Hoppy
        One of the biggest wrecking balls Blair swung at society was the changes in appointing judges,the shite is now rising to the top of the judiciary

        1. We can only hope that the Supreme Court have the sense to over rule this and not give a politically motivated ruling.

        2. It was the ability of lawyers with “interests” to self-nominate to certain courts that was one of the great rotten apples.
          All Blair’s reforms had one intention, to turn the UK institutions upside down and inside out and to create a left-wing common purpose bias from top to bottom.

    3. It would appear that some members of our judicial system are desperate to join 400 of our MP’s in the dock, when we have finally left the EU and we turn to those individuals who have tried so hard to stop us. We will be a free nation state again with the ability to make our own new treason laws, and to appoint judges who will serve this country and not the globalists in the EU.

      Do these politicians and judges REALLY imagine that they are going to be left to live out a wealthy retirement after all that they have done? Don’t they see the doors of the prison cell closing behind them in the future? It will not be a comfortable open prison either for these Common Purpose zombies.

      That Miller female can look out through the bars of her cell window at the British countryside that she tried to keep in slavery. She will have plenty of time to consider her life choices and whether it was all worth it.

        1. All it takes is the will to change it. I’m not waving the white flag.

          The “Establishment” are vastly outnumbered, almost by definition, and their empty lives are pathetic. Even when they think that they have “won” they are still losing. On the wider stage of what really matters, these Common Purpose boys and girls are lost in the dark. What they call life is no life at all. 🙂

    4. Scottish court? A provincial outfit used to dealing only in parking offences and drunkenness. Ignore.

      1. I have no idea as to why the Scottish court have any jurisdiction on this matter at all as Westminster is in England and MP’s are employed at Westminster. Interestingly the Supreme court has ruled it legal. I have no idea if an appeal can be made against a Supreme court decision

        They have had over 3 years to debate Brexit and the reality is that Parliament would not have been in session for most of that time any case

        Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful.
        The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime minister’s political decision to prorogue parliament.
        Lawyers acting for 75 opposition MPs and peers argued Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament for five weeks was illegal and in breach of the constitution, as it was designed to stifle parliamentary debate and action on Brexit.

      2. Keir Starmer (a person i really dislike) has already called for Parliament to be “recalled In order to debate the court’s judgement”.

        What a plank, recall Parliament for a GE to be called, otherwise it is just a zombie Parliament.

      3. Cut down the long holidays as well. They will need to if we leave the EU cleanly and the MPs have to make the decisions.

        1. Given their past performance over the last couple of decades, I really do think it in the nation’s best interest to pay them to have a holiday 365 days a year (366 days in the case of a leap year) so that they can do no harm….It would be a darn sight cheaper too!

          1. Parliament has rendered itself loathed and irrelevant.
            The sooner the whole edifice collapses, the better.
            I gather there’s a good chance of that happening.

    2. “Ruled” by a Common Purpose-infiltrated, Lefty establishment judiciary whose strings are being pulled by the Frankfurt School brigade.

    3. So on that basis we can never have a Queens Speech so how does that work. IT also means surely that the Commons should sit 365 days of the year. These NP’s mad no fuss over the Commons shutting for over 6 weeks during the summer

    1. Just f’ing unbelievable. From the ruling”

      “this was a clear failure to comply with generally accepted standards of behaviour of public authorities”

      If this is the case then Boris has a clear case to tell the courts to apply the same ruling to Bens Bill and the antics of Bercow these last few years.

    2. The government has been scrutinised mercilessly since the referendum. The people opposing Brexit want to overturn the referendum result and are running out of time. They are trying to undermine the PM’s negotiaing tacticts and worse, the will of the people.. The Queen has approved the prorogation and should not be snubbed.
      The majority of time lost is the usual stoppage for party conferences. I hope the UK supreme Court support the Prorogation when the Appeal comes before them.. The opposition sent an unauthorised group to the welcoming EU to negotiate the extension to Article 50 until 1 January 2020 – was that a legally binding decision and as for Bercow – enough said.

      1. The Supreme Court, because it is an EU off-shoot and not the traditional appeals procedure, will side with the Lefty Libtard Ant-democratic Appellants because it fears for its position if and when we leave the EU.

        ‘Morning, Clyde.

        1. The EU seems to have us by the scruff of the neck. We must get out cleanly. If we leave any power at all with the EU, it will be built on.

  37. Week#1: Men can wear dresses and go into ladies’ toilets.Week#2: Girls cannot wear skirts and must wear gender neutral trousers as worn by boys

    “O’Brien silenced him by a movement of his hand. ‘We control matter

    because we control the mind. Reality is inside the skull. You will learn

    by degrees, Winston. There is nothing that we could not do.

    Invisibility, levitation — anything. I could float off this floor like a

    soap bubble if I wish to. I do not wish to, because the Party does not

    wish it. You must get rid of those nineteenth-century ideas about the

    laws of Nature. We make the laws of Nature.‘”

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4a1b5f369b11d76479b91193296d45f1744ad9c0e9c8ad5d3c46c2e6971d5b0a.jpg

    1. Demented madness. Penguins, as it happens, are one of the few species that A: mate for life and B: share parenting responsibilities.

      Tell you what Madam: go assign gender roles to a sodding Tiger. Get in a cage with a hungry male and tell it it should be more feminine. Perhaps try putting make up on it.

      Useless, idiotic, moronic, arrogant, pointless, stupid, conceited, gormless, petulant, pathetic time wasting dolts.

    2. It is quite clear that this vacuous bìtch has been let down, both by risible parenting and by a tragically sub-standard education. The result of these omissions are clear for all to see (and hear).

      2. “No, someone’s got to be summonsed!”
        So that was decided upon.
        And off they all went to p’lice station
        In front of a Magistrate chap;
        They told what ‘ad ‘appened to Albert
        And proved it by showing ‘is cap.
        The Magistrate gave ‘is opinion
        That no one was really to blame,

  39. Nigel wants to reach an arrangement with the Conservatives to stand aside in 90 mainly Labour seats

      1. Those are the four groups that will split the “Remain” vote between them across the country. This will allow those Conservative and Labour voters who care about their country to get The Brexit Barty elected in those seats. A massively better result than returning a Remain MP again.

        Enri d’Aith – It is good that you see the path to us actually getting free of the European Union. 🙂

        1. I know that this will seem like heresy to you but it is naive to think that only hard-line Brexiteers care about the country. I know men and women who have served this country honourably for sometimes decades, have made sacrifices, and have the medals to prove it, who thought that, on balance, it was better to remain than leave.

          I’ll repeat what I have said earlier “To stand any realistic chance of winning a seat in the vast majority of constituencies, a prospective MP needs a party behind him or her to pay for and deliver leaflets, carry out canvassing, write letters to newspapers, conduct social network campaigns, make phone calls, post posters, do telling at the election and so on. There is not one iota of evidence that TBP has anything like enough resources to do this effectively and how many ordinary Conservative Party members would do that for someone of a different party? All TBP will do is appeal to hard-line Brexiteers who, for the most part, will be current or former Conservative voters. The result of this fantasy would be a Parliament with tiny proportions of Conservative and TBP MPs and a huge majority coalition of Labour, LibDems, Greens and other assorted remainers. The coalition might not hold but neither might the Conservative/TBP coalition. We would stay in the EU forever!”.

          1. The seats the Brexit party is asking for a “clean shot at” are the Northern, heavy leave majority, constituencies that traditionally elect Labour candidates.
            Thiose voters would almost certainly never vote Tory, but they might change their allegiance to a Brexit party candidate.
            If the Brexit candidates win, all well and good, if they don’t there is no way Conservatives would do better.

          2. I grant you that what you postulate is a possibility but it relies on labour voters being so exercised by Brexit that they will forget about employment, education, health, benefits and social security to vote for a one-issue party. Take a look at the Brexit Party’s web site – it is purely focussed on Brexit. The probability that Conservatives would do no better does not stop the election of parties that will stand on a remain platform (not that it’s clear what platform labour will stand on; right now it is one, or maybe two or maybe two and a half). When push comes to shove, tribal loyalties are hard to overcome.

          3. I don’t think that the Brexit Party expects to Govern, what they want is the balance of power.

            Labour is sending totally mixed messages but the most sound is coming from Remain. Rather silly really as it undermines their Nationalisation plans being inside the EU and it will also harm jobs as cheap labour contnues to pour in and free movement benefits tourism will be more in evidence if Labours plans on benefits are put in place.

            If Labour supportrs are so stupid as to vote in a Corbyn Government they will deserve all they get. Sadly, I fear they might be.

            A Corbyn Govt would set i train untold long term damage for a brief flurry of free money.

          4. In time, the Brexit Party might be a credible political force but they must first build up a party machinery at local and national level, and develop realistic policies beyond solely Brexit. I totally agree with you about the dangers of a Corbyn Government. Even more so because the greatest danger to Mr Corbyn are from his own party when he is deposed by an even harder hard-line leftist following the traditional leftish pattern.

          5. Yes I have seen you say that before, but I thought it was rude to point out how out-dated that concept was in the modern world, and the obvious flaws in your argument. It is a mind-set that is no longer relevant to the realities of where we are now. But since you have now typed that twice I will say what is wrong with it.

            The Brexit Party defeated, BADLY defeated, both the Conservative and Labour parties only 4 weeks after it was created and they had none of the long list of things that you suggest are required to win. There is only one informed decision that needs to be made at the next election:

            “Is the person you are voting for going to take us out of the European Union or keep us under their control?”

            If you vote for a Remainer MP along party lines “because nothing ever changes” then you are out of touch with reality and your vote will not help to free this country. But I believe in democracy as the least worst form of government tried so far, so you are free to vote for who you wish. I will vote to be free of the European Union.

          6. The Brexit Party did well in the elections for MEPs because people voted, essentially, on a single binary issue and I doubt that more than a tiny proportion of those who voted for TBP would even know what was in its manifesto, if there was one. In those elections, the overwhelming winner would have been the UK Chapter of the International League of Apathy had it stood for election. There is a world of difference between this and the election of MPs who are voted on according to voters’ views on a wide range of issues and their assessment of the character of candidates and party leaders. We shall see if my views is outdated or not!

  40. By all accounts this morning Boris was having us on all along, as most of us expected, the last few weeks have just been another piece of Parliamentary theatre to confuse and fool the public. A stitch us WA deal is on it’s way.

    2. I sincerely hope you are wrong, Bob3, but only time will tell – and there is now not much time left to find out.

      PS – I don’t agree about your “most of us”.

  41. Some more on that Scottish bølløcks ruling from BTL in the DT – the Remain/EU trolls are out in force.

    “”The judges failed to issue an interdict, or injunction, ordering the UK government to reconvene parliament, prompting a row over whether the decision meant MPs could go back to the House of Commons.

    The court issued an official summary of its decision declaring the prorogation order was “null and void”, but Carloway said they were deferring a final decision on an interdict to the UK supreme court, which will hold a three-day hearing next week.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/11/scottish-judges-rule-boris-johnsons-prorogation-unlawful

    So in other words it’s meaningless because the Supreme Court will decide, but they wanted their day in the headlines.”

  42. ‘No woman has ever refused to join the fire service because of Fireman Sam’: Piers Morgan clashes with brigade chief who dropped children’s favourite as mascot in bid to get more female firefighters
    Lincolnshire Fire and Rescue Service has axed the fictional character from Wales
    This morning chief told GMB he wanted to get his force to 50/50 men / women
    Piers Morgan suggested he should fire himself because he is a white male
    Said he may discourage women or ethnic minorities from joining the fire service
    It will now use its other mascots, Freddy and Filbert, who are fire extinguishers
    The decision has faced criticism however with some labelling it ‘PC gone too far’

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7451121/Youre-white-man-dont-fire-Piers-Morgan-clashes-fire-chief.html

    2. Why do we need a 50/50 split? Surely we need the fittest, strongest, most suitable for the job, regardless of what’s between their legs.

  43. Can we have a referendum as to whether we hold a General Election before we have the second EU referendum?
    i’m not sure what each Party is standing for.
    Also I need to cast the runes and ask the Cabbage Patch doll what I should do as I have today identified myself as a Penguin and feel threatened.

    1. Oh come on. You need to have a referendum first to determine whether there should be a referendum to have a general election.

      Remember that the remainiac far-left illiberal undemocrats are in charge…..

    2. A Swiss chum asked me why it has taken them three years to implement our instruction. He asked why those MPs holding up our will havne’t been sacked.

      I told him because we live in a fascist dictatorship, not a democracy.

      Fluck off, Watson. We’ve given you a command. The next time we do it’ll be to scrub my shoes. You’ll do that as well.

    3. “The only proper way to proceed is to consult the people again.”

      But not in any way that will actually let us Leave the European Union. A referendum result can be ignored, as they are trying to do now. A General Election will result in many Remain MP’s being kicked into the long grass, and we will Leave the EU soon afterwards. Ripping up any “Withdrawal Agreement” that this current shower of MP’s try to chain us with.

  45. As the Supreme Court has already ruled the prorogation was lawful/not their business and they, the Supreme Court in London takes precedence where a decision in favour of the government has already been made. Appeal from Scottish court will be heard again in the Supreme Court which will have no choice but to uphold their original decision.

    This is a case of remainers in Scotland attempting to show independence to make their own decision.

    Also, what law has Boris broken?

    2. “As the Supreme Court has already ruled the prorogation was lawful/not their business…”

      When did this happen?

        1. Isn’t it the case that the proceedings of the House are no business of the courts, only the results of them?

    3. Surely the reason for Boris’s decision is irrelevent ? Either his action was legal, or it was legal. The childish explanation that it was illegal because some people didn’t like it, is not valid.

  46. “You can’t have the penny and the bun”

    Judges are appointed for life,if they want to meddle in politics they should be forced to stand for election as in the USA

    Now as to the quality of the current dross…………………

    Disability TRUMPS Ability. Now all Amir Ali Majid’s 20 years of cases and immigration cases need to be reviewed …

    Blind immigration judge ‘had no idea of the law or his own powers’ says

    panel after 12 out of 13 appeals against his rulings succeed

    “Immigration

    Law Practitioners’ Association chairman Adrien Berry said: ‘It is hard

    to see how he first passed the judicial exams and then why it has taken

    so long for his lack of knowledge to be exposed.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4939586/Britain-s-second-blind-judge-no-idea-law.html#ixzz4uLDYRfTQ
    Wouldn’t be a bad idea for Chief Constables either,see how many votes rainbow police cars get you…………….

    1. What a farce, since the reign of Bliar it appears all the institutions have become totally inept, corrupt and politically of the left. Thinking about it, anything the Left tries to run/control always ends up in a mess.

      Traditionally a Conservative Government would be elected and spend the next four or five years correcting and repairing everything the left had done. The problem the UK has is that every ‘Conservative’ Government since Major has been totally wet and continually moving to the Left.

      A radical shake up and clear out is desperately needed.

    2. But that’s why they want to win. They don’t want the annoying ‘people’ telling them that such behaviour is disgusting and a waste of money and not be able to ignore it or arrest us on a threat. They don’t want to face sacking and revocation of pension when they disobey. They want to keep doing what they’ve always done.

  47. From the DT: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/09/11/scottish-court-prorogation-ruling-shows-anti-brexit-establishment/

    “The Scottish court prorogation ruling shows the anti-Brexit Establishment is hard at work
    JOHN LONGWORTH

    Many years ago, the then chief of a very major US business shared his thoughts with me in respect of the British Establishment. He said that a major problem with the UK is that it is still controlled by holders of assets, in particular land, at inflated prices and that the economy was run accordingly. As a consequence, the incentives to be enterprising and to work hard were diminished. He was particularly struck by how successful the British Establishment had been at keeping a grip on their privilege.

    A week after I resigned as head of the British Chambers of Commerce, in order to fight for the Leave campaign back in March 2016, I wrote for the Evening Standard a piece comparing the referendum to medieval England’s Peasants’ Revolt, I ended by saying :

    But if this is a latter-day ‘peasants’ revolt’, take a lesson from the original. As Wat Tyler, the leader of the peasants, found to his cost, you cannot rely on our leaders, corporate and political, being gentlefolk of the fair-play kind. The establishment are ruthless in defence of their own interests.”

    These two snapshots could not be a more apt insight into aspects of the way our Lords and masters impact upon our lives. It was ever thus, but there is no doubt that, like lifting a stone and observing the life underneath, Brexit has taken the lid off.

    Another facet of the operation of the establishment is the extent to which the rich and successful will jump through hoops to be recognised in the honours system, which is something to behold. The cloying, sycophancy of the civil service in pursuit of grace and favour, as we have witnessed with latest honours list, is a timely reminder of the power of patronage. I witnessed it up close and personal in my time in trade association land.

    The most recent ruling of the Scottish courts and the phalanx of the judiciary generally, can easily be popped into the same category of “the establishment at work”, albeit the judges are probably the least bad offenders. Nonetheless, an intervention in relation to the executive authority of a PM is a most egregious interference in politics and our constitutional arrangements, such as to render, if taken too far, the country as ungovernable. But that is what many in the establishment want, they want instead to be governed by a technocratic foreign power.

    What is not clear yet is the extent to which the latest administration in No 10 and the Cabinet is “tarred with the same brush”. The position of the PM is as yet unclear, is he a true believer in Brexit or will he bend to the will of the establishment? Metropolitan left-leaning, Remainer and London-centric as it now is. It is certainly clear that those in the Conservative Party, who are confirmed Brexiteers, are largely on the “outside” as they are in the dark as to where all this is going.

    Whatever the motivations of Mr Cummings, there is no doubt he will not want to be seen as a loser, which is some comfort, and even rewriting future history after the event, possibly in cooperation with Mr Gove, will not save him from this ignominy, unless the government delivers a credible Brexit.

    If the government were now to pursue a rehashed and repackaged Withdrawal Treaty and Political Declaration, I suspect strongly that enough people would recognise it for what it is – “a pig with lipstick” – you might say. Enough so as to seal the fate of the Conservative Party at the next election. There are even Remain MPs who are beginning to recognise this, look at how many have bailed out of standing already!

    I fear, however, that in the Westminster, hermetically sealed never-never land, there are still many Conservative MPs who don’t get it. Even some ministers appear to believe that the electorate is so fed up with Brexit, as indeed they are, that they will accept any kind of exit or end to the whole thing. This they believe is especially so if they are fed with policy sweeties and the next election is sufficiently far ahead that all will be forgotten and forgiven.

    This appears to be the thinking in the Labour Party also, to the extent there is any thinking, with now a proposed choice between a really, really bad deal and remaining. While the illiberal, anti-democrats have decided to take away from the electorate any say, with a revocation by diktat, a policy which would do justice to a Stalinist government. Don’t imagine these two groups are not also part of the Establishment. Most decidedly for the few and not the many. Witness the desire to project trade unionists into the corridors of power and to maintain the protectionist Customs Union at the expense of, particularly, those on low incomes. Hilary Benn’s father is no doubt spinning in his grave.

    Some are pressing still for a second referendum, the same EU establishment stitch-up ploy that has been used so many times before, in so many other member states to keep the gravy train on track, leveraging the exhaustion and disillusion of the electorate, asking repeatedly until the “right” answer is secured.

    Whatever proves to be the correct prediction of sentiment amongst the electorate, I would be surprised if there were not enough voters to severely punish the major parties at least for having the audacity to ignore the democratic will of the people. It only takes ten to fifteen per cent of the electorate and a credible alternative Party such as the Brexit Party, to upset the apple cart in large numbers of constituencies.

    There is also an underlying disaffection, which I detect even amongst those in the professions and business community who voted Remain, with many voluntarily saying that having witnessed the behaviour of the EU and of the UK Parliament, they would now vote to leave. Many businesspeople say to me that the uncertainty of continued delay is much more of a problem than a clean-break Brexit would ever be. All of this will manifest itself at the next election.

    Behind the determination to crush the will of the people we see fossils like Major, Heseltine, Clarke and particularly, Blair writ large- all “pillars of the establishment”. Before the referendum campaign, I had always held the view that you can’t beat the establishment and it was, therefore, better to work within the grain.

    For me, Brexit was an opportunity to have a go at changing things for the better and of course, to also regain our liberty and prosperity as a free and independent nation. The next few weeks will determine the future of our country and see this delivered, or it will see our country condemned to disappear as a province of an EU state. But these weeks will also determine whether, dear reader, we peasants free ourselves from the yoke. “

    1. Sadly the establishment has seen what the referendum means – their losing control – and it is fighting back. Can you imagine a government where they cannot pass a high tax expansion, appoint a quango member or goodness! claim unwarranted expenses without scrutiny and hte danger of sacking? Nor can Hesseltine, Clarke and Major or Blair, Brown.. ad infinitum.

      They’re scared, but they’re also desperately, fanatically cunning. They know that the longer they fight, the less work they have to do. The more extensions can be garnered, that the people they so hate will grow tired and bored and give up because we always do. They know another few six month extensions and businesses will want to get back to normal and then their battle is won and they go back to their pathetic, venal, corrupt lifestyles free of the annoyances of democracy and patting us proles on the head, convinced in their arrogance of their own vaunted superiority.

      That is why we must win. It’s no longer political. It’s personal. They’re going to get their heads kicked in by democracy.

  49. you have to listen carefully to what politicians say, Boris said that he would rather be dead in a ditch than ask the EU for another leaving date extension, some people took this as a good thing, that he was standing up for leave and it was one in the eye for the remainers, but what he really meant that he would rather sign up to any vassalage type deal with a bit of tinkering with the Irish backstop than ask for another leaving date extension.

    1. There will be a not inconsiderable number of Tory MPs, let alone millions of the electorate, who will feel they have been betrayed by Johnson if he goes for lipstick on May’s pig. Johnson convinced these MPs to vote for him in the leadership contest when he told them as far as he is concerned May’s WA is dead. He is also on RECORD making that point. Betrayal, is it an evolved mutation in modern Tory leaders?

      1. May is on record saying 108 times that we would be leaving on March 29th. Ditto many times that no deal is better than a bad deal. If their lips are moving …

  50. SIR – I cannot believe that MPs now want to publish the no-deal preparation plans. I assume they would have requested publication of D-Day plans so that Hitler could have read them.

    Not only are MPs choosing to ignore the will of voters, even those in their own constituencies, but they are also withholding support for the Government in its talks with the EU.

    Parliament is out of touch with the people – and with reality. By preventing an election, MPs are preventing people from voting them out. So what has British democracy become?

    Drastic measures are required to restore political integrity. Parliament needs to change, though hopefully not by violent means, as in the 17th century.

    Anthony Aldridge
    Poynton, Cheshire

    Mr Aldridge; you had better believe it.. Look no further than Twominey’s article Tony Blair and Peter Mandelson ‘pulling the strings’ of Remain alliance http://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/09/10/tony-blair-peter-mandelson-pulling-strings-remain-alliance/.

    Blair and Mandelson are two of the most bent people on the planet “I think most people who have dealt with me, think I’m a pretty straight sort of guy, and I am.” [November 1997, when Labour was accused of changing its policy on tobacco advertising after accepting £1m from formula one’s Bernie Ecclestone]

    1. The problem is that the people Blair and Mandelson work for appear to control the mainstream media as well so they never get the scrutiny that should be coming to them, we really are a people under occupation by an invisible elite. The brexit vote just proves that all the more.

    2. That’s inflation for you. In my youth it used to be “Penny for the Guy”. By 1997 it had reached £1 million for the Guy……

    4. ‘Morning Z, why isn’t the Government demanding to see all of Hammond’s private correspondence concerning Brexit, preparations for no deal and the ‘facts’ behind all the scare stories?
      Also the same for Bercow – I am sure there would be plenty of evidence of his bias and collusion with the EU and ex PM’s, Mandlescum etc.

    5. I think most people who have dealt with me, think I’m a pretty straight sort of guy, and I am.

      He’s as straight as an anti-clockwise corkscrew!

  52. Back from Monaco. Stunning views along the “sentier littoral”; three Shags (including a juv) on a rock.

    Yachts outstanding. Photographs to follow when the MR gets them back from Bonusprint…{:¬))

  53. One of the great failures of those who support Brexit, or purport to, is that they have adopted the language and terminology of the Remain faction. They continue to accept and use the term “no deal” when Brexiteers should never use it. The very utterance of that phrase is supportive of Remain. A phrase such as “clean Brexit”, or “progressive Brexit” would have positive connotations. The phrase “no deal” is entirely negative. Similarly, “crash out” should be “break free”, and “cliff edge” might be “a new horizon”.
    That so-called Brexiteers have adopted the negative language of the opposition suggests that they are not sincere. Any rational Brexiteer would have commissioned a PR business to produce a lexicon of positive words and phrases to counter the negativity onslaught of the Remainers who are working tirelessly without regard to cost. They intend to block Brexit. They are on the very point of victory.

  54. “Political correctness is
    communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I
    came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not
    to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore,
    the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced
    to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even
    worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose
    once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to
    co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself.
    One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A
    society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine
    political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to. ”
    https://ahseeit.com/king-include/uploads/2019/01/50481137_315978349124103_1878372069523902140_n-3880898430.jpg

          1. JC! How the Hell could that comment have been made?

            Do these journalists get hired if they manage to push a pen across a desk with their noses?

    2. That’s good, Rik, but the last sentence, “…it has the same effect and is intended to…” seems abruptly curtailed. Is there more ?

    3. The intent of control over language is cnotorl over thought.

      The Party knew this in 1984. The Left know this today. That’s why they slur democracy as ‘populism’. Anything to twist the good into their bad.

      That’s why they’re so thoroughy, utterly evil.

  55. I think most of you are in a panic here, because you realise that, either –
    (i) Brexit is not going to happen, or
    (ii) If Brexit does happen, it will be a shadow of what was hoped for, and one way or another will
    include the restrictions in Mrs. May’s withdrawal agreement.
    The knives are truly out for Boris, and his chances of survival are slim.

      1. wibbling – Yes we are leaving. The EU has no long term future. It will fall apart either due to financial or social collapse – probably a mixture of both. When the flames climb high into the night skies of Europe, and the tear-gas fills the streets across the cities of the continent, we will still have our 19 mile-wide moat. Those little “migrant invasion boats” won’t be landing here any more either.

        That is the worst case scenario, and I want to have left long before then as it will make our lives much easier until we are asked to save Europe for the 3rd time in just over a century. It will be for us to decide how to react to that request.

        So, we can Leave the easy way now on WTO rules as soon as possible, or the hard way, which is what our globalist-loving MP’s want. But Leave we will.

    1. On a one to one, personal basis, Dianne Abbott is probably a very pleasant and likeable lady.
      Sadly, the position she is now in is entirely due to Labour being so determined to have the first Black woman MP that it shoehorned her into an ultra-safe Labour seat without adequately making sure she was up to the job.

      2. She demonstrated her hypocrisy by sending her son to a private fee-paying school while supporting Labour’s policy of Comprehensive education for the plebs.

    2. Well, it’s not just her.
      Have you heard the one about Theresa May and the calendar ?
      ” We will leave the European Union on 31st March “.

  57. Max Bonamy 11 Sep 2019 4:06AM

    Many of us hope for No-Deal because, at a stroke, it repatriates the people’s sovereignty surreptitiously leached by Parliament to the EU over many decades.
    Once again, Michael Deacon – like Jeremy Warner and Peter Foster – illustrates he doesn’t ‘get’ Brexit. He claims today No-Deal resolves nothing; that we will have to return cap-in-hand to the EU like Oliver Twist.
    Actually, No-Deal resolves a great deal of what Brexit is about. Britain, once again, would be sovereign.
    In contrast, a reheated WA / PD means we would still be in the Customs Union and subject – in perpetuity – to the supremacy of EU law and the ECJ. That is not the repatriation of sovereignty the British people instructed Parliament to retrieve.
    Moreover, Devious Deacon fails to mention that the WA and the accompany Political Declaration not only contain no trade deal – zero, nada, zilch – but instead cement the most punitive terms FOR a possible trade deal.
    Nonetheless, trade won’t cease in either case.

    With No-Deal we negotiate with Brussels on an equal footing – as a sovereign nation rather than as a captive state. The EU will have to show us the respect that has been so far absent in its de-haut-en-bas approach. How can that be a bad thing?-

    Deutsche Bank latest: “we see Germany in a technical recession” and predict a 0.25% drop in economic output this quarter.
    Boy, do their manufacturers need a deal with their second largest European market toute suite / unmettelbar.

    2. There are two stages involved and people seem to be conflating two different things

      First thing is the WA which is how we leave the EU and does not cover trade. The second thing is the trade deal. The two things need to be carried out in parallel. If we get a proper trade deal then tall the claimed issues the EU raises disappear. I think Boris is trying to secure a trade deal. WE were offered a Canada ++ type deal but May refused it

      1. I understood from M.Barnier that until the “Withdrawal” Agreement was signed off by the UK there could be no trade deals……And as parliament has refused to sign off the WA 3 times, by their own stated position the EU will not agree to any deal…..

        1. May should never have agreed to that. Even if the WA is agreed there is nothing in that agreement to give us a trade deal.

          If you have a long memory May offered the EU £39B to speed up trade talks. They took the money and still refused to talk trade thats how daft May was

      2. The WA is the way TM and the EU want us to leave the EU. We voted for a clean break as publicised pre-referendum by many of the political leaders. No Deal would settle everything and we could get on with trade negotiations with whomsoever we wished, the EU included if it wanted to.

        1. “The WA is the way TM and the EU want us to leave the EU.” More like the way that May and the EU want us to stay in the EU.

    3. I always worry about men wearing dresses.

      I’ve had this problem ever since I heard about some jumped-up little Italian dwarf trying to lead a band of Highland savages, all dressed in skirts, to March on London. He, and his legion of Jessies, only got as far as my county before a group of my fellow-county men ‘advised’ them to go back to where they came from. Or else!

      My Derbyshire kinfolk then chased this assortment of rag-tags, who had to hitch up their skirts as they ran for their lives, all the way up to Culloden, where they were given a good spanking (history doesn’t tell us whether their skirts were raised for this spanking).

      Blokes wearing women’s clothes? Nah, it disnae work!

  59. It appears that the ruling is based on: “they think Boris was thinking of different reasons for the prorogation than those given to the queen”

    These judges must be incredibly good if they can read people’s minds.

    There is nothing that says for the prorogation to be ‘lawful’ EVERYreason for calling it has to be listed out to the Queen and the opposition. The judges are Stepping Riding roughshod into constitutional and political matters that have nothing to do with them.

    1. I assume they didn’t question Major’s reasons for proroguing Parliament for three weeks back in 1997.

    2. THe Judge is playing politics. The ruling is not based on the law which is what the judge should be basing any decision on

  61. 86 more illegal immigrants picked up in the Channel yesterday. What will happen to them. I doubt they will be returned to the country they sailed from.Boris has said that all overseas students will be allowed to stay in the UK for 2 years after they graduate to look for work in the UK. Nothing about it specifically applying to the brightest and best. Boris seems to be losing the plot. The conservative party is heading for the scrap heap.

    1. Does the fake university/college scam still exist? A classic scam that allowed untold thousands in under the pretext of study with few if any checks on leaving. Being able to turn a blind eye to immigration/immigrant failures e.g. rape gangs, human trafficking and slavery, illegals entering etc appears to be an essential qualification for modern politicians and law enforcement.

      1. They will keep scamming until someone does something about stopping it. Unfortunately, “doing something about it” and “UK” don’t sit together in a sentence.

  63. Right – here are some snaps. Taken in Port Hercule, Monaco this morning.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a341b4ab1f1e36cabba9ec7ad03389eabeec52dcfc8788d72fe4ad736ea6b3ae.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9f4d80447ab5612e233d732f658eb4440afb0820983494612ee63ad0e159d3e3.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0b445cc339ff280abbda7eb41de04daea007dc18e7957d5b05ed10fa2044d318.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a786a8c2d96951c11ed11e7fdc4f73a6d32577234eecb58aa5df93766f019550.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ca991e2c3f95e5b9c04c947664f14d02266c8aa21a1b7b27473d5a8d258fec18.jpg

    The one of the mast shows a girl crew member of the ELENA 200 ft above the sea joining a bit of mast to the main-mast.
    Made me ill watching it….

    The steam vessel is the Delphine – rebuilt from a 1921 US pleasure ship.

    Warning: other photos may follow…

    1. I once had to go up the bosun’s chair to untangle a spinnaker sail. As we were tied up to a bouy in Poole harbour, all my fellow crewmates decided they would run from side to side in an effort to sway the top of the mast. It is amazing how such little movement on deck gets amplified at the top of a mast. Nice to have such bl**dy clowns as crewmates.

      1. I was stuck up high in the Alps when our cable car stopped. My two pre-teen boys gleefully started the cable car swaying wildly, frightening me. I was frozen in my seat until the cable car restarted after several minutes which seemed like a lifetime. My boys, now in their 50s, remind me of this escapade from time to time.

    3. The steam ship looks like the one that used to stand moored in the Thames and possibly still does. Amateur Photographer always used to use it for their camera tests in the 1950s.

    4. “Made me ill watching it…”

      Even from the safety of the sofa, TV programmes filmed on cliff-tops or tall buildings have the same effect on me. And yet as a 10-year-old schoolboy I stood on the Clifton suspension bridge and, without a care, threw pennies over the not very high parapet.

  64. Thousands with homes on UK coast will need to move as sea levels rise

    What a load of bunk. It has nothing at all to do with rising sea levels but is down to coastal erosion .The picture is almost certainly of the East Coast and is one of the many area where the sea defenses have been abandoned. From the picture you can it is basically sand and without sea defenses the tide undercuts the sand and it collapses into the sea. It has nothing at all to do with rising sea levels

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c1eba69005a89b7bc773eaec523d9c0766e2d4efe7975803023a491a66268ca4.jpg

    2. I believe that the North West of Britain is still rising in a post-glacial rebound whilst the South East is actually sinking like the other end of a see-saw.

  65. Second Referendum

    WE have already had a referendum and we voted to leave the EU it was not conditional. If we were to have a second referendum it should be purely on how we leave Remain should not be a choice as

      1. The mask is slipping on the “People’s Vote”. Jo Swinson (a main proponent of a second referendum) has stated that if the LibDems were to gain power, Brexit would be cancelled without a referendum.

        2. The only mask that was ever on a Second Referendum was the Blairist obfuscation to call it “People’s” as in “People’s Princess”. It was always going to be a vehicle to reverse the the first and valid referendum. You will recall the early arguments of a year or more ago were that, since Leave had won the First Referendum, it should not be on the ballot paper. The Remain camp then reversed into a stance of insisting that ‘Remain’ had to be on the ballot paper because they lost first time round and they didn’t like it.. The last three years has, in substance, been all about devising an indigestible alternative to ‘Remain’. The most recent manoeuvrings have concerned themselves with eliminating ‘WTO Leave’ from consideration.

          The current proposed form of another referendum (which the Remainer Electoral Commission would approve) is a hideous hoax.

          There shouldn’t be another vote other than “May’s Surrender and Subjugation” vs “WTO Leave”

    2. The referendum did not give the correct result. That is why it must be repeated until it does give the correct result.

  66. On any sensible basis we are better off outside of the EU

    WE do about 55% of our trade currently outside off the EU. WE have a huge imbalance of trade with the EU whilst we have a positive trade balance with the rest of the world. WE are about the third largest contributor to the EU budget and we are the EU second largest export market
    If we leave we can save most of that £39B

  67. No-deal Brexit: Documents on food and medicine shortages should be kept secret to avoid scaring public, minister says

    Why is the government perpetuating this nonsense

    There are no tariffs and why would France hold up goods at the port? It would in any case be illegal do do so without a reason . WE may need to hold a bit more buffer stock for the first few weeks but thats all

    Documents warning of food, fuel and medicine shortages after a no-deal Brexit should be kept secret because they will scare people, a government minister says.
    Andrea Leadsom, the business secretary, signalled Boris Johnson will defy parliament’s order to release the Operation Yellowhammer dossier – arguing the public was better left in the dark.
    “I actually do not think that it serves people well to see what is the absolutely worst thing that can happen,” Ms Leadsom said.

    2. If we do get a no-deal Brexit ( unlikely ) and there is a shortage of medicines, Remainers should be at the back of the queue.

  68. Border Force intercept 86 UK-bound migrants attempting to cross Channel

    Why an earth are we just not escorting them back to France?

      1. That might be a way to get rid of them they are automatically called up for military service after 6 months in the UK. Watch them disappear then

  69. Last photographs – the yachts passing below the flats where we stay.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3b64d5bf3475f6b73a1d958ee893e71821509de2c7de6329b6e3262c1275ca7a.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d64533a79ddef59b4f3eb67035f6791f27cab6b900f0e63eaeeab95b2e6f0817.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/96ecaeadef8a512eac85916b40fede8653c6218c8c66747b0ebbd8b16387a54f.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b0d20f4673d04fbeb1876e41e9c41c2d63c8519773d26b85ff00cdff9b0f8623.jpg

    The large yacht is the ELENA – where the girl was up the mast this morning.

    It is very calm – max speed is 1.9 knots! Bit like watching a slow bike race!!

      1. I suspect it is Hemsby. THe sea defenses have been abandoned and the incoming tides undercut the sand

  71. Scottish court rules Johnson’s advice to the Queen on the suspension of Parliament was unlawful
    by Peter Wilkinson and Ivana Kottasová, CNN

    https://edition.cnn.com/uk/live-news/boris-johnson-scottish-court-ruling-intl/index.html

    Paul Craig, Professor of English Law, St John’s College, Oxford, has the following observations:

    https://ukconstitutionallaw.org/2019/09/02/paul-craig-prorogation-constitutional-principle-and-law-fact-and-causation/

    1. All three First Division judges have decided that the PM’s advice to the HM the Queen is justiciable, that it was motivated by the improper purpose of stymying Parliament and that it, and what has followed from it, is unlawful.

      Translation: The court unanimously agreed that it had the power to review the Prime Minister’s decision.

      UK Sovereignty could therefore be said to be vested in Scotland’s highest court of appeal.

      1. From Guido:

        UPDATE II: The reason the case was brought in Scotland is that Scottish law differs hugely from English and Welsh law, particularly over constitutional matters. Expert lawyer David Allen Green puts “chances of the action succeeding in London as zero”…

        “something which unconstitutional can also be unlawful in Scotland, even if held to be lawful by High Court in London”

    2. So basically, Major’s prorogation was illegal as it was explicitly employed to prevent Parliament debating the expenses scandal.

      1. Bercow would have known this and instead of saying Boris’s prorogation was not normal he should have reminded the House that Major’s precedent meant that it was a justifiable executive fiat.

  72. Underpopulated Italian region offers visitors €25,000 to move in

    WE can send the dinghy brigade here

    1. I don’t understand this situation. There’s a bunch of economic migrants – not refugees by any account – sat in France, waiting to get across the channel to us.

      France has a duty to process and deport them under international law. In fact, they shouldn’t even have got to France. To wait until they invade us – as with no papers, no information, no status they are not immigrants – they have a specific legal status, not refugeees (ditto) we simply have invaders.

      We aren’t beholden to do anything except get rid of them. They’re not EU citizens. Free movement doesn’t apply.

      If they won’t go, we can force them. Our laws are not really that complicated. We’re a decent, humanitarian nation but kicking a few hundred back on to a boat will do no harm at all and send a message to the other combatants that we won’t take them.

  74. Brexit: Will Britons in the EU have to pay for NHS treatment?

    eremy Morgan QC, vice-chair of British in Europe, a group representing British citizens living and working in Europe, said: “For UK citizens living in the EU, this will erect yet another barrier cutting us off from our families and friends in the UK. Those with pre-existing health conditions will be able to get insurance… only for inflated premiums and those on low incomes will struggle to afford the ordinary premium.”

    A lot of spin there. Legally a UK national living in the EU cannot come to the UK for free NHS treatment.

      1. If you are not normally resident in the UK then you cannot return to the UK for free treatment. You would have to be resident in the UK which I think means you have to have been living in the UK for 6 months. Whether our lax NHS enforces this rule I dont know. I suspect it does not

          1. Well it would be the NHS but whether they have any means of checking I doubt. The only way they would pick it up is if you gave an overseas address as long as you gave a UK address you would almost certainly get away with it

          2. I agree. Just pop back every now and again and get your post checked/redirected. Only problem might arise if you get a phonecall from the surgery and someone gives the game away.

          3. Or get on the electoral roll via a friend’s address (obviously with the friend’s connivance). I’ve seen it in practice – person living in Spain flies over for hospital appointments and does business at the same time (importer in Spain). It does go wrong occasionally, but still very worthwhile from their point of view. It disgusts me.

  75. 1 GBP = 1.23323 USD(Middle market price at the moment)
    Panic a few days ago when it was allegedly below 1.20 and collapsing.
    Interesting.

    1. And rewarding for contrarians like myself who bovvered to short (all the way down from $1.24) the USD against the GBP during the recent foldirol.

      1. I’m upset. I sold a few postcards on eBay U.S. site and have $1000 in my Paypal account, losing value by the minute. I’ve been praying for a crash.

          1. Nay, lad. I don’t have those. And they wouldn’t sell in the States. That lot have no sense of humour. They can’t even spell it.

  76. Immigration status: Ministers reverse May-era student visa rules

    This opens the door way off getting into the UK. They come here to study and should return home after completing their studies. They should not be able to queue jump getting into the UK

    WE have enough of our own students that have trouble finding jobs

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49655719

    2. When is World Cross Day? Wear a cross to find out what it feels like to be a Christian (ie, persecuted).

  78. Chaos is being normalised. It is all part of Boris Johnson’s pernicious plan. Paul Mason. Wed 11 Sep 2019.

    The transparent aim of Johnson is to create a chaotic situation, in which decent people become too frightened by fascists and football hooligans to protest; in which the progressive majority of voters are otherised as “luvvies, climate loons and traitors” – a darkest hour in which, though he created the darkness, he eventually gets to switch on the lights.

    Here’s the Left with the smell of Revolution in its nostrils!

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/11/chaos-normalised-boris-johnson-pernicious-plan-democracy

      1. Yes I have to weave my way around all the fascists on my way to the Supermarket and I can’t count the number of times I’ve been waylaid by football hooligans! Lol!

    3. Chaos is natural. It’s how the world works. But looked at over a long period of time, all the chaos does produce a form of identifiable order. Patterns will appear out of the chaos. And this is finding order in the chaos.

      Nietzsche

    5. Paul Mason is either:
      (a) a nasty left-wing thug in the mould of McDonnell
      (b) a pussy who would run a mile if faced with an intelligent argument.

      Given his performance on Newsnight recently, his “We’re effing coming for you, Boris” video and his rantings at the Manchester demo, I’d say the answer is obvious.

  79. Hello, these type of characters ‘đ ğ ś ñ ‘ I can get on the Samsung
    touch screen but when I get my laptop with keyboard
    I don’t think the such will be possible. Is there a way of
    obtaining such letters as I’ll need them for foreign correspondence.

    1. Is it a proper laptop or an Apple device? On a windows laptop, AltGr plus the character will usually get the accent right.

      1. Thank you Mr Viking, I shall bookmark this one too,
        I am sure I’ll get into a pickle to start with .
        John Lewis have informed me that my laptop
        Is now in stock even if it’s £ 100 more expensive then
        two weeks ago !

    2. Such a lenient sentence perhaps suggests he’s going undercover to inform on imprisoned radicals. I do hope they don’t get to find out otherwise he could be in for a difficult 15 weeks…..

    1. Golly Gosh.
      Wasn’t life sooooo dull?
      Little chance of being stabbed, smashed over the head with a rounders bat, run down by a Morris Oxford or being blown up at a concert, let alone being shot during those halcyon days when legally owning a pistol was still allowed.
      On the plus side, we don’t feed pigeons because they are nasty creatures that spread diseases.

      1. I remember there was sometimes a jovial scuffle when the rounders teams were chosen at junior school.

        1. M,
          There would be more than a scuffle currently when the men’s rugger team clash with similar frocks.

      2. The UN Global compact for migration will still exist post Brexit. Hence the need to achieve Brexit before we have any hope of tackling the Globalists on it and the affects of it on the UK. The UK breaking free from the Globalists EU political project will represent a major setback for the Globalists as well as encouraging other nations to kick back against Globalism.

        1. If the brexit group won every seat in the house
          post brexit you could still have mass uncontrolled immigration for the simple reason the brexit group comprises of, in the main unhappy lab / tory voters who for decades have been condoning mass uncontrolled immigration via the ballot booth.

          1. Nope, it’s the Globalists driving the migration agenda via The UN Global compact for migration. there’s very little Westminster can do about it until independence from the Globalist controlled EU ( Brexit ) is secured. even then it isn’t going to be a ‘walk in the park’.

          2. You DO NOT support / vote for parties that has mass uncontrolled immigration / mass paedophilia issues ongoing, year on year, overseeing mass knifing, acid scarring etc ongoing.
            These odious actions are in point of fact down to inadequate law enforcement due to governing parties not fit for purpose.
            These parties are continuing to be returned to power via the ballot booth and in the name of the supporter / voters.
            The ones you keep repeating are “brainwashed”

          3. Even had voters not been brainwashed into providing the Globalists with ‘manufactured consent’, the Globalist dictators would be enacting the UN Global compact for migration anyway. This is not a unique to the UK imposition, the Globalists are in fact, enacting their agenda, Globally. Your ‘victim blaming’ only serves to deflect attention from the Globalists evil activity.

          4. But according to you the voters had been brainwashed again,again & again, as your post show.
            Seemingly then they have no idea what they are voting for in reality, is that what you keep repeating ?

          5. Yes, brainwashed into providing the Globalists with the ‘manufactured consent’ which they then make the duplicitous claim that it was voted for ‘democratically’. Notwithstanding that the personnel making up the electorate is subject to continuous change.

      1. A Dame usually plays Dick in the panto…… and any old Tom, Dick or Harry can play the Dame…..

    1. Until I read the article I sincerely, honestly hoped someone had lamped him one.

      I know it’s wrong. I know it’s how they behave but just once… for someone to make them feel how they’ve been treating us for twenty five miserable years…

  85. Afternoon all. Democrat chuckle …

    A CNN REPORTER WALKS INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD TAVERN AND IS ABOUT TO ORDER A DRINK WHEN HE SEES A GUY AT THE END OF THE BAR WEARING A “MAKE AMERICAGREAT AGAIN” HAT. IT DIDN’T TAKE AN EINSTEIN TO KNOW THE GUY WAS A DONALD TRUMP SUPPORTER.

    THE CNN GUY SHOUTS OVER TO THE BARTENDER, LOUDLY ENOUGH THAT EVERYONE IN THE BAR COULD HEAR, “DRINKS FOR EVERYONE IN HERE, BARTENDER, EXCEPT FOR THAT TRUMP SUPPORTER.”

    AFTER THE DRINKS WERE HANDED OUT THE TRUMP GUY GIVES THE CNN GUY A BIG SMILE, WAVES AT HIM AND SAYS, IN AN EQUALLY LOUD VOICE, “THANK YOU!”

    THIS INFURIATES THE CNN REPORTER. SO HE ONCE AGAIN LOUDLY ORDERS DRINKS FOR EVERYONE EXCEPT THE GUY WEARING THE TRUMP HAT. AS BEFORE, THIS DOESN’T SEEM TO BOTHER THE TRUMP GUY. HE JUST CONTINUES TO SMILE AND AGAIN YELLS, “THANK YOU!”

    SO THE CNN GUY AGAIN LOUDLY ORDERS DRINKS FOR EVERYONE EXCEPT THE TRUMP GUY. AND AGAIN THE TRUMP GUY JUST SMILES AND YELLS BACK, “THANK YOU!”

    AT THAT POINT THE AGGRAVATED CNN REPORTER ASKS THE BARTENDER, “WHAT THE HELL IS THE MATTER WITH THAT TRUMP SUPPORTER? I’VE ORDERED THREE ROUNDS OF DRINKS FOR EVERYONE IN THE BAR BUT HIM AND ALL THE SILLY ASS DOES IS SMILE AND THANK ME. IS HE NUTS?”

    “NOPE,” REPLIES THE BARTENDER. “HE OWNS THE PLACE.

          1. Same thing. These terms vary according to how much work the departmental bureaucrats’ letter head printing relatives need.

  89. Proof that the PM doesn’t believe in Brexit?
    If this report from the Beeb is accurate….
    “Boris Johnson will not make an election pact with Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage, Downing Street has said.
    Mr Farage said his party and the Conservatives should make a deal and “together we would be unstoppable”.
    Two newspaper adverts set out his offer to help “secure a big Brexit majority” and to “destroy Corbyn’s Labour”.
    But a senior Conservative source said Mr Farage was “not a fit and proper person” and “should never be allowed anywhere near government”.
    Mr Farage tweeted the remarks “look like comments from deep inside the bunker”, adding: “I do not want a job in government. I just want to put country before party and deliver a clean break Brexit.”

    2. Nigel wants the conservatives not to stand in Labour constituencies where the conservatives have no chance of winning. Nigel will not stand against obvious Leave conservatives [ I suspect] If Boris doesn’t have a pact with the Brexit Party and loses he deserves all that is coming to him and his party.

      1. How do you convince 60 or 100 Conservative MPs not to stand in the next GE for the sake of a clean Brexit? Do you think we have that many patriotic MPs?

      2. The oft-repeated mantra is about damage to the Tory party. The reality is, the facts are incontrovertible, that the Tory party has betrayed its members, those who voted for it, and the whole country. Why should anyone care what happens to the Tory party?
        Our care, our worry, our focus should be on the future of this country, and only on the future of this country as a free, independent sovereign nation once again.

    1. BTL Comment:

      If any MP’s are looking at this please read, re-read, then print out and stick on your wall the above statement.

      There are millions of us loyal Tory voters who are exasperated by the rank stupidity, duplicity and ineffectiveness of the last Tory Remainer administration.

      We are only giving you one more chance because of Boris. If we don’t properly Brexit on October 31st (or immediately after if there is some genuine technical reasons why we couldn’t) or we are stitched up once again, or the backstop is removed but the rest of the WA in its entirety is approved then bye bye tory party. You are toast.

      No more chances. No more making allowances. No more putting up with it because of the alternative. You have had three years and have behaved shamefully in what we can only see as a deliberate attempt to side-line brexit. You have been warned. This is your final chance as we won’t stand for being humiliated and lied to any longer.

  92. Rather peeved with John Lewis, the laptop I ordered 2 weeks ago
    Is now in stock but it’s £ 100 more expensive then it was prior
    the order. Not a huge increase but it’s the principle and a cheek .

    1. If you haven’t already done so have a word with customer services they may honour the earlier price.

    2. The price should be the price in force at the time you made the contract.

      Just mention the Sale of Goods Act 1979 (and its recent updates…) I’d send you a copy of my book were I in the UK…..

      2. Sale of Good act no longer appliers it is the Consumer Right Act 2015

        A lot hinges on whether an actual contract was formed and or a price was agreed

      1. I wonder if in 50 years time there will be events that will be termed as BB and AB, as in BC and AD.
        Or am I cursing our chances like the TMS commentators can do with batsmen.

    4. Search the net for the same item elsewhere a the lower (or even lower) price and hit them with their ‘never knowingly umdersold’ thing. Or, as BT suggests, if you placed a firm order then the price is the one prevailing when they accepted the order.

    5. I should imagine that if there isn’t a contract, you’ve as much right to walk away as they have of increasing the price.

      If you do walk away, try Argos.

    6. Need to read the fine print of their T&C’s if they had accepted the order at a price they should keep to it but I suspect in the fine print there is a get out

      Under the Consumer Right Act 2015 Key terms should be clearly spelt out and should not be in the fine print. I would say change the price would be a key term as it could affect your buying decision

    7. If they don’t let you have it for the original price, tell them where they can stuff it. There is a competitive market.

    4. What are the odds that one of the perpetually offended will complain on behalf of the heightially challenged and three junior doctor’s careers are terminated?

      1-10 on?

  94. That’s me for this lovely day. The sight of the yachts was really uplifting. More tomorrow.

    We go to Ventimiglia market (again) for supplies to take back to Laure on Sunday.

    Have a nice evening slagging off yer Scots judges. A demain.

  96. If Mr Dubose’s film is as rambling as his writing then I suspect many viewers might have fallen asleep or left before the end. Nevertheless, he makes the same observations as Enri d’Aith does elsewhere about the dangers of splitting the Leave vote.

    Here is how Nigel Farage can avoid being the Brexit Icarus and see us fly out of the EU to freedom

    HUNTER DUBOSE

    As Greek legend tells it, in a bid to regain his freedom and escape the dominion of a foreign land, Icarus took to the sky, borne aloft by hand-made wings fashioned from wood, feathers and wax. But, enticed by the golden glow of the sun, Icarus flew too high. The sun’s heat melted the wax that secured the feathers to his wings. Icarus plummeted into the sea. He drowned in his own tragedy.

    It is a morality tale that Nigel Farage would do well to heed.

    To remain relevant now that Boris Johnson has firmly re-positioned the Conservatives as a party of “Leave, deal or no deal, come what may”, Farage must now pivot to become both a Brexit kingmaker – by not contesting safe and marginal Tory seats at the next general election – and a Brexit enforcer – maintaining maximum pressure to ensure that Boris keeps to his word on Brexit. The Brexit Party simply lacks sufficient campaign resources – deep-pocketed donors, experienced ground troops, extensive databases – to successfully compete head-to-head with Boris for pro-Leave Tory voters.

    But will the hubris of power and the siren song of his own potential tenancy in 10 Downing Street get the better of Farage?

    His ill-considered commitment to a comprehensive election manifesto will divide both his Brexit Party and the electorate. And it sends a decidedly unhelpful signal that he has his sights on a domestic policy agenda and premiership that extends well beyond delivering Brexit.

    If he continues down this path, Farage risks becoming a Brexit spoiler, splitting the pro-Brexit vote and becoming an insufficient threat in the polls to ensure that Boris stays on course to deliver a Brexit that actually lives up to the 2016 referendum promise to “take back control”.

    But, Farage needs literally only three manifesto pledges in order to keep Boris honest on delivering a proper Brexit and, if Boris fails to do so, to lead the Brexit Party to a resounding majority at the next general election:

    Deliver a Brexit on WTO terms immediately after winning an election.

    A caretaker government on all other matters.

    Call a general election immediately after the UK leaves the EU so that the people can vote for any party and full policy package that they desire for post-Brexit Britain.

    Let’s call this the Daedalus Manifesto. Daedalus was Icarus’s father, who built the wings upon which Icarus sought to fly to freedom. He also cautioned Icarus to resist the temptation to soar too close to the sun.

    The Daedalus Manifesto is a simple and effective cure for the twin-pillars of the Brexit Party’s inherent existential dilemma.

    The first of those two pillars is that, no matter how much the people might desire Brexit, they simply don’t trust a single-issue party – one with experience neither in government nor even in opposition – to manage critical domestic and foreign affairs such as the NHS, education, crime and national security.

    The lessons of the 2014 and 2019 Euro elections make this crystal clear. The British people care strongly-enough about leaving the EU that they were willing to hand, first, Ukip and, later, the Brexit Party the greatest share of the UK’s allocation of seats within the EU parliament. Of course, Ukip were and the Brexit Party are fundamentally powerless to actually do anything substantive about Brexit from within the EU parliament; only the UK parliament has that power. So, these were symbolic, pro-Brexit protest votes more than anything else.

    However, the failure of Ukip to win even a single seat in Westminster during the 2015 and 2017 general elections and of the Brexit Party to win the recent by-elections in Leave-voting Peterborough and Brecon & Radnorshire following their Euro election success in May reveals that the electorate’s desire for a reliable and proven party at the helm of the British government eclipses its yearning for the UK to leave the EU.

    The second of those two pillars is that support for Brexit cuts across the traditional partisan and ideological divide of left versus right. Forging a comprehensive policy prescription that would keep both sides content is nigh on impossible.

    Just look at two of the Brexit Party’s current MEPs: Claire Fox and Ann Widdecombe.

    For 20 years, Fox was one of the chief activists and organisers of the Revolutionary Communist Party. During that time, she was co-publisher of its magazine, Living Marxism. Fox was also kind enough to feature in Brexit: The Movie, which I produced.

    Widdecombe is an arch-conservative and former Tory minister and Shadow Home Secretary. She has been outspoken in her opposition to abortion and LGBT rights and in her support for the death penalty.

    Fox and Widdecombe are united by their common desire to see the UK, once again, an independent, democractic, self-governing nation. But, beyond Brexit, Widdecombe is the ideological chalk to Fox’s cheese. Good luck on getting them to come even remotely close to agreeing on what the right policies should be for taxation, social housing, NHS reform, education funding, labour rights and a whole host of other topics.

    And it would require less spin to make the Earth teeter off its axis than it would for the Brexit Party to successfully sell the same set of policies to voters in Labour Leave strongholds such as Durham and Bolton as to voters in pro-Brexit, Tory heartland regions such as East Anglia and the West Midlands.

    Farage has almost-certainly already realised this dilemma.

    Calling it a “contract” rather than a “manifesto”, Farage promised during multiple press interviews in April 2019 that a full package of policies would be announced by the Brexit Party after the Euro elections in May.

    He then revealed a smattering of random ideas on 1st July at Brexit Party rally in Birmingham. Cancel HS2. Zero interest student loans. Eliminate high street business rates outside of the M25. Free WiFi on public transport. He told the 5,000 adulatory supporters in attendance to expect a snap election in the autumn and told them that the Brexit Party would be ready to fight it.

    This was followed by deafening silence on manifesto ideas for over two months until the Brexit Party announced a solitary additional policy on 8th September: abolish inheritance tax. Beyond that, the party has stated no positions at all about the economy, crime, health, education, defence, or any other key area of policy.

    With the prospect rapidly looming of a general election sometime this autumn, one can’t help but wonder whether Nigel Farage is struggling to conjure-up a singular message that could unite Brexiteers, one-and-all.

    Without a cogent and universal message for national governance and with Boris’s Conservatives now crowding them out of the pro-Leave electoral positioning they once monopolised, it is no surprise that the Brexit Party has experienced a precipitous decline in the polling for Westminster voting intentions. They have dropped from a peak of 20% in June to just over 12% today, according to polling aggregator, Britain Elects.

    With each percentage point reduction in the polls, Farage’s mantle of Brexit enforcer has become increasingly anaemic. If Boris Johnson does not fear losing votes to Farage’s Brexit Party, then there is nothing to keep him from going back on his word to vanquish the much-loathed Backstop from the Withdrawal Agreement or delivering some other form of Brexit-in-name-only.

    If the Brexit Party continues to fare so poorly in the national polls, it is all-but-inevitable that they will seek to cling on to relevance by fielding candidates in every constituency in order to maximise their national vote share, rather than leaving safe and marginal Tory seats to the Tories. This, of course, would split the Brexit vote and open the door for Remain-supporting Labour or LibDem candidates to win, even in heavily Leave-supporting constituencies.

    And, so, we might well end up with a “Brexit” that surrenders more control than it takes back.

    We might end up with no Brexit at all.

    The Daedalus Manifesto solves all of this. It makes a clear, simple, compelling proposition to all pro-Brexit voters across the left/right political spectrum:

    We will make Brexit happen immediately, we won’t stay in power for any longer than is absolutely necessary to deliver Brexit, we won’t try to tinker with any other policy while we are in power, and you can pick whichever political party you want to run the government as soon as our job is done.

    The Daedalus Manifesto is also remarkably in-tune with the national mood music. After over three years of parliament dithering, endlessly, over Brexit, the British people are absolutely fed-up with it all. They want Brexit to be done, so that we can all just move on.

    They have also lost virtually all faith and trust in the establishment political class, as a result. And, so, voters are likely to resonate strongly with a Brexit Party manifesto that promises to relinquish control at the earliest opportunity rather than try to clutch hold of power, endlessly, like incumbent political parties would be expected to.

    The flip-side of this is that a Brexit Party manifesto with any policies in addition to the three set-out in the Daedalus Manifesto serves no useful purpose at all. Unless, of course, Farage envisions himself lingering in office well-after Brexit is done and dusted. The significance of this would not be lost on the nation’s exasperated electorate.

    This, then, is Nigel Farage’s Icarus moment.

    Will he fly to freedom by casting aside lofty personal ambition to ensure that Brexit happens and happens properly? Or will the temptation of an extended residence in Downing Street lure him too close to the vainglorious sun, only for him to crash into the sea, dragging the nation’s Brexit aspirations down with him?

    The election manifesto he chooses will tell us all we need to know.

    Hunter DuBose was the producer of ‘Brexit: The Movie’, a crowd-funded, pro-Leave documentary that had its gala premiere at Odeon Leicester Square six weeks before the EU referendum and has been watched almost 4 million times. He also runs Spitfire Capital Advisors, a corporate finance advisory firm based in Mayfair.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/09/11/nigel-farage-brexit-icarus-can-see-us-fly-eu-freedom/

    1. I didn’t have time to read all of that as I am off out now for a windy and possibly wet stroll on the beach. But there is clearly one thing wrong with the article as far as I read into it. That is the assumption that Boris is now the figure of “Leave” and will take us out of the EU on WTO rules. This situation casts Mr Farage as taking votes from the Conservatives (which is a sad song that we have heard so many times from Remainers on TV shows who want us to stay. It is almost as if those in the Labour party are scared of The Brexit Party… I wonder why?)

      If Boris brings back Theresa May’s Withdrawal Agreement (without the backstop) and tries to pretend that this means Leaving the European Union, then the reality will be that the Conservatives will be taking votes away from The Brexit Party. I know that a small few here are lost in the past when it comes to voting realities these days, but this election will be about Leaving the EU or staying in it. The Withdrawal Agreement is staying in, in a far worse position than we are now.

      Whatever Farage says, I don’t believe that he will seriously target real Leavers such as Redwood, Patel, Raab or Rees-Mogg. Their jobs will be safe. He certainly should target those Conservative and Labour MP’s who want to sell us out to Europe. But we will know whether Boris is hero or villain quite shortly now. We can rebuild a real Conservative party out of Redwoods if need be after we have left the EU. The country could do with some real Conservatives again.

      Off to the beach now. Have a good afternoon. 🙂

      1. It is a rambling piece, as I observed at the start. However, its fundamental question is the correct one: what tactics should the Brexit Party employ at a GE to ensure that we leave the EU?

        1. I heard the “ping” of a reply just as I was going out. 🙂

          Sorry – I could have been clearer. If Boris does take us out the way that we all want on to a WTO Brexit, then an agreement with The Brexit Party not to stand in Labour seats where the Conservatives have no chance but TBP might win is an obviously a good strategy that will help our nation. The fewer Remain MP’s the better.

          But If Boris tries / or succeeds to get that abomination of a Withdrawal Agreement though, and traps us in the EU with it, then The Brexit Party should target all of the Conservative Remainer MP’s. From many of the Conservatives that I have spoken with (and I was a lifetime Conservative voter as well) we will not support those MP’s who are trying to keep us trapped under EU control with our borders open.

          This is the fate of our country that is at stake now, and if Boris turns out to be another Theresa May working for the EU, then we will vote for the Brexit Party. Unless we have a Rees-Mogg or a Redwood as our local Conservative. There, now I’m off. 🙂

          1. Mr Dubose argues that some Labour voters keen to leave will nevertheless not vote for a party led by a man they still regard as a Tory.

          2. They should then vote UKIP as we have policies from left and right. Support for UKIP has traditionally been strong in Labour voting wards.

  97. NHS secretary is mistakenly charged £56,000 for £169 romantic weekend in Budapest – but Barclays refuses to help leaving her paralyses with debt

    I dont see how Barclays can wriggle out of this. They key thing here is it is a DEBIT card and not a Credit card so unless she had £56K credit on the card the transaction should never have been approved. I suspect she has been dealing with some call center minion. Take it to their formal complaints process any charges should then be put on hold

    1. The issue is the £3,000 in currency exchange charges. The hotel refunded the £56,000 as soon as the clerk realised their mistake. My question is whether the £3,000 included the charges on the refund as well?

    1. ”
      The size of the award Miss Macken will receive has yet to be determined”
      I think she has won her case but the amount she will get has not been decided yet.
      She may only get £3 million for being called a witch.

        1. I think the very rich at one time were slandering each other , at different times, to claim compensation off each other’s insurance

      2. Indeed, but I’m sure most lady Nottlers would happily be called witches to get millions for hurt feelings.

        OK Girls go sue Geoff! He runs the site, we lads are mere employees

    2. Ah well, Sos, at least we may derive some pleasure from the fact that the bank against which the award will be made, BNP Paribas, is a French bank and the biggest bank in the Eurozone. Amongst its shareholders are the Belgian State and the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg.

      Haircut Git and Juncker won’t like that!

  102. Remainers are confirming Leave voters’ worst fears by trying to litigate Brexit to death. 11 SEPTEMBER 2019.

    Remainers have been waging legal warfare on every front possible. After being told by the High Court of England and Wales that Boris Johnson’s prorogation was lawful, they have had a breakthrough in Scotland thanks to the Court of Session ruling that the proroguing was “unlawful” due to its “improper purpose of stymying Parliament”.

    TOP COMMENT BELOW THE LINE

    Sarah Anderssen 11 Sep 2019 12:52PM.

    I think they will drive our country towards civil war before they are finished, because they just won’t accept any of the other means.
    They won’t accept the democratic result of the referendum.
    They won’t hold an election.
    They won’t accept court judgments that don’t go their way.
    They won’t accept the executive’s place in our constitutional arrangements.
    There is very little left the people can do against these fanatics.

    This lady may well be right!

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/09/11/remainers-confirming-leave-voters-worst-fears-trying-litigate/

      2. Well.. yes, of course we do but ‘inadvertently’.

        The people funding the legal challenges (and I’m going to say Soros, but there are plenty of others) make a lot of money from the EU which we fund. Should we stop funding the EU, these organisations stand to lose an awful lot of money – simply put the EU cannot continue without our cash.

        Thus these people, through a string of tax payer and EU funding fronts are prepared to spend a few million to guarantee future billions. It’s pure greed. Nothing but. Do you think they’d bother for soemthing as irrelevant as ideology?

    2. I think Andrew Neil has lost it. His interview of Kwasi Kwarteng (sp?) was appalling. Lots of “what if” questions and he constantly interrupted. He has morphed into a proper Bbc interviewer. I won’t be watching him again!

      2. He spends far too much time in France. I have always thought he was good but not that good.He is past it.

    1. I have to leave notes for myself and also check the wallplanner daily. I put it down to the bottle.

      1. I often go to the fridge and then wonder why I went there but I’m not so far gone as to think my car keys will be lurking somewhere inside.😎

      1. His argument appears to be “Britain has it’s own murdering & raping scumbags so we must be prepared to admit murdering & raping scumbags as immigrants and allow them to “become” British”.

          1. …and what do they look like? A big’Terrorist’ brand on their foreheads.

            Pelosi, you and those of your ilk, are the fifth columnists of the Western World.

        2. Ask him how many he wants, 50k, 500k, 5 million, 50 million, because that’s how many such creatures would be delighted to come to Britain.

          Then ask him if he’s stockpiled plenty of KYJ and anusol for his pleasure.and theirs.

          You might be banned.

    2. Ask him why it’s racist to question a cultural practice, murder, that isn’t acceptable in civilised countries.

      1. Would be nice if you, or someone else could put that up.
        Someone, not of NoTTL, has already waded in to support me!

        1. Apologies, BoB, I only Nottle and other disqus bits.

          I salute your efforts, but I really can’t be bothered with the twittersphere.

          1. I find it entertaining.
            I do not expect to influence the people I’m arguing with, but it gives me a chance to sharpen my ideas.
            One thing I try not to do is descend into ad hominem attacks.

    3. If I tell you, Martin S Ross, that I cannot stand you because you are a twat, does that make me a twattist?

  112. Good Afternoon all, I’ve just made the mistake of commenting on an anti-Brexit rant in Face ache by my nephew, an intelligent lad with a degree in metallurgy , the rant was full of the usual left wing venom and bile , my comment questioned various aspects of the EU, the parasitic bureaucracy , the Strasbourg Shuffle , corruption, unelected President and the nascent EU Army etc , his measured and cogent reply was :–

    “if those were your concerns about the EU, then I struggle to see how they outweigh the genuine benefits of EU membership. Seriously.
    Besides- it was never about any of those things, it was all to keep Rees-Mogg from having to pay tax on his off-shore accounts.”

    So there you are then, Rees-Mogg is the problem

    3. Mark 3:25 If a house is divided against itself, it cannot stand.

      The country is divided. Families disagree over this issue (mine included). Democracy only works if the people who have been outvoted accept the majority decision. That isn’t happening.

    5. Did your nephew list those genuine benefits of EU membership? If he has a list could he contact John Redwood via the latter’s Diary as Sir John has twice this week asked the Remainers who comment on his Diary to put together their reasons for remaining. He hasn’t had much of a response, even after prompting them with ideas.

      1. Bewilderingly my nephew is hard left and blames all the world’s woes on “Thatcher” and “The Tories” and as with all rabid remainers his arguments are based on how stupid leavers are, even my ardent EU lover tory b.in.L who has a first in Law and was a chartered accountant obfuscates and waves his hands about and mutters about beneficial trade arrangements and homogenisation and tax laws.

        1. True, but an inability to see the obvious rather suggests that in his case there is a distinct lack of either.

      2. Watching Love Island like my Niece
        TBF they have busy lives working and raising their children but they are buying the MSM crap wholesale

        1. If it’s on the News they presume it to be accurate, and with no spin.

          They are not old enough to have seen simple reporting of the facts without a commentary.

  114. Well even if your parliament is paralyzed, Canada is having a general election at the end of October.

    That was the easy part, now we have to decide between three bumbling party leaders and another two no hopers. Luckily our equivalent to the screaming lord sutch party will provide entertaining proposals.

    1. That was good. There are 2 particularly DELICIOUS moments at 46 and 56 seconds where some of the Remainers in the audience clearly do not think that it is funny. But that type never find anything really funny. Unless it has been pre-approved by the thought police. Poor things.

  116. Afternoon all. I see that the Scottish activist judges are up to their tricks. The sole question that should trouble them is ‘Is it lawful for a Prime Minister to prorogue Parliament?’ Questioning why he chose to do this and then judging whether that was the correct course of action is to stray into nakedly political territory. I hope it is struck out along with Gina Miller’s appeal on the 17th. Judge’s role is to decide what is or isn’t legal. but like Bercow they cannot help but stray into political judgements:

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/09/11/supreme-court-would-wise-accept-prorogation-political-judges/

    2. They are also straying into the role of the Monarchy. I cannot see the Queen being interrogated by the Scottish police as to what Boris discussed with her.

      1. The way things are going, why not ? We won’t have a Queen anyway, after the Remainers win. We will be a puppet state of the EU.

    3. Scottish courts have no real jurisdiction in England and in any case The Supreme court has ruled it is legal, So unless a Supreme court decision can be appealed that’s it
      Ignore what the BBC and Guardian might claim

    4. Small bells attached to the uniforms of advanced scouting units like the ones you put on a cat’s collar. Maybe a rotating red light on a sniper’s helmet.

    6. General Sir Nick Carter makes a good point regarding cyber-attacks and other such methods, which are often used in an undeclared war, but we must never allow ourselves to be distracted and weaken our conventional Armed Forces. If we do, then the enemy will at least have partially succeeded in his aim.

      Of course we should keep up to speed with the very latest developments in cyber-warfare and its countermeasures but we must also expand our capability to wage conventional war as, in my experience, when push comes to shove, nothing is quite so efficacious as the good old double-tap.
      ;¬))

      1. The problem of course, is that we must (ie it is compulsory ) to have Pride in our Armed Forces,

        plus of course

        the superiorority of the females,

        no Wasps
        and no enemy can be harmed

    1. What about the rest of the legal Opinion obtained by May’s government on the WA? Still no sign.

      1. Very late on parade tonight, Philip, but a big public thank you for the book you sent. It is much appreciated.

      1. Lunch was superb – & on the house.

        Champagne, mussels, a whole lemon sole, with a glass of Picpoul, profiteroles filled with vanilla ice cream & covered in chocolate sauce, with a glass of Barsac, finally a flat white.

        In the evening a friend came round & we polished off a bottle of Prosecco.

        1. A bit of what you fancy does you good , sometimes .

          Your choice of menu must have been delicious.

          We ate prawn and white fish fish cakes , with a Thai spice flavour, tasty yes, and a side salad and and afterwards , strawberry trifle ( Waitrose) Sometimes I could do with a drink, but as a couple we very rarely drink these days .

          1. This is what I cooked tonight (from Tom’s Simple Cook Book):

            Creamy Pork Loin Slices (or Chicken) with Spinach & Peppers

            Ingredients
            400 grams Sliced Pork loin or chicken pieces (breast/thigh)
            300 grams Steamed Spinach
            250 grams waxy potatoes (e.g., Charlotte) – optional
            300 millilitres Chicken Stock (a can of Baxter’s Cream of Chicken Soup may be substituted)
            100 grams Crème Fraiche
            100 grams Sliced Red or Green Peppers
            100 grams Sliced Mushrooms
            A pinch of Chilli Flakes
            Salt & Ground Black Pepper – to taste
            Olive Oil

            Method
            1. In a deep pan or ovenproof casserole, heat the olive oil and hot fry the pork until lightly browned on both sides. (If excess liquid is detected, remove the pork and drain the excess).
            2.Reduce the heat and add the chicken stock (soup)
            3. Season with salt, pepper and chilli flakes
            4. Add the spinach and potatoes (if used)
            5. Bring it all to a fast simmer
            6. Add the peppers and mushroom, stir in the crème fraiche
            7. Reduce the heat to low, cover the pan and leave for 30 minutes.

            No extra vegetables are required but a chilled Cabernet Sauvignon might help. Try it and enjoy it.

        2. Good morning ,
          I cannot get to the site or view any comments,
          I can only respond to a few with open accounts
          such as you . Don’t know whether it’s disqus
          or my Samsung tablet

  126. Have felt overwhelmed with the very real threat now of over 470 homes possibly being built in a field next to us and elsewhere in the village .

    We have witnessed probably the last roll of the the combine harvester , and no more sowing, probably will continue to be grazed in the winter .. and then who knows .

    The thought of the hounding of Boris, the evil machinations of the Labour and Liberal party are making me feel quite ill, and now the concreting of Dorset .. some 20,000 homes planned is too much to bear .

    What other news is being buried , and what is being hidden from us..

    Are 300,000 migrants still getting into the UK annually or are there more than we think?

    The country is ruined . Even the murders in our big cities don’t get a mention these days .

    1. It is only the chav rent-a-mob that do riots in this country.
      The best we can manage is ” curses not loud but deep ”
      Whatever happens there is little chance of a viable government, left right or centre.
      And who will run the show if Brexit does go through. Who has the charisma to do it ?

      1. The only answer is to privatise the Government and contract it out to, say, the Singapore Government. Actually, apart from the Singapore Government, I am struggling to think of any other Government that is much better than our own.

      2. I think the ‘Left’ could do a good riot impersonation as they’re more inclined to hysteria. I will be very very peeved if we don’t leave ‘properly’.

    2. Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn said the paper confirmed the PM “is prepared to punish those who can least afford it”.

      I despair…

      The Remainers are close to succeeding in their campaign to panic the nation into staying in.

  128. HAPPY HOUR – Childhood memories…
    My childhood was bliss until my parents split up, then my world fell apart…
    I was ten and don’t think I ever fully recovered.
    When slicing runner beans this afternoon for my supper I was reminded of happier days preparing Sunday lunch.
    My father had an allotment so fresh vegetables were always available and I spent many a happy hour slicing runner beans
    as thinly as possible for our lunch. Scarlet Emperor was a popular variety, still avaiable today.
    Of course the washing up was always the dreaded chore which was left to my brother and me……

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b233ba8ba630e56c63eb9b9c46e5d88befa418511534d3f3940896bb3c624939.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b233ba8ba630e56c63eb9b9c46e5d88befa418511534d3f3940896bb3c624939.jpg

    1. Always best to accidentally drop the odd plate or two, act shocked and scared. Gets you out of washing up duty quite quickly.

      1. Life can be a real bitch sometimes…… but hey what doesn’t break you makes you stronger. (I think)!

    1. I too would be delighted, because it would mean the automatic repeal of the European Communities Act 1972.

      Oh frabious joy and Deutschland in dem scheiße

  131. J’aime La belle France…

    From Le Beeb

    “A French company has been found liable for the death of an employee who had a cardiac arrest while having sex with a stranger on a business trip.
    A Paris court ruled that his death was an industrial accident and that the family was entitled to compensation.
    The firm had argued the man was not carrying out professional duties when he joined a guest in her hotel room.
    But under French law an employer is responsible for any accident occurring during a business trip, judges said.
    The man, named as Xavier X, was working as an engineer for TSO, a railway services company based near Paris.
    He died at a hotel during a trip to central France in 2013, as a result of what the employer called “an extramarital relationship with a perfect stranger”.

    I suspect either he or she was going like a train…..

    2. For Heaven’s sake.
      Don’t let BT’s MR see this.

      HG has just said:
      “Off you go then”
      And I’m not even employed,

    3. An accident? Choosing to hook up with a partner for intercourse is hardly an accidental occurrence. The company should plead it was an Act of God – striking down the sinner in his adultery 🙂

      1. Quia scriptum est:

        “Qui autem adulter est propter cordis inopiam perdet animam suam”
        — Prov. 6:32
        ;¬)

  132. Indulge me in a trivial post. I lost my 60+ bus pass on a 52 bus late this evening. Phoned Willesden Bus Garage just after 11 and – they have it!
    Some kind person found it and handed it in! Scuppers my plans for tomorrow evening of course. It takes an hour to get from Shepherd’s Bush to Willesden but it’s my own stupidity. I really don’t deserve to be that lucky.

    1. I lost my wallet once, on a bus, on holiday on the Isles of Scilly. It was in mid-October weeks when lots of rare birds blow in from America (I’m a birdwatcher). The wallet was found by another birdwatcher who handed it in to the only man on the island whom all the birdwatchers know. When I approached this man and told him that I thought he might have my wallet, he grinned at me and asked me to prove my identity. After assuring him who I was I was reunited with my wallet. I gave the finder a nice reward and a big donation to a bird charity nominated by the man who handed my wallet back.

      3. My husband (with his former wife) ran the post office stores on St Agnes in the early 1980s – you may have met him!

        1. I may have done so, Jules, but I can’t remember.

          My overriding memory of St Agnes is sitting on a seat outside the Turk’s Head inn, drinking a pint of Hick’s bitter, eating an utterly delicious dish of home-made pea and ham soup with a hunk of freshly-baked (and still warm) granary bread, whilst gazing over probably the finest sea view from a pub anywhere in the world.

          1. It’s beautiful, isn’t it. He was very homesick after he left, but living and working together 24 hours a day had become intolerable.

    2. Sue,

      Take comfort..

      Some times luck is on our side though, and so glad it is safe and sound .. Sorry you have to retrieve it in an inconvenient location.. Didn’t John Betjeman write a poem about Willesden… You could also use your precious hour penning some verse about your bus pass JB fashion .. Through every adversity lies the seed of greater benefit?

        1. Yo Tony

          An old lady from Willesden Green

          May I fiddle

          A serene, and mature Lady from Willesden Green

          etc

      2. ‘Evening, Mags, the only thing I know about Betjeman was his exhortation for Friendly Bombers to decimate Slough – I’m still waiting.

    3. Sue, the ‘free’ “60+” bus pass has risen to the pensionable age, 65 and a bit, and rising.
      Just occurred to me, are you in London?

  133. How many courts are required to make a decision?

    The Supreme Court would be wise to accept that prorogation is too political for judges

    CLIVE THORNE

    Enoch Powell once admonished that the people should not leave to judges what they themselves can dispose of at the ballot box. The current litigation relating to the legality of the advice to the sovereign to prorogue Parliament is evidence of the wisdom of Powell’s dictum.

    In England, a powerful Divisional Court, including the Lord Chief Justice and Master of the Rolls, has found that the Prime Minister acted lawfully in advising the Sovereign to prorogue. In Scotland, the Inner House or appeal court has overruled the first instance decision of Lord Doherty and decided under Scots law that the advice was motivated by the improper purpose of stymying parliament and that it, and what has followed from it, is unlawful. The court ordered that the prorogation was unlawful and thus null and of no effect. The court’s reasoning has yet to be given.

    In the Outer House, Lord Doherty considered the Scottish Claim of Right of 1689 (well before the Act of Union 1707) which provided that the prerogative power could not be exercised contrary to the laws and liberties of the kingdom and any claim that executive power is unlimited or unfettered was untenable. However, he concluded that the Claim of Right did not specify limitations on prorogation either as to timing or length of time. Accountability for the advice to prorogue is to Parliament and ultimately the electorate.

    There are also equivalent proceedings in Northern Ireland which have been adjourned pending further evidence, by the Lord Chief Justice, Sir Declan Morgan.

    In England, the Divisional Court has trenchantly accepted that although it is now well-established that decisions made pursuant to the exercise of the Royal Prerogative are not immune from judicial review the courts will not review political questions. The Prime Minister’s decision that Parliament should be prorogued at the time and for the duration chosen and the advice given to Her Majesty to do so in the present case were political. They were inherently political in nature and there are no legal standards against which to judge their legitimacy. The decision is at one with political reality.

    Helpfully the Court distinguished that the criteria adopted for identifying non-justiciable exercises of prerogative power are whether they involve matters of “high policy” or are “political”. It accepted the government’s evidence that the Prime Minister’s advice to the Sovereign to prorogue Parliament and given effect by Order in Council was political and therefore non-justiciable.

    The Court also recognised that Parliament may be prorogued for various reasons and that there is no statute, law or any convention which requires Parliament to sit in constant session and not just limited to preparing for the Queen’s Speech. It referred to the precedents that prorogation has been used for “political advantage”; notably by the Labour government of Clement Attlee in 1948 who twice advised George VI to prorogue to enable the passage of what became the Parliament Act 1949 limiting the House of Lords power of delaying legislation to one year.

    The Divisional Court judgment is undoubtedly a welcome boost to the Prime Minister and the government. It also, perhaps, to revert to Powell’s dictum, demonstrates a welcome limitation on the never-ending progress of the judicial review.

    However, almost certainly, all three decisions, are likely to be considered by the Supreme Court as early as 17th September. As previously constituted at the time of the first Gina Miller Article 50 review, the Court appeared to have little difficulty in finding against the government and its exercise of the Royal Prerogative. The Court has recently had an infusion of fresh judicial blood of the highest quality. It may well be that the Court will recognise the judicial limitation of intervening in overtly political matters which should remain for Parliament. It would be wise to do so especially in present political circumstances.

    A jurisprudential conundrum remains as to whether the Court will decide consistently under English, Scots and Northern Irish law and what the consequences of not doing so may be.

    Clive D. Thorne is a city Solicitor and Vice-Chairman of Lawyers for Britain

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/09/11/supreme-court-would-wise-accept-prorogation-political-judges1/

    BTL:
    Boff Doff 11 Sep 2019 7:54PM
    One benefit of the Sweaties judgement is to bring into stark relief the difference between English and Sweaty sock law.

    Up North they follow a more “Code Civile” approach. Not surprising given the “auld alliance”. Hence the judges do what they are told by the politicians.

    There’s a haggis on offer to anyone who can sensibly explain how Parliament has been “stymied” by this prorogation.

    Looking forward to seeing how the Sweaty judge is gonna explain it.

    1. Enoch Powellis’ only remembered because he commented on the first automatic traffic lights in the UK (Wolverhampton) would encourage them to promulgate throughout the Country. And that they were coloured.

    3. About time the Scots were told to butt out until we – the Wesminster Parliament – give them permission to hold another Independence Referendum, although this time it will also be put to the rest of the UK and there will, no doubt, be a large majority telling them to depart and multiply; the rest of us are fed up with your whinging, wailing and sponging of the rest of the UK.

  135. Because I am feeling a little chilly this evening I’ve
    taken myself off to bed with a book and a big cup of
    warm milk with honey and a dash of rum,
    husband pointed out the drink was more suited to
    the winter months when one has a bug,
    not September and just a bit chilly.
    I shan’t do it every night, well I’d leave out the rum and
    just have warm milk, honey and some cinnamon.

  136. Up late trying to get enough wine in the body to sleep well.. Attended a charity community hall meeting discussing newly found assets. I seem to be on a different wavelength to the others who want to invest it safely at 1% interest.They seem to have forgotten that the building was for the use of elderly folk.

  137. ‘I almost regret coming to the UK to study’

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49661085

    This report is about overseas students. Did you know that in 2012 the May creature, as Home Sec, had introduced a rule that forced students to leave after 4 months if they hadn’t found a job? A bit surprising given her record on immigrants (though I doubt if many were forced out anyway). BJ has just changed that rule. They now have two years.

    The report quotes some students who felt hard done by with the original rule. Am I wrong to be less than sympathetic? And why are we providing such a service for the world?

    1. Their disappointment is understandable. But now they can take their success back home and do something for the benefit of the dreadful third-world countries that they come from. It’s a brain drain from india, which is not good. India needs brains. And drains.

      1. Here’s the report on the change:
        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49655719

        Shadow home secretary Diane Abbott said Labour has always said graduates should be able to work here after their studies. “It enables them to contribute to our economy, our universities and to research, and helps us to attract the brightest and best from around the world.”

        It may be Abbott but it could equally have been a Tory. Not so long ago Labour would have said this was a case of the UK plundering the resources of poor countries. I would have agreed with them.

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